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Any classic car guys?

Thought I'd share my other obsession, old cars.

The wife and I each have one, Mine is a '71 Plymouth Road Runner with a custom built 451 CI big block stroker putting out @500 hp. Hers is an '80 Camaro with a lowly V/6. We've had each of them for over 15 years and the RR is the $$$$ eater hands down as I'm always looking for ways to go faster. The Camaro is a nice driver and with the V/6 not to expensive to drive and enjoy.

Who else has the classic car itch?
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I do not own a classic car because everyone knows I cannot work on them, but I sure do like to look at them.

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Well..........
I don't know about "official classic" but I'm putting this in.
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My wife has a red 1967 Pontiac GTO 400 4 speed convertible and I have a red 1967 Cadillac coupe DeVille to keep my 1976 White Vette company in the garage. Yep we like them.

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There are a few of us here with diverse interests. For me, the urge to build a '41 Willys Coupe kit is getting stronger as I get older.



Nothing extravagant, just a simple street rod utilizing a modern drive train such as the one in my commuter car...


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I ordered this car from the factory in March of 1964 and received it as a graduation present from High School the summer before my Senior Year, on May 15, 1964. I'll keep it as long as I am alive.
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Wow Moonshine, you brought back some great memories. I had a 67 Goat Convertable in the 70's. White over Burgandy with white guts. I loved that car more than any other vehicle I have ever owned (including bikes) but not sure I could have afforded to drive it much when gas was $4 a gallon, cause she was a real hog. If there was one car I could ever have again it would be her (or a close relative...but it would have to be a convertable).

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I ordered this car from the factory in March of 1964 and received it as a graduation present from High School the summer before my Senior Year, on May 15, 1964. I'll keep it as long as I am alive.

Now thats what I call a "Classic".
Is the car all origanal?
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I ordered this car from the factory in March of 1964 and received it as a graduation present from High School the summer before my Senior Year, on May 15, 1964. I'll keep it as long as I am alive.

Damn Dick, you better hope you can keep it cause if you have to buy a new car the sticker shock is gonna kill you for sure.

She is gorgeous!!!

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not sure I could have afforded to drive it much when gas was $4 a gallon, cause she was a real hog.

I hear that! With the RR getting about 8 MPG it pretty much sat most of this year. In fact it sits alot, since installing the 451 about 5 years ago it's only accumulated about 1,400 miles. I usually run it every couple a months to keep things lubed and take it out when the need for violent acceleration arises.

Hey hoog62, the 41 Willys coupes make me all tingly in my happy bits. Always been a big favorite of mine.

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Thought I'd share my other obsession, old cars.

The wife and I each have one, Mine is a '71 Plymouth Road Runner with a custom built 451 CI big block stroker putting out @500 hp. Hers is an '80 Camaro with a lowly V/6. We've had each of them for over 15 years and the RR is the $$$$ eater hands down as I'm always looking for ways to go faster. The Camaro is a nice driver and with the V/6 not to expensive to drive and enjoy.

Who else has the classic car itch?
Yes, love old cars, have a 1965 Impala sport coupe SS396 since new, two 1986 El Caminos one of which is a SS and a 2000 K 1200LT with 10,000 miles--all for sale cause I,m too old to ride and too old to be working on cars n lets face it, if you got old stuff you gonna have to work on it occasionally

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I have owned many classics. 1970 Superbird, 1970 Cuda, 1957 Chrysler 300C, 1972 Duster 340. I currently have a Auto Cross car setup on 1984 Pontiac trans Am. Hotchkis racing Suspension, Tokico gas Shocks and A flow master exhaust. Rolling on ZR71 and Torques Thrust Aluminum Wheels. I love to give the tuner cars fits. They can not believe that I can keep up with them when my car produces less HP and is rear wheel Drive.
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I don't know if I have pics of it. I know my son does! We rebuilt a 1978 Chevy Nova. Had a 4 bolt main 350 output 425 hp, a 700 cfm edelbrock carb, with turbo 350 trans.

We were building it for the Hot Rod Power Tour East. John had brought it to have the exhaust changed, 3" stainless. Leaving the muffler shop, it had started drizzling and when it hit second, it went into a spin and Taco'd a Telephone pole right through the hood.

We managed to save the engine and tranny and some other stuff. It was a sleeper! We had not gotten to the bodywork yet, was planning to drive it in the power just like it was. That was a sweet ride for many reasons, mostly the time John and I spent working on it. We started just after his senior year.

PS the car was my dads,before we got ahold of it.

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I currently own a 1985 IROC-Z (original owner) that is NOT stock (still runs the TPI, of a sort) and a 1991 Formula Firebird.
Hoog, that isn't really a "tuner car". I believe he meant the little imports with the big fart cans on them
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I'm a truck guy. I appreciate the old cars too...but trucks move me.

Here is mine. 58 years old...my 1950 5-window 1/2 SWB Chevy.
Not a week passes without somebody trying to buy it from me.

Looking forward to starting a frame-off restoration in two years.
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I currently own a 1985 IROC-Z (original owner) that is NOT stock (still runs the TPI, of a sort) and a 1991 Formula Firebird.
Hoog, that isn't really a "tuner car". I believe he meant the little imports with the big fart cans on them


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Sold the yellow one this year. Keepin' the bronze one forever, since I'm the original owner.

Yellow = '55 Thunderbird 292 cu. in. - 2 bbl - 3 on the floor - Vintage a/c.
Bronze = '67 GTO 400 cu. in. - 4 bbl - 4 on the floor - factory a/c.
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Sold the yellow one this year. Keepin' the bronze one forever, since I'm the original owner.

Yellow = '55 Thunderbird 292 cu. in. - 2 bbl - 3 on the floor - Vintage a/c.
Bronze = '67 GTO 400 cu. in. - 4 bbl - 4 on the floor - factory a/c.
Now I'm jealous! Would that happen to be the RA IV 400? or RA III?

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I'm a truck guy. I appreciate the old cars too...but trucks move me.

Here is mine. 58 years old...my 1950 5-window 1/2 SWB Chevy.
Not a week passes without somebody trying to buy it from me.

Looking forward to starting a frame-off restoration in two years.

Yup, old trucks are fun also. My youngest brother had a '50 he was restoring but sold it before finishing. Next oldest brother currently has a short wheelbase 90 S-10 he converted to AWD. I included a pic taken before the conversion to AWD. It's running a custom built 13:1 smallblock burning E-85 and gobs of nitrous for an estimated 700 HP. Scary fun ride that, when the juice kicks in all 4 tires scrabble for traction and the truck does the crab walk.
His next project is a Fiero powered by a Cadillac Northstar engine....

My latest old truck was a 78 Dodge that I bought and fixed up/customized then drove for a summer and sold it.
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...hence "Your Honda can't do this".
Sorry. I misunderstood. Some people think the modern muscle cars are "tuners" because you do tune with software.
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Now thats what I call a "Classic".
Is the car all origanal?
She's a 'Beaut!!!!
I did a frame off restoration 3 years ago. I have all the papers since it was ordered. Numbers match. Engine is original and never worked on (other than replacing seals and painting). Now has 108,000 miles with all 8 cylinders at 95% on compression check. Transmission was rebuilt at 80,000 miles.

I have all the original parts and upholstery in storage. I did replace the upholstery, top and side trim with exact reproductions. It took over a year to find all the parts. I even have the correct date stamped spark plug wires and radiator hose clamps, an original A/C fuel pump and water pump. We took the car completely apart, clean every part and refinished it. We even reproduced all the original inspection markings. It's in better condition now then when I received it off the delivery truck 44 years ago.

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Damn Dick, you better hope you can keep it cause if you have to buy a new car the sticker shock is gonna kill you for sure.

She is gorgeous!!!
Thanks, $3,700.00 brand new including taxes. We won't talk about the restoration cost!

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Sold the yellow one this year. Keepin' the bronze one forever, since I'm the original owner.

Yellow = '55 Thunderbird 292 cu. in. - 2 bbl - 3 on the floor - Vintage a/c.
Bronze = '67 GTO 400 cu. in. - 4 bbl - 4 on the floor - factory a/c.
Hey Dick, I'm glad to see I'm not the only sentimental old guy on the block. Boy, would my wife like to have gotten her hands on that T-bird. Both are beautiful.

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Here is mine. 58 years old...my 1950 5-window 1/2 SWB Chevy.
I had an all-original 1954 GMC 100 pickup in college. 248 c.i. Straight-6 with the single-barrel carb and 3-speed on the column. Not a lot of speed, but stump-pulling torque. It really needed a full restoration which I didn't have the time or money to do. I still regret selling it, and every time I see one of those old truck I always check to see if it's the right year and model.

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I had an all-original 1954 GMC 100 pickup in college. 248 c.i. Straight-6 with the single-barrel carb and 3-speed on the column. Not a lot of speed, but stump-pulling torque. It really needed a full restoration which I didn't have the time or money to do. I still regret selling it, and every time I see one of those old truck I always check to see if it's the right year and model.
GMC = Sweet! I am a GMC guy. I drive a 95 now. I've had two 1964 GMCs (I still have one of them in E. TX returning to the earth out in the woods behind my parents house). Between those 64 GMCs and my 50 Chevy I owned a sweet 57 chevy truck. Damn, I should have kept that one!

Back in the 50s...I liked their grills...but the dashes were always ugly to me.


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Back in the 50s...I liked their grills...but the dashes were always ugly to me.
The nice thing about the '54 Jimmy is that it had a unique grill and a unique dash. Nothing else like it, back then or since.

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Thanks, $3,700.00 brand new including taxes. We won't talk about the restoration cost!
The Goat weighs 3,700 # and cost me $3,200 to roll it off the lot. Came with a quart of touch up paint - I think I still have it somewhere, butt it no longer sloshes when shaken!!

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, with nuttin' more major than a water pump replacement and a Flo-master dual exhaust system.
And LOTS of gas. I read an article about Pontiac's engines once...Specifically the 455 SD. The author said its fuel consumption rate was only exceeded by a carrier launched F-16 (they don't carrier launch them)..But I thought the comparo. was apt...the F-16's max fuel consumption is 54,000 lbs/hr MINIMUM.
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Now I'm jealous! Would that happen to be the RA IV 400? or RA III?
Ken, I think it's a bastardized HO. Although there are RA notations on the paperwork, the hood scoop is closed, and the air cleaner cover is similar to the Corvettes - pancake with louvers around the circumference.

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And LOTS of gas. I read an article about Pontiac's engines once...Specifically the 455 SD. The author said its fuel consumption rate was only exceeded by a carrier launched F-16 (they don't carrier launch them)..But I thought the comparo. was apt...the F-16's max fuel consumption is 54,000 lbs/hr MINIMUM.
I honestly don't know the mpg, Ken. I suspect around 14 - maybe 15. Pedal to the metal does result in real time movement of the gas gauge, tho!! Let's just say that ole Goat has been in storage this summer, while OPEC and the futures players have been having fun. Intent is to hit the road pretty soon and enjoy the lower petrol prices, with the windows down and the wing windows flared. It's pretty amazing how much serious turbulence there is in the cockpit at 65-70, butt hardly any below that!
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I honestly don't know the mpg, Ken. I suspect around 14 - maybe 15. Pedal to the metal does result in real time movement of the gas gauge, tho!!
That 400 HO had the same HP output as the RA engine in the GTO..360.
This is from a GTO site..What you have in the form of air cleaner and hood are the correct ones.
You have a real beauty there.
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14-15 mpg...sounds about right. When I was a kid my dad had a 67 Pontiac wagon with the 389..it got 16 MPG, highway, city and parked (that engine LOVED gas) Later we got a 69 Grand Prix with the 400...that car would RUN.

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Here's another one of my fix and flip rides. 66 Chrysler Newport power by a 383 big block with A/C. This car sat under a tree in someones back yard for many years until I rescued it. When I got it the brakes didn't work the engine was on it's last legs and the fuel system was wasted from years of sitting. I updated the front brakes to disc from a '73 Newport and a dual bail master cylinder and dropped in a good running 383 I had sitting around.I also had the fuel tank boiled out and sealed...you should have seen the crud in there! The A/C blew ice cold after a simple re-charge and I drove it for a summer including some long weekend trips. A true road car.
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Im more of a "modern" classic guy. I have owned a 96 Impala SS, a 2000 Camaro SS, a 04 CTSv with over 600RWHP and now a 07 STSv with just over 500HP at the crank....all have been my DDs....now Im looking for an old truck to work on.



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Not A Muscle Car, But It Still Turns Heads, Especially When My Wife (The Blonde) Drives It. 1987 Jaguar Xj-s V12, Did Not Start Life As A Convertible. Original Owner Sent It To Hess-Eisenhardt For Conversion From Cabriolet. I Am Second Owner. Gets About 15 Mpg, But Worth The Price. Shares Garage In Winter With '94 K1100 Lt, Also Red, Named Gunter.
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Not A Muscle Car, But It Still Turns Heads, Especially When My Wife (The Blonde) Drives It.
Nice car, but I gotta ask: Did she ever lock her keys in it? I hear it's a real pain, especially when the top is down.

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Nope... she only locks her keys in her T-Bird. Tis fun to watch her jump when she reachs into the Jag, or opens the door or trunk & forgets the alarm is on. She has a real good startle reflex. Just wish it got better mileage. With that V-12 it will pass anything except a gas station. Lousy acceleration from 0-60, but from 60-140 in a heartbeat.
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