You have to be careful with Wolfgang. He knows both life at both sides of the atlantic. He grew up a few hundred miles north of where I grew up and we both ended up in Houston. There is something to say about each side of the atlantic trying to spin the news 'their way'. Neither one is correct and neither one is wrong.
Andy, as do I! I also read news in many languages from may different sources. I also follow many fact based sites, including bushwatch.com and I also follow the Israel / Palestine conflict and the ties it have with the USA+ the UN, which by some strange reasoning is looked upon by the USA as a competitor instead of what the purpose is. When the USA appointed Bolton, one of the worst persons possible to the job of US ambassador to the UN, It kind a told a major story, especially with the spin the US side had on it which have absolutely no credibility at all.
Andy, If I have one special gift than that gift is analyzing, analyzing information given and what is meant by reading in between the lines. That way I also sometimes work as a coach for coaches.
I know Wolfgang reads commentary from the right and the left side and then comes up with a MUCH better informed opinion that the average US or EU resident. Having lived and worked on both sides AND in both cultures does that to you.
Then I will say that we are two, but having seen some of his comments as he have seen mine, we obviously have a different view on things and I am quite safe to say that Wolfgang look upon these issues with a republican mindset. And I am looking at it from a liberal socialist mindset. I absolutely load the spin of that the republicans always come with, like I responded with to Wolfgang, but there it seems I was to hasty and not getting his point witch I later apologized for. And as you say, I have also lived on both sides and cultures.
Now, to paraphrase a friend of mine: They all serve Cool-Aid. One serves red cool-aid and the others serve blue cool-aid. But in the end it's still cool-aid. Neither one is better or right or wrong. And that extends not only to the current presidential candidates (which are portrait 'slightly' out of context in various EU media) but also to all the other sensitive areas. The gulf war to name one, or the intervention in Afghanistan, the french politics (which are blown out of proportion on this side of the pond) and the list goes on.
Yes it does, but it is really sad how brainwashed so many of the people on your side are. Even when there is massive proof of the Bush administration telling nothing but lies, and proof of election cheating etc, they still keep on ranting how great they are and how they are spreading democracy around the world. And when people like me and you know that the US democracy system is the worst of the whole civilized world it is kind a amazing what they keep pushing.
If anyone in modern time is gutless about standing up, it is the US Americans, just look at former communist Ukraine with general strikes when election cheating. Look at the French farmers and workers how they protest when the government make radical changes etc and look at the USA when they find out that the president have lied and given them wars that are illegal for monetary gain purposes. And what did the French do wrong? They did not support the war because they thought it was no wmd in Iraq, and guess what….. but still they keep getting the wrap for it. Stupid is what stupid does!
My suggestion: You have a somewhat unique ability, which many many Eu citizens lack, and that is to be able to communicate in a foreign language, in a way that you can make abstract thoughts known.
Use that ability and read and understand BOTH sides. You said you lived in the US for a while. Then you should be able to understand where some of the US based opinions (right or wrong) come from. Read the Norwegian, the British and the US press and then come up with YOUR OPINION instead of regurgitating what has been said on national TV in Norway. As Wolfgang showed you one can always take something out of context and present it a completely different light. (blue cool-aid)
As mentioned before I do that. What saddens me though is that you did not get that I did that before you wrote this. Although national TV in Norway is with its other news resources sharing the first place in the ranking of press freedom while Germany is on 7`th place and the USA is down at 48`th place just behind Nicaragua, it should still be regarded as a somewhat credible information provider! But I do go beyond that, far beyond that as you properly know by now and with my language skills that include 5 foreign languages I do get information from different mindsets.
The folks on this side of the pond have to try to come up with some of their own on reality based opinions as well. Because sometimes I can only shake my head at the red cool-aid and think to myself: "But of course, if you don't know it better you would believe that"
I buy that and use that in all my assessments, but if I point it out then I am either scuffed to member forums only or given a whopping because then I am anti American. In fact I like the USA a lot and it saddens me how ignorant so many people are, but what can we expect from a country who talk about freedom of speech but forget to look around if they deserve that high stand. Being on 48`th place on freedom of press is NOT something to be proud of. It is like the country is either brainwashed or censored for all news. Look at Fallujah where the USA did major war crimes and shot at everything that moved including women, children and dogs! Used illegal Phosphorous bombs
http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff11162005.html and all only because the population took revenge on some Blackwater mercenaries which prior had murdered some innocent Iraqis! NON of what really happened there came out to the USA, the whole 500 000 city was totalled in massive bombings etc. Why have the USA denied that any soldiers of the USA can be tried in the war criminal tribune in Hague? Being the only “civilized” country which don’t recognize it, in fact Clinton was one of the advocates for that court! Why was Milosevic a war criminal and Bush is not? And why did the USA join in his prosecution there if not any Americans can be prosecuted there? Freedom of speech my ass! Land of the Braves…no comments!
And everyone who thinks they can get an objective opinion from watching only one side is just another cousin Beaudraux. That applies left and right of the pond.
I agree and again it saddens met hat you thought I was only one sided, hopefully you know better now
Pentagon Admits Using Phosphorous Bombs on Fallujah
By DAVE LINDORFF
What kind of country is this?
Not only does America use grotesque chemical weapons in its "War of Liberation"--in this case white phosphorus bombs that are as nasty as anything Saddam Hussein could have dreamt up, with the ability to eat their way into a body and liquefy flesh--but our shameless leaders, when caught in the act, try to lie their way out of their own atrocious behavior.
When an Italian documentary producer released a film exposing this war crime committed in the course of the destruction of Fallujah, the honchos at the Pentagon and the White House lied through their teeth, claiming that the scenes of cascading phosphorus bombs blanketing the city, incinerating fighters and civilians alike, which were depicted clearly in the film, were just flares being used for night lighting.
Read the story for more facts... The ASK yourself, WHO is the real terrorists?
And I am sitting on loads of information like that.