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Recent Data Motorcycle Crash From Nhtsa

Following reports concerning motorcycle crash data are very interesting. At least I thought so!

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811159.PDF

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811208.PDF

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That's very sobering stuff. Amazing how many boozed up bikers there are...

Every time I have a customer leave my shop the last thing I say to them is "watch out for left turners!"

Now I have the data to back that up.... thanks!

In 2008, there were 2,387 two-vehicle fatal crashes involving a motorcycle and another type of vehicle. In 41 percent (985) of these crashes the other vehicle was turning left while the motorcycle was going straight, passing, or overtaking the vehicle.

I will now continue my rant that a flashing high beam is the best safety feature EVER devised for motorcycles. It has stopped left turners cold in their tracks for me many, many times.


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Thanks Lynn,

Hit it on the head....

lots of parameters listed with lots of data to chew on....

Like Ron said, very Sobering... One of the reasons that I don't drink and ride, not more than one anyway..

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I'm surprised at the fatalities of helmeted vs non-helmeted. In many states the helmeted fatalities exceed the non-helmeted.

Wonder what their definition of "helmeted" is - perhaps helmeted needs to be broken-down further to specify DOT/Snell approved vs skull caps.

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I'm surprised at the fatalities of helmeted vs non-helmeted. In many states the helmeted fatalities exceed the non-helmeted.

Wonder what their definition of "helmeted" is - perhaps helmeted needs to be broken-down further to specify DOT/Snell approved vs skull caps.
Thought I remember reading somewhere in there that to be considered "helmeted" the helmet had to be DOT/SNELL approved. Therefore typical not DOT "brain buckets" wouldn't be included.

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Thought I remember reading somewhere in there that to be considered "helmeted" the helmet had to be DOT/SNELL approved. Therefore typical not DOT "brain buckets" wouldn't be included.
Hi Lynn -

The NHTSA Traffic Safety Facts Report states on Pg. 6 that "All motorcycle helmets sold in the United States are required to meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 218, the performance standard which establishes the minimum level of protection helmets must afford each user."

The NHTSA Motorcycle Helmet Use and Head and Facial Injuries Report states on Pages 6-7 that: "An inherent difficulty in combining crash data from multiple States is that police crash reports differ from State to State. To overcome differing definitions of data elements, a set of standardized variables was created (Appendix A). Each State was responsible for determining the most appropriate method of creating each standardized variable from its crash report and hospital data sets. States electronically submitted their standardized data to the CODES Technical Recourse Center at the University of Utah, which provides assistance to the CODES program under a cooperative agreement with NHTSA. Additionally, States submitted data dictionaries describing how State-specific data elements were used to create the standardized variables. CODES TRC personnel reviewed the data dictionaries and consulted with each State to ensure an accurate mapping from the State crash report.
Due to variability in State crash reports, some States were unable to create all of the standardized variables. Appendix B shows variable availability by State. While most variables were captured by all States, such as time and month of crash, some variables were much less frequently available. These variables include whether or not the motorcycle rider (operator) was licensed or had an endorsement for motorcycles and whether the crash occurred in a rural or urban location. VIN information was also sparsely captured from State to State and therefore will not be included in this report. Similarly, motorcycle licensure/endorsement is excluded from this analysis. Crash reports in the various CODES States are not detailed enough to allow a comparison of the effectiveness between different types of helmets, i.e., U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) approved versus not DOT-approved, or face shield versus no face shield. Finally, all hospital charges have been adjusted to 2005 dollars."

Admittedly, I have not yet read all 55 pages of the second report, but it appears from above that the data is not consistently available from state to state.

Don't get me wrong - this is a great report, and illustrates just how difficult is it to compile all the data necessary to draw meaningful conclusions.

The report is an eye-opener for me since I am still amazed at how many "helmeted" fatalities there are. If nothing else, it's a sobering reminder that even w/ ATGATT there are no guarantees.

Ride safe (and smart)!

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The report is an eye-opener for me since I am still amazed at how many "helmeted" fatalities there are. If nothing else, it's a sobering reminder that even w/ ATGATT there are no guarantees.
In states that had helmet laws, the majority of deaths were of people who were wearing helmets. In those states that did not have helmet laws, the majority of deaths were of people not wearing helmets. This relationship is what I would expect.

There were a few anomalies however, in Rhode Island & Idaho, both states without helmet laws, more helmeted riders died. Also, in Alaska, Arizona, Delaware, Florida, & Pennsylvania, ( all states with no helmet laws ) , the fatality rate between helmeted & non-helmeted people was within 2 percentage points.

I would be surprised if many of those helmeted riders who died were wearing ATG.
I rarely see riders wearing all the gear in my area.

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