Originally Posted by cfell
My dear friend was killed ...
I think "CHL" licenses are ridiculous... and one day will not be required... that is what I hope.
Perhaps it is time to contribute some "data".
Here is the Texas CHL website http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis.../chlsindex.htm
where I got the following data.
Using CHL conviction rates http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis...Report2006.pdf
, for 2006 (the most recent report), of the 61,539 convictions, 140 were CHL holders, a percentage of 0.2275% of the total convictions. There is no mention of whether firearms were used, although there "aggravated" numbers in the breakout.... as well as sex crimes...etc.. all crime that was "convicted".
The department states as of 2007 there were 288,909 "active" CHL holders in Texas. That's a percentage of 0.00048% "convictions" using the 2006 conviction rate and 2007 "active" CHL holders.
Some may twist this to say... "See, CHL holders commit crimes!"
Some may say... "Texas should not allow CHL! "
Some may say... "Give us their addresses!"
To me, this clearly shows that the conviction rate for CHL holders is far less than the "general population" ...
The CHL does NOT enable someone to carry. It is only to REGISTER persons who MAY carry.
Do you think criminals give a rat? Do you think the guy who killed our friends cares what you think?
Look, these concerns are worth listening from all sides. The Texas Legislature listened, too.
All things being equal, the crime rate by CHL holders will rise as more of the population becomes "certified".... just another way of "proving" data points... and perhaps opinions.... you'll notice when they compare a previous year's number of convictions "increase"... but, that's just the way they work the numbers...
What it comes down to, is, are you "condition one and only", willing to defend yourself... (not ATTACK someone) or a taped outline on the floor.
Oh, if they want our addresses.. here's where to find them:
it's called "Texas"....
I don't know what else we can do to help folks understand... other than to say, "Today we are your countrymen..."
and offer this from the writer, Kahil Gibran.... the Prophet of Lebannon...
What do you seek, My Countrymen?
Do you desire that I build for
You Gorgeous palaces, decorated
With words of empty meaning, or
Temples roofed with dreams? Or
Do you command me to destroy what
The liars and tyrants have built?
Shall I uproot with my fingers
What the hypocrites and the wicked
Have implanted? Speak your insane
What is it you would have me do,
My Countrymen? Shall I purr like
The kitten to satisfy you, or roar
Like the lion to please myself? I
Have sung for you, but you did not
Dance; I have wept before you, but
You did not cry. Shall I sing and
Weep at the same time?
.... I'll quit posting this because you can read the rest if you like.