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Large Hadron Collider nearly ready

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Apparently they are not 100% sure what will happen when they set this thing off.

It could create a black hole!

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I need one of them magnets to put under my LT to trigger the green light...

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Re: Large Hadron Collider nearly ready

Brings back the memories of working for the Plasma Physics Research Group and building systems for the MST at the University of Wisconsin.

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Re: Large Hadron Collider nearly ready

Maybe that Black hole they are creating will reveal the wherabouts of my Investment portfolio....as of lately.

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Re: Large Hadron Collider nearly ready

Appropriate location for the "a-hole of the universe" to open up.. yeah, that's what I've been told the "black holes" are...

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Re: Large Hadron Collider nearly ready

Does anybody else see the irony in "Large Hardon" collider?
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Does anybody else see the irony in "Large Hardon" collider?

HAD RON....you just had to go there didnt ya!

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I just KNEW there was a motorcycle story somewhere in that article! Well, maybe a trike - but it sure is damn cute...

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Re: Large Hadron Collider nearly ready

oh man...I misread the title. my mind must be in the gutter.


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Re: Large Hadron Collider nearly ready

The plan is to turn it on this weekend. $5.8 B to build. Original plan was to build it in Texas (back when Ronald Reagan was prez) but sadly, the budget went elsewhere, US science is in the toilet, and the forefront of physics is rapidly moving outside the US. There are some things I just don't think we should export, like control of NY's docks, high energy physics, Anheuser-Busch to name a few.

The cooling of the loop was completed in July - 1.9 degress above absolute zero. 1600 superconducting magnets are tested and running. This weekend (8/9) is just a test to synchronize the LHC with the Super Proton Accelerator, which is sort of like a BMW's starter motor. The gears have to mesh - you cannot have protons entering the loop collide with one's moving near light speed - its gonna leave a mark.

Nothing exciting is going to happen this weekend - France will not be sucked into the event horizon of a singularity. If all goes well, on September 10th, the first particle beam will be circuated at 450 GeV, about like going at 5 MPH - hope they keep the front wheel straight.

They last two steps, maybe in September, will be to force collisions at low energy, and then roll on the throttle up to 5 TeV (5 x 100,000,000,000,000 electron vollts).

The likelyhood of a black hole at the at power: 2% but the likelyhood of it lasting a femtosecond is only about 0.00001%. The big risk is that one or more magnet will fail or the temp will rise. With heavy protons going almost at the speed of light, they carry the impact of a small locomotive at 100 MPH. That is why the collecters are so massive. The large ring has what amount to the runaway truck ramps one sees in the mountains every 30 degrees around the ring. They are offshoots filled with material to contain and absorb the energy of the particles without taking out Frenchmen.

The current holy grail of high energy physics is to find the Higgs boson. in theory, the particle that gave mass to particles as the universe was formed. As yet, in Physics, there is no reason for the LT to weigh anything, let along 845 lbs. Somewere, somehow, about half of massless particles from the big bang learned how have mass. Physicists think the Higgs field is why, and the Higgs boson is how, but Fermilab appers to be just a little to low power to create one.

The weekend schedule of events is not just for publicity. If you look on the overhead view of the ring, there is an electric train line that runs over a portion on the ring, and the French transit line will shut down the trains on the weekend to so as not to shake anything up.

Startup events will be webcast.

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Re: Large Hadron Collider nearly ready

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....Apparently they are not 100% sure what will happen when they set this thing off. It could create a black hole!
Could create a black hole? My wallet has been a certified black hole for years!
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Maybe that Black hole they are creating will reveal the wherabouts of my Investment portfolio....as of lately.
I just checked the old hag's purse I found my portfolio!

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HAD RON....you just had to go there didnt ya!
now the plot thickens... Who is Ron? Who had him? Is he still at large?

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