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Who's the best? (drummer edition)

One of the other boards I frequent has a thread going about this. Lots of opinions...some from guys who've actually played professionally. Favorite quote from that thread so far, "anybody who plays a kit that rises, rotates or flies is a douchebag"

Now, I don't know chit about drummin', but I know what sounds good to me. So who do you like? Here's a few high points to ponder....

Buddy Rich (gotta be at the top of anybody's list)



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I think this guy rates, and he even rides a BMW -









Even he pays tribute to the guy who was likely GOAT -










And this is just fun -








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At first I thought Dave H. was asking who was second best........ Then the fine mister Taylor raised the stakes and Brought out the only number one. He would be the guy I have watched live over a dozen times since the late seventies and is still playing today. Of course he rides a BMW too. Thanks for the great music gentlemen.

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At first I thought Dave H. was asking who was second best........
I'm a huge Rush (and especially Peart) fan. Neil is very gifted and an accomplished drummer within his genre and it happens to be a genre that I really like. I'd have to hear him cross over, play some other styles, before I would put him in the "best" category. Preference of style goes a long way in forming an opinion of who's best, I would think.

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Here is my choice: definitely one of the best. Everyone has heard him; you might just not know it.

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I thoroughly enjoyed this thread. Being an old dude and a drummer in the high school band 40+ years ago I was totally digging it. However, asking who is the best drummer is like asking who is the best baseball player, or football player or basketball player. Years ago I heard that Buddy Rich used to smoke week before a gig as it made him feel that he was playing slow so he tried to play faster and faster. From him to now the amount of different percussion instruments have increased allow for more diversity. But if you look at the basics I still favor the first video of Buddy Rich. He is using technic in a very fine way or heavy way.

I also think another drummer, Charlie Adams, drummer for Yanni, is great! I saw him do a solo in concert, that guy was every bit as good as Buddy, as fast and when he played it did not even look like he was breaking a sweat, like he was taking a walk in the park. Also used a smaller set like buddy and did more variations. Here is a liknk to a short video that really does not do him justice.

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At first I thought Dave H. was asking who was second best........ Then the fine mister Taylor raised the stakes and Brought out the only number one. He would be the guy I have watched live over a dozen times since the late seventies and is still playing today. Of course he rides a BMW too. Thanks for the great music gentlemen.
The kit Neil is playing in the R-30 DVD clip is insane! I love the overhead shots when he really starts wailing on it, amazingly fast.

Of course, he does get a "Douchebag" point since the kit mechanically rotated 180 degrees on it's pedestal.

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I'm a huge Rush (and especially Peart) fan. Neil is very gifted and an accomplished drummer within his genre and it happens to be a genre that I really like. I'd have to hear him cross over, play some other styles, before I would put him in the "best" category. Preference of style goes a long way in forming an opinion of who's best, I would think.
Dave,It would be very difficult to determine who really is the best. Its all about personal taste. Just like which steed you ride. You have a favorite and appreciate any other quality ride. .

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The kit Neil is playing in the R-30 DVD clip is insane! I love the overhead shots when he really starts wailing on it, amazingly fast.

Of course, he does get a "Douchebag" point since the kit mechanically rotated 180 degrees on it's pedestal.
You have to give him credit just for keeping track of so many instruments!

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Thanks guys! Rich was amazing.....especially for such a small kit! OFC, the muppets are always classic.

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Somewhere in here we should stick Carl Palmer of Emerson, Lake & Palmer. Although some say Keith Emerson banged on keyboards like they were drums, Carl is a somewhat unappreciated drummer. He did quite a few drums solos. He's not up there in the top 3 or perhaps 6, but deserves honorable mention.

Here is nutrocker, not his best.

And all without seeing the drums

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Ok I had to go back and look at the Buddy Rich clip. There is no doubt about it that guy had the fastest hands. Look at the drum strokes. They were not 1/16, not 1/32 but 1/46 notes. Each one clear and distinct. Yes he did not have the bigest kit but look how he played what he had, not just loud but soft and to keep the beats individual.

One other old timer not mentioned was Gene Krupa here is drum battle between the two on the Sammy Davis Show 1966,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ5B7yqDYbA&NR=1

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Ginger Baker was pretty awesome in his time. Especially with Cream.
The best I ever saw live was Don Brewer with Grand Funk Railroad.
Saw them twice. The one at Oakland Coliseum in '71 was incredible. Women climbing eight feet or so up on the stage, breaking through two lines of security guards, and chasing Mark Farner all over the stage, until the guards could catch them, and throw them back in the crowd.
Of course we were all 'googly eyed', and that's the best I can remember! That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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Here's my personal fav.
Jack is very well regarded among the pros. I've heard him called "the best" by pros. I've seen him and Buddy Rich, not to mention many, many others. No comparison. Jack, hands down to me, is the most technically proficient percussionist, ever.

Just my $0.02 (as a percussionist for over 40 yrs),
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Any discussion of best drummer's would be incomplete without considering Keith Moon- so unique. RIP.


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Ok I had to go back and look at the Buddy Rich clip. There is no doubt about it that guy had the fastest hands. Look at the drum strokes. They were not 1/16, not 1/32 but 1/46 notes. Each one clear and distinct. Yes he did not have the bigest kit but look how he played what he had, not just loud but soft and to keep the beats individual.

One other old timer not mentioned was Gene Krupa here is drum battle between the two on the Sammy Davis Show 1966,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ5B7yqDYbA&NR=1
I saw Buddy Rich at a hotel in Harrisburg, Pa in the early seventies.
What a sight it was, two long-haired rock musicians attending a concert with a bunch of semi-stuck up jazz aficionados. (My friend Tom asked me "what are we doing here?" I told him, it's not often that you get to see a true pioneer and expert in his craft and we should go just because the chance may never come around again.)
We stood out like a sore thumb but we never regretted it.
I've been to hundreds of concerts since. I've seen some of the best drummers ever. Chad Wackerman, Ansley Dunbar, John Bonham, Neil Pert and others to numerous to mention or remember for that matter.
I've never, ever saw a drummer do a snare drum roll like Buddy Rich.
He started off with a slow roll and gradually (and I do mean gradually) sped up to where it sounded like a thousand bee hives were in that ballroom.
No, there were no drugs or electronic enhancements involved here either. It was one of the most amazing drum stunts I ever had the privilege of witnessing and it obviously left quite an impression on this young teenage rocker.
What does this mean in the context of this discussion? Don't really know except to say all the other drummers I've seen mimicked or repeated one way or another, parts of other drummers solo's. It's almost like you've seen one great drum solo, you've seen them all.
I've never, ever saw any other drummer do what I saw Buddy Rich do that night. It was friggin' amazing.

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i'm a keyboard player but always thought drums would be the next best choice. agree with comments about picking the 'best', i luv all these players..

but to this day, i've never seen anything like keith moon in 70-71 at cobo hall in detroit, when he played a solo....unreal. just one of those magic moments. tickets we're 18 bucks for great seats, bought them off a coworker who couldnt go.

the original jamesgang (joe walsh) opened for them....not sure i've seen a more electric, energized concert to this day and i've seen 100's.

sigh...maybe in my next life i'll be a drummer.

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Can't forget Todd Sucherman. In addition to countless studio and live sessions with dozens of famous artists (everyone from Brian Wilson to Survivor to Spinal Tap), he's been drumming with Styx for the last 15 years or so.

And he currently holds Modern Drummer Magazine's "#1 Rock Drummer in the World" title. I've seen him play to 30,000-person stadiums, down to a beach bar band with maybe 300 patrons. The man simply loves to play, and his skill and enthusiasm are just awesome.

He's released an instructional DVD called Methods & Mechanics that really shows of his range and skill set.

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The kit Neil is playing in the R-30 DVD clip is insane! I love the overhead shots when he really starts wailing on it, amazingly fast.

Of course, he does get a "Douchebag" point since the kit mechanically rotated 180 degrees on it's pedestal.
The funny thing is that Neil claims to be incredibly clumsy and uncoordinated, except when he's drumming.

As for the rotating drums, that's actually two completely different kits that he has set up. Some of those 80's Rush anthems required the use of the new-fangled electric drums . . .

There is a great discussion of Neil's drum sets through the years at this link, including pictures and full descriptions of all the components.

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....There is a great discussion of Neil's drum sets through the years at this link, including pictures and full descriptions of all the components.
Thanks Ken, that was great! I have no friggin' clue what any of it meant, but, it took me way back to another place and time, to my very first Rodgers drum set.......

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I like keeping a thread alive so today I was on the Buddy Rich web site and found the interesting quote.

"I can hardly do better than quote something Gene Krupa once said, that there are all these great drummers in the world -- and then there's Buddy Rich. During the making of our tribute record to his music, Burning For Buddy, I immersed myself pretty deeply in Buddy's life and work, and the more I learned, the more I came to admire the man and his music. Quite simply, Buddy Rich was a great man, who did great work."
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I like keeping a thread alive so today I was on the Buddy Rich web site and found the interesting quote.

"I can hardly do better than quote something Gene Krupa once said, that there are all these great drummers in the world -- and then there's Buddy Rich. During the making of our tribute record to his music, Burning For Buddy, I immersed myself pretty deeply in Buddy's life and work, and the more I learned, the more I came to admire the man and his music. Quite simply, Buddy Rich was a great man, who did great work."
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Had Neil Peart actually met Mr. Rich I wonder if he'd have the same opinion? I met him when I was in High School at a private residence where he showed us budding drummers some of his techniques. All I can say with regard to the above quote is that he did great work.
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One of the best drum solos I have ever seen (on video) was Santana at Woodstock. Their drummer Micheal Shrieve was 19 at the time.
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One of the best drum solos I have ever seen (on video) was Santana at Woodstock. Their drummer Micheal Shrieve was 19 at the time.
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Ya it did bring back some chemical memories!

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