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After a little digging, I found some interesting numbers for BMW Motorcycle sales in the US in previous years:

2003: 15,300
2004: 13,316
2005: 12,803


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After a little digging, I found some interesting numbers for BMW Motorcycle sales in the US in previous years:

2003: 15,300
2004: 13,316
2005: 12,803
They have said the GS and K-S have increased sales , it would be interesting to see what the latter part of 05 did for bmw MC sales in the us.

I wonder if it increased towards the end of 05 because fo the GS and S bikes, I'm thinking probably so.
Also makes me wonder how the new GT will do for 06 I bet it does good once people start test riding them!

one other thing, in some circles long time BMW MC owners are worried about BMW MC dependability, I hope BMW can step up and take the worry away from them. I would love to see BMW MC take a larger share of the market due to being the dependable MC folks have always said they were


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This data is from an article from spain that was posted on a couple other sites about a month ago:

Main market breakdown by motorcycles sold in 2005:
Germany - 24,064
USA - 12,803
Italy - 12,700
Spain - 8,003
Great Britain & Ireland - 5,651
All of Europe combined - 71,920

Number of units sold by bike model

R1200GS - 25,705
R1200RT - 14,538
K1200S & R - 13,665
F650GS - 11,949

I find it absolutly amazing that Italy had nearly as many BMWs sold in 2005 as the entire USA.


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one other thing, in some circles long time BMW MC owners are worried about BMW MC dependability, I hope BMW can step up and take the worry away from them. I would love to see BMW MC take a larger share of the market due to being the dependable MC folks have always said they were
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Boy Tom, that's a mouthful! I'm getting that same feeling from guys I ride with that have been on BMWs for 30 years!

As we all know ALL bikes have some issues, but BMW now has its fair share or more, as well as the other guys. The mystique is over. (With their car line too!)

The new Beemers are cool, but overpriced, with a sparse (and getting sparser) dealer network and little apparent support or interest from the parent company.

Their market share can only continue to slide, as they can't succeed in conquest sales with the aforementioned liabilities.

That’s too bad. I have loved every BMW I had, cars and bikes, but the company seems too arrogant to give a shit these-days.

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This data is from an article from spain that was posted on a couple other sites about a month ago:

Main market breakdown by motorcycles sold in 2005:
Germany - 24,064
USA - 12,803
Italy - 12,700
Spain - 8,003
Great Britain & Ireland - 5,651
All of Europe combined - 71,920

Number of units sold by bike model

R1200GS - 25,705
R1200RT - 14,538
K1200S & R - 13,665
F650GS - 11,949

I find it absolutly amazing that Italy had nearly as many BMWs sold in 2005 as the entire USA.
Wow me too! maybe because the j branded bikes are going more toward sport touring markets these days? and much less expensive to boot.

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Boy Tom, that's a mouthful! I'm getting that same feeling from guys I ride with that have been on BMWs for 30 years!

As we all know ALL bikes have some issues, but BMW now has its fair share or more, as well as the other guys. The mystique is over. (With their car line too!)

The new Beemers are cool, but overpriced, with a sparse (and getting sparser) dealer network and little apparent support or interest from the parent company.

Their market share can only continue to slide, as they can't succeed in conquest sales with the aforementioned liabilities.

That’s too bad. I have loved every BMW I had, cars and bikes, but the company seems too arrogant to give a shit these-days.
If they all had the attitude I get from BMW Atlanta I think the sales would be much much better. if these new model bikes are durable then I can see them regaining market sales but i think it would take some time for the word to actually get out and do something

who knows I'm no market analist

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From the article towards the bottom:


Motorcycles sales volume also increases significantly

The Motorcycles segment was also able to achieve growth due to its new models: The sales volume for the full year rose by 5.6% to 97,474 (2004: 92,266) units, with the R 1200 GS, R 1200 RT and K 1200 S contributing especially to the sales performance.

I guess us LT lovers don't buy enough to compete with the other models.
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I think Tom hit it on the head. BMW has always been BMW as a company. I believe it has a lot to do with the dealers in regards to customer satisfaction and relationships.


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Hummmm. I think you meant analyst. No?
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With the US being only about 15% of their total motorcycle market I expect they don't just listen to us.... They have bigger markets to work on and can probably gain more market in other countries.......Regards Pete
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