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This is a photo of a brand new Harley jacket for sale on craigslist. Read ALL the labels, then you can answer the question.
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Amercian metal gone communist!

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The clothing line is following the bike itself. Over 1/2 of that fine American "Built" bike is "Made" over seas.

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Unfortunately LOTS of stuff is made in China now. Not just HD clothing but some of their m/c parts are made there too...

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Unfortunately LOTS of stuff is made in China now. Not just HD clothing but most of their m/c parts are made there too...

What he said only more accurate!


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Unfortunately LOTS of stuff is made in China now. Not just HD clothing but most of their m/c parts are made there too...

What he said only more accurate!
Shhhhhhhhhhhh !!!! That will upset a lot of HOG's

Some will absolutely argue you to the wall that it is the only 100% "American Made" bike.

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Some will absolutely argue you to the wall that it is the only 100% "American Made" bike.
And they would still be wrong . . .

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It's an argument that I frequently get into, in a world where the main criteria for purchase is cheapcheapcheap and discounted to boot, people are astonished when they find that their cherished possessions are made in China, or made in Taiwan or Pakistan, in short made there where the initial costs are low enough for it to be economical to ship stuff around the globe and not made in USA, (or made anywhere in Europe come to think)
Makes you wonder if the (western) worker is still earning too much money from a economical point of view.

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These labels have been like that for many years. It took a recession and mass unemployment before folks started to notice. Let us not speak out against the free market though, as that would be unpatriotic.
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The irony is not lost on me. I owned a 1984 Plymouth Voyageur; this was Chrysler's major innovation and they touted its American heritage. I remember someone walking up to me and saying, "It's about time Americans started buying American cars!" I opened the hood, the engine was Japanese, the tires were Michelin, the stereo was from Mexico, the whole thing was assembled in Windsor, Ontario. "What part of this car is American?" I asked back.

Another point of view. I know this is going far and away from the OP, but what the heck.

This is nothing new. Every year I would offer my students 100 dollars if anyone of them was wearing 100% American made clothing. I could usually stop 99% of them from checking just by asking them to look at their footwear.

If a top brand of sneakers costs 150 dollars because they're made outside the U.S., what would they cost if they were made here? Will consumers still pay the higher price? A study by Stanford University stated that the cost could easily go up by another 100 to 150 dollars if the same pair of sneakers were made in the U.S.

Adam Smith coined the phrase, "comparative advantage" which stipulates that countries should focus on what they can and do best. It's really quite simple. Imagine if Saudi Arabia tried to compete with the U.S. or Canada for the production of lumber.

So does that leave the U.S. out in the lurch? Not at all. What's our advantage? Efficiency and productivity. Companies are coming back to the U.S. and it's not all as a result of public opinion. A furniture factory is moving back to NC, why? It takes 10 Chinese workers to equal the production of 6 American workers. I have no idea what it would cost to ship a chest of drawers from China to the U.S., but I'm sure it would be a lot more expensive than shipping the same chest from Asheville to Seattle. This makes sense.

Another factor to consider is brought up in Matthew Crawford's book, "Shop Class as Soulcraft," you can't outsource the service industry. By that, he refers to the craftsmen and service technicians who do "hand-on" work. If your toilet backs up, it doesn't get outsourced to Mumbai. "You can't outsource a hammer," as Crawford puts it.

So I'm sitting here in my blue jeans and L.L. Bean casuals (China), wearing my long sleeve T-shirt (Pakistan), typing on my laptop (China) sipping coffee (Costa Rico) and will go outside to photograph some spring flowers with my camera (Japan) while wearing my shade hat (Canada). If I have time this afternoon, I might venture out on my motorcycle (Germany). And no, I am not stripping down to see where my skivvies were made.

As John Prine wrote, "It's a big ol' goofy world."

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Shhhhhhhhhhhh !!!! That will upset a lot of HOG's

Some will absolutely argue you to the wall that it is the only 100% "American Made" bike.
yup those are the same ones that will spend hours standing next to their "Harley Davidson's"
talking about how they are "the only real bikers"

I remember pulling into a motel where "they" had several rooms with their bikes proudly displayed out front,
when I tried to start a conversation with them, they wouldn't talk to me,
I can only assume it was because they did not "approve" of my choice of motorcycle,
as I heard them "grumbling" something about Jap crap,

they also probably didn't want to give me an opportunity to point out that here was more "Jap crap" on their bikes than my BMW

But I'm "stereotyping" there are also a lot of dedicated riders that simply prefer the HD brand,
I respect anybody that "really" rides, regardless of make or model,
I can do without all the other bullshit.


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I have never seen an XS (Extra Small) HD rider. Ever. Male or female.

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HD always brags that there gear in made in the USA... Cheap knock off.

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I have never seen an XS (Extra Small) HD rider. Ever. Male or female.
That's because they must keep that part of their anatomy covered,
still it's easy to tell, the louder the pipes,
the more they have the need to compensate!


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I have never seen an XS (Extra Small) HD rider. Ever. Male or female.
Must be a female jacket! I have seen a lot of (sorry for stereotyping) Crack whore type women on back of them! Not the hot model types for photos, the ones that are stumbling out of the bars to their bikes!

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So I'm sitting here in my blue jeans and L.L. Bean casuals (China), wearing my long sleeve T-shirt (Pakistan), typing on my laptop (China) sipping coffee (Costa Rico) and will go outside to photograph some spring flowers with my camera (Japan) while wearing my shade hat (Canada). If I have time this afternoon, I might venture out on my motorcycle (Germany). And no, I am not stripping down to see where my skivvies were made.
It's amazing how much things have changed in 80 short years...Motorcycles from Germany! Electronics from the Empire of Japan. It's really amazing when you think about it.

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At least some of the best moto gears are still Made in USA. These are my new 3-Season gloves.


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