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post #1 of 12 Old Apr 28th, 2013, 11:59 am Thread Starter
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If you need to work on two riding techniques what would they be.

As a ridercoach I am curious what y'all experienced and seasoned rider would like to work on your riding technique. Either be hazard avoidance or confidence building.

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post #2 of 12 Old Apr 28th, 2013, 2:23 pm
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Re: If you need to work on two riding techniques what would they be.

General awareness comes first.

You can't avoid it if you don't see it, and the sooner you see it, the more choices you have to avoid it.

Skill to execute a proper avoidance maneuver comes after that.

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Re: If you need to work on two riding techniques what would they be.

Absolutely!

Situational Awareness, head on a swivel, check your surrounding, etc. This is part of the proper mindset but I was more looking into the physical techniques to work on.

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Re: If you need to work on two riding techniques what would they be.

I try not riding at night if I can help it, but sometimes you have to and I really feel less comfortable taking curves in the dark.

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Re: If you need to work on two riding techniques what would they be.

I'm quite comfortable riding at night. Sometimes, all night.

I have excellent lights, awareness, night vision, and reflexes, and most importantly, there are many fewer cars on the road that I have to worry about . . .

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Re: If you need to work on two riding techniques what would they be.

I took Oregon's advanced rider course and enjoyed it quit a bit. There were two things taught at that school that I didn't quite agreed with.
First, with respect to negotiating a curve, they emphasized proper setup and taking the curve exactly the way you anticipate. They emphatically discourage braking, shifting and changing the line once committed. I fully understand their point, but disagree as it's not "real world". Those that I've tried to help, were taught to brake, accelerate and change the line through a curve should they encounter the unexpected - rocks, dead animals, on-coming cars etc. I feel like they're in more control if they have been taught to SMOOTHLY alter speed or direction in a curve.
The other minor disagreement I had, and again I understand why they teach what they do, is the response to a rear wheel lockup. They did not want to explain the lazy S generated by a full rear wheel lockup, but elected to teach a quick release of the brake force. They were concerned that the student would become confused about the physics behind it.

Now, I'm curious how you feel about it?

Disclaimer: for those who caught it, I was repetitious when I said "brake, accelerate", as I could simply have stated "accelerate". And again, I do understand the instructor's intent in what they teach.
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Re: If you need to work on two riding techniques what would they be.

1. Learn to enjoy a slower ride.
2. See #1


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Re: If you need to work on two riding techniques what would they be.

1) Have to agree that working on the situation awareness is the most important. With ALL of the distractions that drivers have we need to be even more aware of the vehicles around us.

2) Figuring out some way to be seen and respected as road using vehicle and not a speed bump.

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SEE - Search Evaluate Execute. A riders instinct is to look right in front of the bike. I compare that style of riding to pushing a lawnmower. Getting riders to train themselves to look farther down the road at the anticipated path of travel. This is especially true on twisties roads. Look as far thru the corner as you can and you will see things before it is too late.

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Look as far thru the corner as you can and you will see things before it is too late.
And that is probably what makes me less confident when I ride in the dark.

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Re: If you need to work on two riding techniques what would they be.

+1 on situational awareness and obstacle avoidance! If I added a third it would be LT specific slow speed maneuvers & parking.

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