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post #1 of 23 Old May 7th, 2012, 11:28 am Thread Starter
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Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

How do you stop the engine on your bike? The stop switch or the key?

During a rider class several years ago, the instructors for the basic class next door were telling riders to always use the stop switch instead of the key. They never offered a reason that I heard, but I can reason through some logic points for either scenario (not saying they are correct, just theorizing):

Use the switch:

- initiates engine stop procedure through CANBUS, ostensibly shutting down the fuel supply, resulting in a "clean" cylinder/injection system with no residual fuel sitting in them

- leaves the rest of the electrical system powered up until you turn off the key, allowing for marker lights, etc. to remain on

- you still have both hands on the bars when using the switch, thus maintaining better control of the stopped bike

Use the key:

- you can't forget to turn the key off, eliminating the possibility of a dead battery
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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

I use the sidestand.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

Neither one, I leave the bike in first gear & put the side stand down. This kills the motor plus if you are parked on a slope it will help keep the bike from rolling off the side stand. Of course I then turn off the key as not to run the battery down.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

Sidestand here, too.

Another reason they teach the kill switch method is to develop muscle memory, so that in an emergency you can hit the kill switch quickly without thinking about it. Don't know how practical that really is, but I've heard it taught that way before.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

In gear + sidestand. The poll might need to add this method.

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In gear + sidestand. The poll might need to add this method.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

Great minds think alike! I use the sidestand, and then the key - in that order.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

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Great minds think alike! I use the sidestand, and then the key - in that order.
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The exception is when parking in the garage and I'm going to put it up on the center stand. Then I leave the trans in neutral, and use the kill switch.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

In gear put Kickstand down. Then the key.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

I like the sidestand / then key method.

However, those of us with Road Rocketeer Brake! LED taillight modules have learned to use the key. Any other method leaves a residual "tail lamp out" alert on the dash. Not good, but I've easily learned to use the key - and I REALLY like the LED taillight assy.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

I normally use the side stand to kill the motor then just turn the key off. If i'm using the center stand I use the key to shut it off.

I don't think I've ever used the kill switch.

Is it better to use the kill switch?

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

Side stand then key. I don't like to call anything the kill switch.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

I have never used the stop switch or the key...ALWAYS the sidestand. And one thing I learned...the hard way.... is that even if the sidestand kills the engine, it does not mean the sidestand stayed down. I stopped in my driveway, put the sidestand down (or so I thought), the engine stopped, I turned off the key, I proceeded to get off the bike and it tipped over into the side of my house. Luckily, I was between the bike and the house preventing damage to either of those two precious possessions. The only damage was to my new Shark helmet which rubbed the side of the protruding flu for the fireplace. NOW my procedure is to stop the bike, put the sidestand down....look at my foot on the sidestand....remove foot....look at sidestand remaining on the ground....turn off key....get off bike. It is now routine...sidestand down, bike stops...look at my foot on sidestand....remove foot...look again... sidestand still there, get off bike. Very simple and Ihave never tipped over again. By the way no motorcycle riders (including myself) was harmed in this test procedure.


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It looks like the poll needed to have the option that 90% of us use: Side stand! It really serves two purposes: It checks the function of the side stand; and it makes sure that the Bike will not roll off the side stand, provided you have it in gear, and against the engine compression.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

One more for the side stand method. Only time I use the key is when I am back in the garage and park it on the lift. I put it in neutral and use the key. Come back in a few minutes after the oil has drained back into the sump and put it on the centerstand and lube the chain while it is still warm.

If I have to shut it down quickly I will just hit the key.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

I use the key.
Why? I never had any formal riding training so whatever habits I picked up on my 1st bike Kaw 1000 I guess stuck with me. The LT and I have grown used to the center stand so except for fill-ups I hardly know I have a side stand. When I am not on it CS is deployed. I have checked the cut off switch after I shop my bike along with everything.
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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

MSF rider education still teaches to use the "ENGINE CUT OFF SWITCH" (never say KILL switch), then turn off key and park on side stand with trans in 1st gear. I believe this is probably a carry over from the days when many bikes did not have interlocks on the side stand. I'm sure you have all heard stories of the guy that tried to ride off with the side stand deployed and crashed at the 1st left turn! Anyway, the reasoning is, as someone already mentioned, to train yourself to use the engine cut off switch instinctively so that should an emergency arise you will shut off the engine without having to think about it.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

Another for 1st gear and side stand then the key.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

Side stand. Looks like the poll missed the boat.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

Depends on where I'm shutting down, if in the garage on the center stand, I use the key. If I'm at work I have to park on a slight downgrade, I use the sidestand, then shut off the key. Other times I use the kill switch. Chuck
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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

First gear, side stand and then the key.

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

Side stand and then the key. That way I'm sure I did not forget to put the side stand down again:-)

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Re: Shutting down the engine: Kill switch or key?

While holding brakes and engine at idle in first gear LET OUT CLUTCH stalling engine, then turn off key.

Bikes in gear, backlash of drive/gears tight .... NO FALLING OFF SIDE STAND because bike can't roll forward folding it up !!

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