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Oh great, another anti-motorcycling nutcase

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here is his e-mail addy:

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let's all write him to let him know what we think. here is what i just wrote:

hi there, pinhead.

congrats ... your anti-motorcycle rant has made motorcycling bulletin boards in california and elsewhere. this will represent a BIG jump in readership for you. in fact, i think your name will circle the globe before all is said and done.

well done.

except this is probably not the kind of publicity you prefer.

it is okay to NOT have the cojones to ride anything other than a barcalounger. it is NOT okay to paint us all with the broad brush of ignorance, in the time-honored tradition of pinheads around the world. and it is definitely NOT okay to indirectly threaten us with violence.

as for me, i am a lifelong biker with more than 35 years of riding under my belt. i am law-abiding, tax-paying, and responsible.

oh, and as a free american i have the right to draw attention to your little missive so that my brothers in sisters in and around texas know where you stand, and how tempted you are to open your car door on them.

the internet is a wonderful thing, eh?

one more thing ... another pinhead here in california, a local DJ, made similar assinine comments regarding motorcycles. his station ended up issuing a public apology and making a big contribution to a fund promoting motorcycling safety. he held onto his job ... barely.

here's hoping a similar fate awaits you, bubba.

i suspect you have not heard the last of this.

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I sent him a leetle love note and forwarded his column to the AMA.



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It's ironic you think everyone in America is getting dumber... while you link all motorcyclists to poor judgement and dangerous driving habits who deserve to be hit with an open vehicle door? I see why you don't work in the hard sciences.

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Dear Mr Simpson,

Regarding your recent rant against motorcycles...

Nothing irks me more than sitting in 5:00 or friday traffic and seeing a perfectly good freeway clogged with enormous 5000 pound vehicles, each carrying on average one 170 pound person.
Your ignorance surrounding motorcycles and those who ride them is stunning. Yup, there are a few wheelie popping idiots but you know the one about a few bad apples right?
Most of my riding friends are, like myself, proffesionals and business owners. Some, like myself, with an excess of 100,000 safe cycling miles and decades of riding under our belts.
I'm sure you'll have plenty to read from other cyclists in the coming days, but know this... if you open your door in front of me, I'll have you prosecuted and jailed. You open it in front of another less legally minded cyclist and you may well find yourself in the emergency room.
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Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Here is the email I sent:

"Dear Mr. Simpson,
I read your editorial in the Lake Cities Sun online today, regarding motorcycles. As a motorcycle owner I agree with many of your comments, but disagree with others. In fact, I am alarmed at your tone.

You paint all motorcyclists with a very broad brush. Not all of us (in fact, I'd suggest the vast majority) never pull the stunts you describe (high rate of speed, wheelies, dangerous operation, etc.). I certainly don't, and don't ride with others who do. I am 49 years old and operate a high-end touring bike in a safe, courteous, and legal manner. I have seen the stunts you describe; in my experience it's the "young turks" (20-somethings) who do this. They would be doing similarly-dangerous stunts in cars.

Any time you'd like to see "a motorcycle that was driving the speed limit and adhering to all traffic laws", just watch me on my bike.

Lane-splitting (the practice of driving between rows of cars) is legal -- with some restrictions -- in California, but not in other states. Opening a car door to prevent this behavior is just as wrong as the offense itself. Do you really want to intentionally hurt or kill someone who is breaking a motor vehicle law? Are you a police officer?

Finally: Pro-motorcycle PSAs, bumper stickers, and the like are necessary because many drivers simply don't look for motorcycles while they are driving. Most car-motorcycle crashes are caused by automobile drivers turning into the path of a motorcycle. Combine this with impaired driving and cell phone-distracted drivers and we can use all the help we can get.

Please use more reason when you address this topic in the future, and refrain from advocating violence against motorcyclists."


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I sent my condolences for his mental condition also.

Bet his email box catches on fire!

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Wonder if the system has crashed yet at the paper?

Maybe Andy could help..........
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This is the letter he got from me, but a letter to the paper is still in the queue.
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Dear Mr. Simpson

I just read your editorial comment about motorcycles. While I have to admit that there are SOME idiots on bikes, I also have to say that by far the majority of all riders are more than responsible and are just exercising the rights we have been given by the constitution of this great country.

Now, I'd have to say a few words about your comments in particular the comment about opening a car door in front of an approaching motorcycle. While it is currently not legal to lane split in Texas, that does not mean it is legal trying to kill a motorcyclist. As a matter of fact IF someone does that having read your column I hope you are aware that you just put yourself into the line of legal fire by publically inciting vehicular homicide. I certainly hope your professional insurance covers that and you can go to sleep with that thought.

What you don't seem to understand is that this motorcyclist, the one you are hating so much is one car less in front of you. In other words: We are doing our thing in order to reduce congestion, instead of increasing it by driving cars. Have you ever compared the footprint of a typical motorcycle to the footprint of a typical car? Just try to think about it in terms of

a) fuel used (ever heard of global warming)
b) road usage (how many times can a motorcycle drive over a certain stretch of road until it does the same damage than a car does in one swoop?)
c) congestion avoidance (How many more MC can you get into the same stretch of road?
d) many, many more

I am sure that by now you KNOW that you in the hot seat. The morning DJ in San Francisco that pulled off a similar stunt a few weeks ao was just barely able to hold on to his job, and I guess you will have to face the same fate. In his case he was at least clever enough to IMMEDIATELY publically apologize, the station donated a sizeable number of $$ for motorcycle safety, ... I think you get the drift.


I will also send a copy of this letter to the owners of the paper you are writing for, and request a public apology, since with the publication of such dangerous nonsense you brought yourself as well as the paper in miscredit.

Have a nice day


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Wonder if the system has crashed yet at the paper?

Maybe Andy could help..........
I'm not into crashing systems ... That is someone else's job. Mine is to make them crash proof.

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here is his e-mail addy:

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And the email address of his publisher is:

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has the article been pulled?

just followed the link, but can't find the article. I too would love to mail any idiot who wants to open his car door to stop a motorcycle.

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and my letter...

What were you thinking?

No, honestly... what were you thinking when you wrote this little masterpiece?

Inciting people to open their car doors to kill someone on a motorcycle!!! Just because you are stuck in traffic???

While I may understand your frustration, I do not agree with your road rage prose, especially knowing that you actually sat down, took the trouble of putting these words in writing, and even ran the spell checker...! In the meantime there may be someone who won't make it home to their spouse and children because someone decided to follow your advice and open their car door on an approaching motorcycle. What if that motorcyclist happens to be a law enforcement officer, either on or off duty?

One would assume that writing an article for the press comes with certain responsibilities, like checking the veracity of your facts, and not merely stating that some people should die because you don't like what they drive, who they vote for,

Your essay was nothing short of profiling. I am sure that all motorcycle riders look alike to you. Here is a shocker: Many motorcycle riders do obey traffic laws, at least most of the time. Many of us started riding in the early teens, and today we are professionals and family oriented people. I happen to work for a very business oriented company, IBM, and I certainly do not appreciate being "fair game" as you put it.

I sincerely hope you get reprimanded at work, that your paper makes a sincere apology and a statement to discourage the practice of trying to hurt a motorcyclist when you are stuck in traffic. An out of pocket donation to a motorcycle safety organization should be in order as well, and you probably should attend anger management therapy before you hurt someone either directly of by proxy.



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Looks like they pulled it! YES!
but not before I copied it and emailed it to the socalsporttouring yahoo group!

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I sure would like to be a fly on the wall in this paper today ... LOL

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I have been trying to pull up the article, but keep getting a blank page. Do you suppose someone got the message?
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Gilles, can you re-post the text of his editorial here? I didn't even think to keep it for posterity... or is that posterior


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You should have asked them to print a retraction and apology -- and maybe even the resignation letter of said Douglas Simpson.

I saw a good analogy written by someone at another site that Mr Simpson should take to heart... "next time you're tailgating an 18-wheeler, here's hoping he's not upset enough to slam on the brakes and have you run into the trailer. Then talk to me about opening doors on bikes sharing lanes. As the trucker shouldn't be enforcing the law on following too close, neither should you be considering enforcing the laws you choose to."


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but not before I copied it and emailed it to the socalsporttouring yahoo group!
Do you still have it? Please post it. I would love to read it. I called the LC Sun and they don't have an answer to what happened to the article. If you feel it is inappropriate to post it please email me a copy ([email protected])

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If you missed the original - you can read part of it here -- http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9752
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The Text

The text lifted from the BMWMOA site. Thanks to Rebecca Vaughn:
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Here is the first part of Mr. Simpson's editorial. The last parts had no motorcycle content:

Airing of grievances

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1. Motorcycles. Why are these things street legal? I challenge anyone out there to remember a time they saw a motorcycle that was driving the speed limit and adhering to all traffic laws.

When I see them, they are usually going about 120 mph down I-35E, weaving in and out of lanes like those white lines are just there for show.

Nothing irks me more than sitting in dense 5 p.m. or Friday traffic, only to see a motorcycle driving between the rows of cars, going about 40 mph. I want so badly to open my car door just before they reach me.

I’ll never forget the time I was driving down the George Bush around 10 p.m., when all of a sudden scorching down the road were not only about five motorcycles driving erratically, but they were all riding on their back tires. Popping a wheelie while doing 80 mph down a public roadway: stupid.

I remember a few years back, I think after Gary Busey had his bad motorcycle wreck, there was a public service announcement asking motorists to “keep an eye open for motorcyclists,” like they are being abused by us car and truck drivers.

I remember telling the TV, “I’ll look out for them as soon as they start obeying traffic laws.” I’m still waiting, so in my eyes, they are fair game.

Our police officers do a good job, I just hope they pay a little extra attention to the wheelie-popping idiots that are making the roadways dangerous for all of us.
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if that poor guy ever does ... even accidentally... open his door into a motorcyclist... he's gonna have some splainin to do.
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Here you go. Somebody was nice enough to forward the commentary to me. Only the first part about motorcycles is included:

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Here is the first part of Mr. Simpson's editorial. The last parts had no motorcycle content:

Airing of grievances

Douglas Simpson
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1. Motorcycles. Why are these things street legal? I challenge anyone out there to remember a time they saw a motorcycle that was driving the speed limit and adhering to all traffic laws.

When I see them, they are usually going about 120 mph down I-35E, weaving in and out of lanes like those white lines are just there for show.

Nothing irks me more than sitting in dense 5 p.m. or Friday traffic, only to see a motorcycle driving between the rows of cars, going about 40 mph. I want so badly to open my car door just before they reach me.

I’ll never forget the time I was driving down the George Bush around 10 p.m., when all of a sudden scorching down the road were not only about five motorcycles driving erratically, but they were all riding on their back tires. Popping a wheelie while doing 80 mph down a public roadway: stupid.

I remember a few years back, I think after Gary Busey had his bad motorcycle wreck, there was a public service announcement asking motorists to “keep an eye open for motorcyclists,” like they are being abused by us car and truck drivers.

I remember telling the TV, “I’ll look out for them as soon as they start obeying traffic laws.” I’m still waiting, so in my eyes, they are fair game.

Our police officers do a good job, I just hope they pay a little extra attention to the wheelie-popping idiots that are making the roadways dangerous for all of us.


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I would suspect there is someone in Mr. Simpson's family or circle of friends, past or present, that had a bad experience with a motorcycle. He certainly got a nice edge on his axe from his commentary today but discovered it truly is a double-edged sword. Sure, there are a number of idiots riding motorcycles but I would have to say the ratio is much smaller than the number of idiots in the media posing as editors with anything meaningful to say. Letters to the editor can get away with that sort of rant but to publicly advocate violence against a particular social group on behalf of your employer should certainly be a terminable offense or perhaps a demotion to the residential distribution department. I just hope no one opens a car door as he is pedaling down the street.

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"Nothing irks me more than sitting in dense 5 p.m. or Friday traffic, only to see a motorcycle driving between the rows of cars, going about 40 mph. I want so badly to open my car door just before they reach me."

How amazingly irresponsible on this man's part. My guess is he watches "The Simpsons" a bunch.

I suggest the paper hear from everyone that can send them a note regardless that they have pulled it.

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"Nothing irks me more than sitting in dense 5 p.m. or Friday traffic, only to see a motorcycle driving between the rows of cars, going about 40 mph. I want so badly to open my car door just before they reach me."

How amazingly irresponsible on this man's part. My guess is he watches "The Simpsons" a bunch.

I suggest the paper hear from everyone that can send them a note regardless that they have pulled it.
Pulling it is just a START...the paper needs to apologize. In my email to the publisher I invited him to check out motorcycling as he might even LIKE it. I also asked him how he would feel if one of his readers, possibly as weak minded as simpson himself, acted out as encouraged in this article.
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I'm not into crashing systems ... That is someone else's job. Mine is to make them crash proof.
I should have used the sarcastic smiley. My intent was that you *wouldn't* use your considerable talent to help them after a jillion angry cyclists crash their system by overload.

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Pulling it is just a START...the paper needs to apologize. In my email to the publisher I invited him to check out motorcycling as he might even LIKE it. I also asked him how he would feel if one of his readers, possibly as weak minded as simpson himself, acted out as encouraged in this article.
fully agree. there must be a lawyer among us who can pen a letter in lawyer-speak, demanding a retraction and an apology, closing with his/her job title and the name of his/her law firm.
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Article has been pulled.
I saw it, but would like a copy.
Anyone save it ?.
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I added my 2 cents also.

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I'd like to know how many mails they have got, I've sent them a snotogram too, wonder how long before we see a retraction.

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Look in this thread. It's there.

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Thanks, I just noticed.
Be interesting to see if and when they publish an apology.

Andy, nice letter. That should give him a few sleepless nights.

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