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post #1 of 16 Old Jul 19th, 2008, 8:07 pm Thread Starter
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Any fellow Air Gunners?

One of my favorite (backyard) hobbies always was and still is to do some target practice with air rifles, and all in all I am a mediocre marksmen. The other weeks I finally had enough of my unreliable and spraying 177 springer and I moved up to 22. First, and I bought that last fall a Crosman 2250B (should have bought the XT, but y'all know what they say about hindsight) and last week I finally (quietly so that SWMBO doesn't know until it's too late) bought a UMAREX 850.

After sighting that one in I found out that I am in fact better than I thought I am, in terms of marksmanship that is. This little 8 shot repeater is good for about 120-130 shot on one cartridge and is quite precise if loaded with the right pellets.

At first I was thinking of moving up all the way to PCP, but I am not certain I want to commit that much money just yet. Although there is a number of rifles and air pistols available that would be quite 'interesting' Until I started looking again I would not have thought that these days you can buy a 9mm or even a .50 cal AIR rifle. And then there is this one .22 match pistol that shoots a 22 pellet at 1000ft/sec ... repeater ... Hhmmmm now where do I get those $$$ from?
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I've been kind of looking at the .177 in the NRA mag. Glad you told me about the .22!

Damn, but that looks sweet! http://www.umarexusa.com/850AirMagnum.aspx



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I have a Beeman R1 and R10 with scopes and both will drive tacks.
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I am not much of an air gunner, but I am a pretty good air guitarist.

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Re: Any fellow Air Gunners?

Andy,
Not into high velocity air but have a classic Daisy pump to use on the new generation of horned rats that wander through the back yard eating everything in sight.

They even get on their hind quarters to bump the squirrel-proof bird feeder to knock out the tasty seed.

It's probably fruitless through since the experience of a BB sting on their butts doesn't pass through their DNA to the next generation!

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I've been kind of looking at the .177 in the NRA mag. Glad you told me about the .22!

Damn, but that looks sweet! http://www.umarexusa.com/850AirMagnum.aspx
Yes, thats the one. The .177 has it's possibility, but i rather go for the slightly bigger caliber. Besides, the furry squirrel rats at my bird feeders do seem to have a distinct dislike for the .22

If you plan to get one, Make sure that you get the 'correct' pellets. While all of the .22 pellets fit, there are some that are just -1 on the quality scale of 0 to 10 and some others ... I have had very good experience with 'Benjamin domed, 'RWS Superdome' or the 'RWS Super H-Point' Especially the last ones. Stay away from Daisy products when talking about pellets. They are the cheapest of the cheapest and about 50% of the skirts are damaged and that does not exactly help in terms of accuracy. All the available .22 pellets here
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I have a Beeman R1 and R10 with scopes and both will drive tacks.
I love the R1, and I almost bought one, but I really moved to the CO2/HPA driven air guns. in my opinion that is much nicer as you have no twang and at least for me that means better accuracy. I have a 1000ft springer in my closet as well, but I did not touch that now for a while. Even removed the scope. I may have to sight that in again, just for the grins.
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I came across two Beeman "top line Olympyic" quality air rifles for sale many years ago, did not have the money. I waited a long time and finally ordered the last one of two left from Germany and bought a HP FWB .177, with every accessory offered, and about 10k assorted pellets. Had this super tuned five years after I owned it, then put it in storage.

Sold most of my guns after the cancer diagnosis. This had been for sale for about six years, one caller of interest, but no sale.

I used it to rid the animals the cats brought in the house, the occasional flying squirrel and such. Mostly, it set.

Then, I saw a hunting program last year, only using air rifles. Sort of got my interest up again, and got out the FWB. This was advertised as a survival rifle, very high velocity, and only 18 lb cocking force. Put a 3x, illuminated reticle scope, and this will drive tacks all day. Superb piece of work.

Good for at least 1 million rounds!

The .22 was still an option back then, but I wanted the higher velocity. Now that I am older, I would have appreciated the larger pellet, for ease of loading. Nonetheless, of all the guns I have owned, which have been many, this is one of the most accurate of any.
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My folks would never buy me a bb gun, they bought me a Remington Nylon 66 instead. Go figure!!!!

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this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
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Andy,
Not into high velocity air but have a classic Daisy pump to use on the new generation of horned rats that wander through the back yard eating everything in sight.
I have the same backyard vermin.
You need to borrow my S&W model 29. It will stop their DNA dead it their tracks. Time for a BBQ.

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this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
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....And then there is this one .22 match pistol that shoots a 22 pellet at 1000ft/sec....
A 1,000 FPS air pistol?!

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A 1,000 FPS air pistol?!
Yup. Clicky And it's a 6 shot repeater, just in case you miss with the first shot.

EDIT: And it gets even better: This is NOT classified as a firearm.
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Yup. Clicky And it's a 6 shot repeater, just in case you miss with the first shot.

EDIT: And it gets even better: This is NOT classified as a firearm.
WOW (again)! At a 1,000 FPS that would be a deadly weapon that could be concealed and not even count as a firearm (as you said).

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Got a RWS/Diana years ago ,it is a .177 barrel cocking ,still shoots better than I can. Have always used RWS pellets they shoot too good to try any others.
Here in MO air rifles are legal for small game ,I have been forced to defend the pecan tree in the front yard from nut stealing "tree rats"
When I was in the sporting goods store looking it the RWS the bone head sales man was telling me how to put spray starting fluid under the pellet to crank up the FPS of the pellet to some 1200 or more . Did not try it but do know if the wrong gun oil is used it will diesel for a few shots and it shoots bad until it cleans out

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Got a RWS/Diana years ago ,it is a .177 barrel cocking ,still shoots better than I can. Have always used RWS pellets they shoot too good to try any others.
Here in MO air rifles are legal for small game ,I have been forced to defend the pecan tree in the front yard from nut stealing "tree rats"
When I was in the sporting goods store looking it the RWS the bone head sales man was telling me how to put spray starting fluid under the pellet to crank up the FPS of the pellet to some 1200 or more . Did not try it but do know if the wrong gun oil is used it will diesel for a few shots and it shoots bad until it cleans out

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Yes, you do get higher speeds with oil or starter fluid or anything else combustible in the chamber but the problem is that the airgun pellets are just not designed for supersonic flight. Their whole form is for subsonic 'flight' . So if you DO get supersonic as in the gun diesels, the pellets spray all over the place and while it is faster the accuracy is gone.

Now in terms of the tree rats: I have to defdend our bird feeders from those tree rats. Them buggers are smart though.
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These are good for air targets too...ooops wrong kind of air gunner....
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