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post #1 of 5 Old Oct 12th, 2013, 6:18 am Thread Starter
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If Kia ever produce a motorcycle I'm first in the buyers queue - in nearly 7 years my ( by comparision to BMW ) POS Kia has given absolutely no trouble and only let me down once when the battery died 6 months ago ( battery died ) which cost me R:760 / $:76.00 . I cannot say the same for any of the 5 BMW bikes I have had since 2007
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I have a Kia I bought 10 years ago thinking I was buying a 'disposable' car that would get through a few years with good gas mileage. Over the decade and the 110k miles I can honestly say it has been the most trouble-free vehicle I have ever owned. I have wanted to sell it for years now to get something I want but every time I try I just can't bring myself to do it because I know every time I go to use it, it will perform flawlessly. At this point I can't see why it shouldn't go another decade and 100k (dang it), its stellar reliability has started to make me despise the car because I want something different but feel I am forced to keep a known reliable car rather than gamble.

On the other hand, I don't know if I would buy a Kia motorcycle, comparing the finesse of my 2 BMW's of roughly the same vintage there is a wide gap. The Kia is fully functional but somewhat crude and rough around the edges, it just isn't engineered as well as a whole. It's more like a bunch systems were engineered (well) and then put together with no further fine-tuning. Also it is relatively low-tech compared to my LT, the motor on my Kia is exactly twice the displacement yet only has 40 extra horses, and on a whole it just doesn't feel as precise.

All said, I wouldn't hesitate 1 second to buy a Kia car again, but I view a car as utilitarian. I view a bike as recreation (even though it is my primary transport), and recreation has to engage me, somehow I don't see a two-wheeled Kia doing that.

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I have a Kia I bought 10 years ago thinking I was buying a 'disposable' car that would get through a few years with good gas mileage. Over the decade and the 110k miles I can honestly say it has been the most trouble-free vehicle I have ever owned. I have wanted to sell it for years now to get something I want but every time I try I just can't bring myself to do it because I know every time I go to use it, it will perform flawlessly. At this point I can't see why it shouldn't go another decade and 100k (dang it), its stellar reliability has started to make me despise the car because I want something different but feel I am forced to keep a known reliable car rather than gamble.

On the other hand, I don't know if I would buy a Kia motorcycle, comparing the finesse of my 2 BMW's of roughly the same vintage there is a wide gap. The Kia is fully functional but somewhat crude and rough around the edges, it just isn't engineered as well as a whole. It's more like a bunch systems were engineered (well) and then put together with no further fine-tuning. Also it is relatively low-tech compared to my LT, the motor on my Kia is exactly twice the displacement yet only has 40 extra horses, and on a whole it just doesn't feel as precise.

All said, I wouldn't hesitate 1 second to buy a Kia car again, but I view a car as utilitarian. I view a bike as recreation (even though it is my primary transport), and recreation has to engage me, somehow I don't see a two-wheeled Kia doing that.
Check put the latest Kia's, I think you will be surprised at how far they have come since you bought yours. I traded my 2007 in a few months ago on a new Kia Rio TEC and was impressed with the improvements since 2007 - If Kia can build a totally reliable car like this for the price of a RT why can't BMW get it right with their bikes
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...If Kia can build a totally reliable car like this for the price of a RT why can't BMW get it right with their bikes
You win on that point, I must admit the new Optima looks a whole lot sweeter than my optima, but the sticker is about double what mine was, I'm not completely sure they are as sweet a bargain.

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You win on that point, I must admit the new Optima looks a whole lot sweeter than my optima, but the sticker is about double what mine was, I'm not completely sure they are as sweet a bargain.
Yes the prices have gone up, I paid R:128000 / +- $:12800 for the 2007 and R:183000 / +- $:18300 for the 2013 but still imho best value for money in that size of vehicle
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