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Ruger 380 Auto

I just purchased a Ruger Mini 380 for the wifes birthday. Cute little thing. I hope my Glock 40 does not get jealous.

It will fit here hand very nice with no recoil.

I guess I better not piss her off now.

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Re: Ruger 380 Auto

Al, have you seen the holster that looks like a wallet for those things? You don't even have to remove it to fire it. That little Ruger is right up there with the Walther for quality too. Great choice...for a .380 anyway.

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I looked at couple of those yesterday. Nice little hide away pistol. Of course you cannot buy one in my state unless you are full time LEO.

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LOOKING AT A CRIMSON LASER SITE FOR IT AS A CHRISTMAS PRESENT. MY GLOCK IS A LITTLE TO LARGE TO CONCEAL SO I HAD BETTER BECOME PROFICIENT WITH THE 380. THE KELTEC 380 IS ALSO A GOOD MINI.

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Is it the Ruger LCP? If so, nice pocket pistol. We've had one for several months now; concealed carry was the intended use; it's small enough that it doesn't make me feel like everyone is staring at the gun in my pocket.

I have found that CC is a psychological hurdle I have to get over, plus I need to make the usual changes to wardrobe, etc., to accommodate anything larger.

I have one of the wallet-style holsters Jerry refers to. Very easy to carry.

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Just consider loading it with round nose (hard-ball) ammunition. The 380 is slow enough out of the muzzle that the round nose needs to be used for it to have acceptable penetration. The round nose usually reduces the number of malfunctions as well but try some to make sure it functions properly as each firearm is a little different. That's a fine weapon other than the velocity issue. It should last you a lifetime.


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have a sig sauer 380 and have a hard time hiiting cans off a post..i do alot better hitting those cans with a 22 or 22 mag vs that 380..hmm
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Got one a couple of weeks ago and shot 50 rounds so far. As I could not find ball ammo for it, I used hollow point which jammed the gun several times. The hollow point got caught going from clip to chamber. I have been informed that this problem will go away with 100 - 200 rounds being fired. Anyone else with this experience. Still trying to find some ball ammo for it. I guess it is scarce in this location.


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have a sig sauer 380 and have a hard time hiiting cans off a post..i do alot better hitting those cans with a 22 or 22 mag vs that 380..hmm
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Cans off a post? I might could hit a 5 gallon can with mine. If you find ammo-buy it all!
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Got one a couple of weeks ago and shot 50 rounds so far. As I could not find ball ammo for it, I used hollow point which jammed the gun several times. The hollow point got caught going from clip to chamber. I have been informed that this problem will go away with 100 - 200 rounds being fired. Anyone else with this experience. Still trying to find some ball ammo for it. I guess it is scarce in this location.


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I had that same issue with my Kahr CW40. It drove me crazy since I don't EVER remember my Beretta 9mm jamming.

After 150 rounds it has been flawless. The owner's manual even mentioned this!


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Just consider loading it with round nose (hard-ball) ammunition. The 380 is slow enough out of the muzzle that the round nose needs to be used for it to have acceptable penetration. The round nose usually reduces the number of malfunctions as well but try some to make sure it functions properly as each firearm is a little different. That's a fine weapon other than the velocity issue. It should last you a lifetime.
Hey Dean - what's your thoughts on alternating hollow points and balls in my Kahr CW 40?

That's how I currently have both clips loaded.


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I'm not a believer in mixing ammunition in an auto-feed weapon. With that said if it makes you happy and doesn't jamb I see no problem with it. My personal opinion is that penetration is better than expansion. You are more likely to complete the job with a hard-ball round that gives you good penetration versus a hollow-point that expands and stops shortly after entry. The bottom line is that you will likely not die unless you take a shot to the brain, spinal cord, lungs, or one of the large vascular areas. Opinions vary though.


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Thanks, I guess the only way I'll know if its dependable with alternating rounds is to shoot a couple of hundred more, although at the price of ammunition these days...


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Is it the Ruger LCP? If so, nice pocket pistol. We've had one for several months now; concealed carry was the intended use; it's small enough that it doesn't make me feel like everyone is staring at the gun in my pocket.

I have found that CC is a psychological hurdle I have to get over, plus I need to make the usual changes to wardrobe, etc., to accommodate anything larger.

I have one of the wallet-style holsters Jerry refers to. Very easy to carry.

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Thats the one. Picking it up Saturday. Her birthday is 11/1 so she will get it then. I will be in the Communist Country of Seattle so I better watch how I presnet it to her.


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I just went to Cabelas website and there is plenty of .380- ammo. 100-300-600-1000 rounds from 34.99 to 469.00 for a 1000. Plenty of special home defense rounds also.

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Thats the one. Picking it up Saturday. Her birthday is 11/1 so she will get it then. I will be in the Communist Country of Seattle so I better watch how I presnet it to her.


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[QUOTE=spokane1200lt]I just went to Cabelas website and there is plenty of .380- ammo. 100-300-600-1000 rounds from 34.99 to 469.00 for a 1000. Plenty of special home defense rounds also.QUOTE]

I see lots of .380 ammo listed but when I click on it to order ir all shows as backordered. .380 ammo has been very difficult to find in the last 6 to 9 months and the price has more than doubled on it.

I also have the Ruger LCP. It is a nice concealable weapon. But it is definately a close-up last resort weapon. It is difficult to shoot very accurate at distances and the stopping power is limited. But still th LCP and the Kel-Tec P3AT are both very nice handguns.

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I just went to Cabelas this weekend. They have plenty of 380 ammo in various grains. I picked up six boxes of .380 95GR. I will be picking up 1000 rounds of hand load from a serious friend gun nut who is out of work. Just using at the range.

I have some home defense rounds for home. Factory load though. I have been told that if you shoot someone in your house with hand loads it show intent to commit a crime. DUUHHHH

Do not come in my house then and I will not have to fire upon you.


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Got one a couple of weeks ago and shot 50 rounds so far. As I could not find ball ammo for it, I used hollow point which jammed the gun several times. The hollow point got caught going from clip to chamber. I have been informed that this problem will go away with 100 - 200 rounds being fired. Anyone else with this experience. Still trying to find some ball ammo for it. I guess it is scarce in this location.


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I use Glaser Slugs in my Browning 380. Haven't had a miss fire yet and can mix it with ball ammo without problems.

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Got one a couple of weeks ago and shot 50 rounds so far. As I could not find ball ammo for it, I used hollow point which jammed the gun several times. The hollow point got caught going from clip to chamber. I have been informed that this problem will go away with 100 - 200 rounds being fired. Anyone else with this experience. Ultra LT
Yes. There is a factory defect in the design of the bullet ramp leading into the barrel that causes this. I would imagine a new gun should have the new barrel design. But maybe you got the old version somehow. Ruger will fix the gun for you free of charge. I'm shooting Winchester SXT hollow points with no problems now. There has also been a recall to prevent accidental discharge if you drop it. I still haven't sent mine in again for that yet. Their website has the info on how to tell if your gun has had the recall fix. I would check it. If it doesn't have that fix, I'd say there's a very good possibility it's also missing the fix for the jamming problem.
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Thanks for that information. I will check their site and see if my gun qualifies for the recall.

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Thanks for that information. I will check their site and see if my gun qualifies for the recall.

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Recall on the Ruger LCP is all serial numbers starting with 370xxxx...........?
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Thanks, I guess the only way I'll know if its dependable with alternating rounds is to shoot a couple of hundred more, although at the price of ammunition these days...
Ron, no need to use balls on a .40. Plenty of penetration with hallows--even if you're blasting the heavy 180 grains.

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No recall on my gun. 72XXX. I just need to break it in, if I can find some 380 ammo.

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Ron, no need to use balls on a .40. Plenty of penetration with hallows--even if you're blasting the heavy 180 grains.
Cool, Thanks Jay. I'll stick with all hollows. That old penetration vs. expansion debate is a hot one... good points for both sides but I like the idea of making big cavities.

I need to get a couple of blocks of gelatin and throw a party.


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No recall on my gun. 72XXX. I just need to break it in, if I can find some 380 ammo.

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The other thing that helps is to be "decisive" when you pull the slide back to chamber the first round. Pull it back firmly and quickly, then let go and let it snap back by itself. I was tentative at first, and my brother in law (ex military) set me straight on that. That's probably old hat for you seasoned automatic shooters, but it was news to me and works much better that way.
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Cool, Thanks Jay. I'll stick with all hollows. That old penetration vs. expansion debate is a hot one... good points for both sides but I like the idea of making big cavities.

I need to get a couple of blocks of gelatin and throw a party.
I'm still wrestling with the hi speed (lighter bullet) vs slower speed (heavier bullet) thing. On a hi-jack note, speaking of penetration: allegedly, depending on who's opinion you're listening to, we are equipping our combat troops with the wrong rifles/ammo. The .223 (5.56mm approx 55gr bullet?) is to lite and does not penetrate. Better is the 7.62mm (.308?) with a much heavier bullet.

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Yes. There is a factory defect in the design of the bullet ramp leading into the barrel that causes this. I would imagine a new gun should have the new barrel design. But maybe you got the old version somehow. Ruger will fix the gun for you free of charge. I'm shooting Winchester SXT hollow points with no problems now. There has also been a recall to prevent accidental discharge if you drop it. I still haven't sent mine in again for that yet. Their website has the info on how to tell if your gun has had the recall fix. I would check it. If it doesn't have that fix, I'd say there's a very good possibility it's also missing the fix for the jamming problem.
The good news is that Ruger provided very fast turn around on my LCP. From my office to back in my hands was 5 days. They paid shipping both ways.

Conversely I sent S&W two Walther PPK/S pistols for a similar recall. They were both sent in the same day in separate packages - one took eight weeks and the second was ten weeks.

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