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Five bucks says those little plastic wheels are not going to make it to its destination.

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"Sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do . . ."

By that, you mean, letting a dude ride on that back of your bike ... right?

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Five bucks says those little plastic wheels are not going to make it to its destination.

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What an inconsiderate bastidge. What happens when they hit any kind of bump, debris, etc., and he loses control of the bag and it goes flying - into someone's windshield or another motorcycle?

Hopefully these numb nuts got pulled over, cited, and then smacked around a little.

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By that, you mean, letting a dude ride on that back of your bike ... right?
Thought that was just a big boned girl


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Only in California...

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Five bucks says those little plastic wheels are not going to make it to its destination.

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my first thought was that the wheels would burst into flames, like in the cartoons.


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Re: Sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do . . .

And what does gender have to do with it?

I can say from direct experience that the LT pillion seat is quite comfortable, if a bit high up there . . .

And I've given lots of friends and family of both genders and all ages rides, sometimes their first motorcycle ride, in fact. And they universally love it.

Whatever genders happen to be in that pic isn't really relevant. What is relevant is that it's a seemingly simple yet unbelievably stupid thing to do . . .

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And what does gender have to do with it?

I can say from direct experience that the LT pillion seat is quite comfortable, if a bit high up there . . .

And I've given lots of friends and family of both genders and all ages rides, sometimes their first motorcycle ride, in fact. And they universally love it.

Whatever genders happen to be in that pic isn't really relevant. What is relevant is that it's a seemingly simple yet unbelievably stupid thing to do . . .
Leave it to Meese to get all PC up in here! Lighten up, Sweetie!

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Unfortunately it appears the good Senator may have better luck in the "depicted" line of endeavor than appears to be "emerging" from his real job!

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Lighten up, Sweetie!
I will, as soon as you stop sneaking up behind and poking me for your own amusement.

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Unfortunately it appears the good Senator may have better luck in the "depicted" line of endeavor than appears to be "emerging" from his real job!
I thought digging around for scraps was their real job . . .

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Unfortunately it appears the good Senator may have better luck in the "depicted" line of endeavor than appears to be "emerging" from his real job!
I thought he was trying to pick a winner, don't want to get political, but that seems what our esteemed govt. is doing.


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don't want to get political
Careful, as even the mere mention of that word is likely to get your post pulled and this whole thread locked down . . .

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I will, as soon as you stop sneaking up behind and poking me for your own amusement.
While I rarely can resist poking my good buddy meese with a stick ... the comments in this thread certainly were not aimed at you or anyone specifically.

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Yeah, I know it's nothing personal, at least not for the one's who make such light-hearted quips.

But I have enough friends who are gay, bi, or otherwise that I easily see how even an off-hand comment is still an (admittedly minor) attack on their person, based on nothing more than their own personal preferences which may (or may not) differ from your own, and that have no bearing at all on their actual worth as a person.

Comments like that are meant to be degrading in some fashion, even if you think it's only a bit of a joke, and so I tend to politely call folks out on them whenever I see them. And usually, that's enough to get them to think for just a second, just as you did here, which is really all we can hope for.

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You had me until the last paragraph, Ken. Sometimes an innocent remark is just that.

I'm not defending something here (I don't have a dog in this fight), just rebutting the notion that something that could possibly be interpreted to offend someone, somewhere, has to remain unspoken.

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Sometimes you gotta just take the comment at face value and not try to read any sinister intent. I didn't take the comment as relating to any gay issue.

Now, if the exit said "San Francisco" instead of "Los Angeles"... Oh, nevermind

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Yeah, I know it's nothing personal, at least not for the one's who make such light-hearted quips.

But I have enough friends who are gay, bi, or otherwise that I easily see how even an off-hand comment is still an (admittedly minor) attack on their person, based on nothing more than their own personal preferences which may (or may not) differ from your own, and that have no bearing at all on their actual worth as a person.

Comments like that are meant to be degrading in some fashion, even if you think it's only a bit of a joke, and so I tend to politely call folks out on them whenever I see them. And usually, that's enough to get them to think for just a second, just as you did here, which is really all we can hope for.
Happy New Year, Ken.

Ken, I will repeat what I've said time & time again. I have gay friends too. You don't have that market cornered ... nor does the west coast. My current boss is gay .... EXTREMELY gay. Her and I joke about her being gay openly in front of the whole company. And in her words, "It's quite refreshing to have someone around that doesn't walk on eggshells about the issue.". If she had read my comment, she would've chimed in and really said something that would have offended YOU. I'm just not sure what you would have said then.

All to say, to assume that my comment would offend someone is ... well ... just that, an assumption. And in my opinion, a ridiculous one.

And from this day forward, the next time a dude mounts my pillion, I will STILL make a comment about him keeping his hands and body parts in check, ...
no matter how sexy I am!

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I'll chime in here even though I already know I'm better of keeping my mouth shut.
I personally "hate" all this political correctness, it's turned us into a nation of "pussies"

I would just like to ask some of the "supporters" of PC behavior:
(especially Ken and Joe) because I respect your opinion and we have had intelligent and civil debates in the past
about things we still disagree on but yet I've learned from your insight,

why is it that I have to be so careful what I say and so concerned that I may offend
someone black or gay or muslim or whatever group that wants to be offended,
but "they" can do any damn thing they want
and if it offends me I'm the racist, homophobe, infidel or the intolerant.

To be more specific because some of y'all have a knack for distorting everything to fit your own agenda.
I know a few people that are black, they have my respect and my friendship
because of how they act

others walk around with their pants below their ass being as loud and disrespectful as they can possibly be,
but if I'm offended or say something "I'm the racist"????

My neighbors are gay, we are good friends, they are respectful decent people,
others walk around "swishing and prancing" and whatever else they can think of to "rub it in our faces",
but if I'm offended or say something I'm the homophobe???

Seems like a double standard to me????


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I got called out recently as a yup - racist - for using the term "ghetto rigging" in an article I wrote. I guess I offended someone in the ghetto.

The only thing I meant was the common urban dictionary definition: "the act of fixing something, even though you do not have the right tools, knowlegde, or ability"

I didn't know that was racist or even had a second hidden meaning - but now I have been informed to be more sensitive.

I told them to have a nice day. That definitely has a second meaning.

Crazy freakin' world we live in....


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It all boils down to respect, from both sides.

Respect for those who are different from you in whatever manner, by not degrading them through words or actions meant to set them apart as somehow inferior in some way.

And respect by those who choose to live their lives outside of some random social "norm", by not constantly challenging everyone else to change to fit their own perceptions.

Joe's and his boss have a relationship based on some level of mutual respect, so a bit of kidding around isn't taken seriously on either side. But if Joe walked up to some random couple of guys and jumped in with that level of "joking", it would be offensive, and rightly so.

Ask yourself this: If it was a female on the back of your bike, would you make the same exact comments about her keeping her hands and body parts in check, or would it quickly devolve into some sort of crude boob joke? Or if the above pic had two girls riding, what would your comments have been then, and what would the undertones have been? Now tell me there's not a difference there . . .

Because words matter, and they have meanings and context beyond a mere string of letters or sounds. What you say is important, of course, but so is how you say it, and how you present it, in any situation, especially if you're interacting with a relative stranger with whom you haven't had the chance to build up any history that might help temper your "jokes".

People react to you based on how you treat them. So no, you're not completely responsible for every single person that you interact with and how they might possibly take every single comment that you utter, but you are responsible for participating in society in a manner that respects others, including not spouting stuff that is known to be demeaning and derogatory, even if you think "it's just a joke, jeez . . . "

And yes, I also know some Fabulous people who feel the need to remind you just how Fabulous they are. And when I actually sit down and talk with them, I find their outer persona is a direct reflection of them getting hassled and harassed and even attacked over many, many years, just because some people took offense to their personal choices and constantly let them know it through various passive-agressive or downright obnoxious ways.

So their outward response is more akin to Hans' position on the matter, which is to say "This is who I am, and if you don't like me expressing myself, then it's your problem . . . "

Basically, it really just comes down to Live and Let Live. If we all did that, the world would be a much simpler and more peaceful place for all of us.

And yeah, Happy New Year to y'all. I'm sure we can all use a great one this trip around the sun . . .

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Ron, What if you had used "redneck rigging"? Do you think that some southern folks might have gotten offended by it?

I've been spending a lot of time in Atlanta and the South over the past few years taking care of some family issues. And let me tell you, there is still a huge undercurrent of racism there, of the feeling that nothing more than the color of your skin really does make you better or worse than another human being.

It's not as blatantly obvious as it used to be, but it is still there, seething just below the surface, and it comes out in a myriad of ways such as how folks treat each other, how they speak to and about each other, and who they simply ignore.

No one has the right to get offended by anything and everything that everyone says about them, but in the same manner, we all have a responsibility to interact with others in a manner that's respectful of them, and of ourselves.

Even if, and especially if, we happen to disagree with them or their choices.

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Well said Ken. To me, political correctness is often just old fashioned politeness. If "James" tells me not to call him "Jimmy" I will simply not call him "Jimmy" anymore. As far as what "they" do or say, I can't control that.

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WOW!
From a person towing a suitcase down a freeway to homophobic racist bigots.
THIS has to be one of the all time worse cases of a thread going south. Think I'll head north to the humor section.
Oh, and happy new year all.
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"Sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do . . ."

By that, you mean, letting a dude ride on that back of your bike ... right?
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Well said Ken. To me, political correctness is often just old fashioned politeness. If "James" tells me not to call him "Jimmy" I will simply not call him "Jimmy" anymore. As far as what "they" do or say, I can't control that.
But there's is NO "James" in this thread. Just Ken assuming that James would be offended by being called Jimmy. The James I know don't give a rip if you call him a fag or a redneck.

My gay friends like my sense of humor.

My redneck friends like my sense of humor.

And Ken Meese, in person, seems to like my sense of humor. I've never heard otherwise.

And lastly ... Ken, if a female gets on the back of my bike, I would say the exact same thing. "Keep your hands and body parts in check." Quite frankly, I think you're a sexist for inferring that I would say anything different! So THERE!

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[QUOTE=meese]Ron, What if you had used "redneck rigging"? Do you think that some southern folks might have gotten offended by it?

I think that some southerner's might get offended by being called "folks"

See Ken, even the best intentioned comments can get stretched so far out of whack they approach being entirely ridiculous. I've never heard of redneck rigging, but I can say that "Afro engineering" is offensive to me since it points to a specific ethnic group. It's a very fine line, but as Potter Stewart, a well known supreme court justice said: "I know pornography when I see it."

So, I pose this question to you:

“Ghetto” rigging is the act of fixing something, even though you do not have the right tools, knowlegde, or ability, almost always a crude or temporary fix.

“Dude, my computer screen broke, and I had to ghetto rig my PC to my TV.”

“Sorry I’m late, I was ghetto rigging my ride so I could get here.”

Are any of these statements "racist"?

Quite frankly anyone that CAN ghetto rig I consider to be quite clever, hip and yes, even have some style. While the modifications I was talking about in my article were far from crude or temporary a vast majority of them were done by re-purposing items that were taken off the old boat. Now THAT'S PC.

More food for thought:


“Jury” rigged is a sailing term, as in “rigging” the mast or sails after a critical component may have failed. Bailing wire and duct tape come in handy.

“Jerry” rigged is a slap at German’s at the end of WWII, Nazi’s to be exact…when they started to run out of supplies and needed to “fix” things.

Pick your victim: PC Yuppies on Fifth Avenue, lawyers or Nazis. Someone will always be highly offended if they dig hard enough and want to advance their own narrow minded cause.

I gotta go now, I'm going to "Samsonite Rig" a hitch for that rolling suitcase.


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OK, call it Redneck Engineering, or There I Fixed It. We've all seen examples of that.

And you know damn well that Ghetto comes from underprivileged neighborhoods, usually occupied by poor, disadvantaged (insert your least favorite ethnic group here).

The connotation is that they don't have the skills, experience, or money to do it "right", so they cobble some piece of crap together with whatever old junk is laying about. You may take it as a matter of pride, but most folks just look at such things and shake their heads in unkind judgement . . .

Now I'll agree that the overly-PC crowd can get out of hand, even to the point of ridiculousness. Which is why I fall back on basic respect, rather than specific "do's" and "dont's.

And still, the overwhelming argument against recognizing that words have power and specific connotations and thus speaking with respect is "Well, I don't want to change, so they should just get over it!"

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My point remains, Joe, why does it matter if it's two dudes or two chicks on the bike? Why does gender matter here at all?

It's simply two people on a bike, doing something rather foolish.

When we get to a point where different genders, races, and (insert any other defining characteristic here) are all treated with equal respect, then we can let all of this crap go.

And we'll know we're there not when someone tells us we are, but rather when none of this stuff matters to anyone anymore. When it, in fact, becomes simply unremarkable . . .

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WOW!
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THIS has to be one of the all time worse cases of a thread going south. Think I'll head north to the humor section.
Oh, and happy new year all.
All time worst cases, now that really offends me!!!

I'll agree that this thread has definitely "changed direction" but I don't see "the worst" of anything in here,
instead there are "some things" that aren't talked about anymore in today's world
and it's not going to get any better unless we (all) talk about them.

I agree 100% with Ken it's a matter of respect,
I don't care who or what color your daddy is or whether you prefer the pole or the hole,

it's all about what you do with "your" life and how "you" act!

What pisses me of is getting this PC crap shoved down my throat

There's something wrong when a man can no longer speak the truth because it might offend someone!


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There's something wrong when a man can no longer speak the truth because it might offend someone!
I agree 100 % Han's. Everyone should speak the truth regardless of how it effect's anybody else.

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FWIW, I think this is a good discussion. There's something to be learned here by all who participate, or just follow along.

I'll throw out 2 more points:
1. Hans is right on target in raising the point about a double standard. Many people/groups/institutions/organizations show their inconsistency and use of a double standard, if you just pay attention to what they say should be done and what they, themselves, say or do. The ultimate "political incorrectness" is to point out this double standard to them. It drives them crazy.

2. Sometimes what's seen by someone as racism or bigotry is actually ignorance - on their part. Example: Some years ago my boss overheard me mention a book title, specifically "Little Black Sambo". She called me in to her office and politely told me I could never say those words at work again. It didn't matter that I explained the book title is about an Indian (the country, not Native American) child. All my boss knew was that it could offend someone who overheard it. Now, I realize that term has taken on a different meaning over the years but I was in a discussion with a coworker about children's literature. Good grief.

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Fair enough, but even the truth can be spoken with respect.

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I was recently upgrading some of my music on I-tunes. One song I downloaded is one worth listening to - listen to the words.
While I got the cover by Presley, it was originally done by Sinatra, called "My Way".
One portion of the songs talks about speaking truthfully.
Worth a read or listen. Addresses this thread rather well.

edit: here's the lyrics for just that part

For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has naught
To say the things he truly feels and not the words of one who kneels
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Fair enough, but even the truth can be spoken with respect.
completely agree with that provided that you are speaking to or about somebody "worthy" of respect!

I believe that all men are "created" equal,
what they do with their gift of life determines
whether or not they get my respect or disgust.

I think most of us already believe that "people" shouldn't be "judged" by their skin or gender, belief or sexual orientation etc, etc.

At the same time why ???? should these "groups" of people which in reality only represent a small percentage of our population,
have the power to tell the rest of us what we can or cannot say or do??


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At the same time why ???? should these "groups" of people which in reality only represent a small percentage of our population,
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Careful there Hans, or else this'll turn into a religious thread, and you know how they hate that around here . . .

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I think it's a picture of two homo sapiens of unknown gender who must live in a ghetto of underprivileged redneck engineers and respectfully classify them both as idiots for pulling that stunt whether they arrived at the desired destination with or without event. ....and yes I am admittedly a luggagist!

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So much for respect...
Hey now, I didn't say anything one way or another about it, expect that it tends to be frowned upon here.

Jeez, Joe, don't read so much into a random off-hand comment, and try not to be so easily offended . . .

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I think it's a picture of two homo sapiens of unknown gender who must live in a ghetto of underprivileged redneck engineers and respectfully classify them both as idiots for pulling that stunt whether they arrived at the desired destination with or without event. ....and yes I am admittedly a luggagist!


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Looks like I-10 southbound down near Tucson?
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The exit sign says "Nogales", so that's probably the exit to I-19 south off of I-10.

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Naw... I'm fairly certain Ken is ALWAYS in front.

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See, now Joe can make that quip, because he knows me enough to respect me, and he knows that I'll simply write it off to just Joe being Joe.

But crack that kind of comment at a complete stranger, and it's a whole different story.

I'm still bummed that the only time Joe and I actually rode together was in the heavily-enforced 45 mph stretch at Grand Teton NP in 2005. I'd have liked the chance to show him all about riding in front . . .

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Some of us will never forget the sight of both you and Joe in that saloon together Ken! And of course that famous statement by Joe: "So you're Meese!"

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But crack that kind of comment at a complete stranger, and it's a whole different story.

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