No barbed wire...it might hurt the thieves, allotment holders told - BMW Luxury Touring Community
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 9 Old Oct 9th, 2008, 4:55 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
KMC1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SLC, UT, United States Of America
Posts: 2,337
No barbed wire...it might hurt the thieves, allotment holders told

Here's a little gem I found this afternoon that caught my eye.
I guess I better go get anything sharp out of my garage in case someone wishes to steal from me.........

Daily Mail

R1200GSA Hi Ho, Hi Ho, It's off to Alaska I go!
(Down to ONE BIKE - ARGH!)
KMC1 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 Old Oct 9th, 2008, 5:09 pm
Just ridin'
 
Randy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Aurora, CO, USA
Posts: 5,294
Re: No barbed wire...it might hurt the thieves, allotment holders told

Quote:
Originally Posted by KMC1
Here's a little gem I found this afternoon that caught my eye.
I guess I better go get anything sharp out of my garage in case someone wishes to steal from me.........

Daily Mail
The comments are as funny as the story:

Should they also leave their shed doors open in case a thief should break a fingernail on the lock?
- John Salkeld, Sheffield, England, 9/10/2008 17:08

Sorry John your a bit behind the times on these muppets.
The Illustrious Bristol City council has already beat you too that one . Last month they instructed all their allottment holders NOT to put locks on their allottment shed doors as they are damaged when thieves break in. Sometimes you really couldn't make up what this country has become over the last decade.

Randy Prade
Aurora, CO

Just ride it!
Meet Riley

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Randy is offline  
post #3 of 9 Old Oct 9th, 2008, 5:09 pm
Cat Herder
 
andy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Houston, TX, USA
Posts: 5,852
Re: No barbed wire...it might hurt the thieves, allotment holders told

That sounds about up the same alley as some LE departments do not allow their officers to carry hollow points because "they are too deadly".

Same moronic way of thinking.

Andreas Pleschutznig
'14 GSAW soon:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Still in search of Occam's razor to cut a Gordian knot.
andy is offline  
 
post #4 of 9 Old Oct 9th, 2008, 5:23 pm
Senior Member
 
grifscoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Outside New Braunfels , TX, USA
Posts: 13,451
Re: No barbed wire...it might hurt the thieves, allotment holders told

Quote:
Originally Posted by andy
That sounds about up the same alley as some LE departments do not allow their officers to carry hollow points because "they are too deadly".

Same moronic way of thinking.
Yeah, let them use FMJs. Might pass thru a perp and take out one of them nasty, innocent bystanders.

Before anybody jumps me on the "field of fire" thang, my disclaimer is- shit happens.



100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

-=grif=-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Grok
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
grifscoots is offline  
post #5 of 9 Old Oct 10th, 2008, 2:21 am
Lifetime Supporter
 
Rockdoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Oakwood, Derbyshire, UK
Posts: 824
Re: No barbed wire...it might hurt the thieves, allotment holders told

Regrettably, this kind of thinking isn't new. Believe i or not, under British law we have a "duty of care" to anyone on our property, whether or not they're there for illegal purposes. You can do nothing that might cause harm. That rule means that, for example, if you leave the snow on your drive and a delivery person slips and falls it's not your problem because it's a natural hazard. If you clear the drive and the same thing happens you're liable for any injuries because you've not taken enough care over the job.

Quite a few years ago, where I live, someone's elderly mother was being regularly harassed by yobs climbing into her garden over the wall. The police were ineffective so her son cemented pieces of broken glass along the top, which was a common sight when I was a lad, but the local authorities took him to court and won, forcing its removal. It was a danger to anyone climbing over it.....

We have imported the blame-and-courts culture from the US and have become completely paranoid about it. It sometimes seems that Britain is almost paralysed by the fear of prosecution as the result of what used to be considered an accident. Our local authorities have caught this disease very badly.

Keith


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
UK 2004 K1200LT Lux - Katie
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Rockdoc is offline  
post #6 of 9 Old Oct 10th, 2008, 3:04 am
Lifetime Supporter
 
BecketMa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Tucson, AZ, USA
Posts: 3,522
Re: No barbed wire...it might hurt the thieves, allotment holders told

I still think the best one is being held responsible for someone drinking too much at your party.

Guess if you're going to grow a garden, then you'll have to build a 6 foot wall.

Bob

"He was a foul caricature of himself, a man with no soul, no inner convictions, with the integrity of a hyena, and the style of a poison toad." H. S. Thompson
BecketMa is offline  
post #7 of 9 Old Oct 10th, 2008, 6:35 am Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
KMC1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SLC, UT, United States Of America
Posts: 2,337
Re: No barbed wire...it might hurt the thieves, allotment holders told

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockdoc
We have imported the blame-and-courts culture from the US and have become completely paranoid about it. It sometimes seems that Britain is almost paralysed by the fear of prosecution as the result of what used to be considered an accident. Our local authorities have caught this disease very badly.

Keith
Now wait a minute here. Are you seriously blaming the U.S. for such an egregious assault on common sense? The culture here is definitely much too far to the Left when it comes to placing responsibility, but telling people to leave their doors unlocked, or to outlaw putting up barbed wire? That's just silly. This post is a great example of the BS going on elsewhere in the world - Canadians blame the U.S. for their theft, drug, and violence problems, parts of Europe blame us for their financial problems - even though they have huge welfare states, others blame us for eroding their "culture"... I mean seriously, we are scapegoats for everything out of pure cynicism, when the responsibility lies with those who are affected.

R1200GSA Hi Ho, Hi Ho, It's off to Alaska I go!
(Down to ONE BIKE - ARGH!)
KMC1 is offline  
post #8 of 9 Old Oct 10th, 2008, 7:42 am
Lifetime Supporter
 
Rockdoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Oakwood, Derbyshire, UK
Posts: 824
Re: No barbed wire...it might hurt the thieves, allotment holders told

Quote:
Originally Posted by KMC1
Now wait a minute here. Are you seriously blaming the U.S. for such an egregious assault on common sense?
Not at all. It's our response to the importation of the compensation culture from the US that's to blame. It is so expensive to defend a claim for compensation that many companies and authorities settle out of court but, although it's cheaper, the sums are still big enough to make organisations avoid them as much as possible. As a result, they introduce ridiculous regulations to make sure their rears are never exposed and, if a claim does arise, they can blame an official for not acting in accordance with the rules. It seems that everyone wants something for nothing and will use the most trivial of reasons for taking action. The Eagles' song "Get Over It" covers the whole thing perfectly.

Here's another example of our crazy legal system at work.
Quote:
I mean seriously, we are scapegoats for everything out of pure cynicism, when the responsibility lies with those who are affected.
Ah! Responsibility. There's a word we hear too little of these days. We hear plenty about peoples' rights and how easily they are infringed but rarely of their responsibility not to infringe those of others.

Keith


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
UK 2004 K1200LT Lux - Katie
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Rockdoc is offline  
post #9 of 9 Old Oct 10th, 2008, 12:59 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
KMC1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SLC, UT, United States Of America
Posts: 2,337
Re: No barbed wire...it might hurt the thieves, allotment holders told

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockdoc
Not at all. It's our response to the importation of the compensation culture from the US that's to blame.
Um. Where do I begin? Well, first off, the word "tort" is derived from Latin - so the concept of suing a responsible party has been around a while longer than the hegemony of the United States. And to add to that of course, is that the American Legal System is based on the English system of Common Law, with some modifications and improvements from European influence (France, in particular). So, if you're going to point fingers at an imported culture, you're factually wrong in that the basis for lawsuits is founded in your system of Compensetory Law. It's not the result of the U.S. but rather a result of the further Socialisation of both our societies. By pushing an agenda of percieved entitlement, both our governments end up making us more and more dependent on it (them, as it were). And, as a result of Common Law, as each lawsuit sets a precedent, the following lawsuits become more and more restrictive until it ends up that the only responsible party is the one who can afford to pay the legal costs, without regard to actual responsibility.

R1200GSA Hi Ho, Hi Ho, It's off to Alaska I go!
(Down to ONE BIKE - ARGH!)
KMC1 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the BMW Luxury Touring Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome