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I've been nursing an inner thigh injury from November, I incurred trying to right the LT with my passenger already on, and it was leaning a bit too much and was not able to get the side stand up. I've only had this happen once due to the pitch of the space it was parked on.

My thought is, if the pillion is standing (we are not sure if that is possible yet) on the rear pegs instead of being seated, does that not lower the center of gravity and make it easier to right the bike? With all her safety gear on, she is about 165lbs or so.

One of our problems is, other than our being FUBAR'd and OTD issues, she has a difficult time getting on, after me. So far, I've been relying on the sidestand to hold the bike up until after she is on, then I get on and right the bike.

Like to hear from some short legged pillions that have resolved the problem.

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post #2 of 10 Old Feb 26th, 2008, 12:30 pm
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Re: Pillion mounting

Take this from an LT owner who has 'never' had a passenger on the pillion seat - never. However, there are several recommendations in the rider's manual about mounting/dis-mounting of passengers, as well as use of the sidestand and centerstand while doing so. You may have read these already, so apologies if so.

It sez:

"Never sit on the motorcycle with the side stand extended" (gotta admit, I've done it, butt didn't feel comfortable!!). It also sez, "for safety reasons, never sit on the motorcycle with the center stand extended." (Dang, btdt too!! - butt felt comfortable!).
"For safety reasons, do not allow your pillion passenger to mount until you have lifted the motorcycle off the side stand. The side (prop) stand must be fully retracted before the motorcycle is ridden" --- (duh!! And of course, an extended sidestand will kill the engine if the tranny is in gear).

In all the times I've been around folks riding two-up, I don't remember any passenger getting on the pillion seat before the rider had stood the bike up and was already seated. YMMV, obviously. You gotta do what you gotta do. I'm just repeating what the manual-writers printed!!! - prolly with help for the suits!


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I've been nursing an inner thigh injury from November, I incurred trying to right the LT with my passenger already on, and it was leaning a bit too much and was not able to get the side stand up. I've only had this happen once due to the pitch of the space it was parked on.

My thought is, if the pillion is standing (we are not sure if that is possible yet) on the rear pegs instead of being seated, does that not lower the center of gravity and make it easier to right the bike? With all her safety gear on, she is about 165lbs or so.

One of our problems is, other than our being FUBAR'd and OTD issues, she has a difficult time getting on, after me. So far, I've been relying on the sidestand to hold the bike up until after she is on, then I get on and right the bike.

Like to hear from some short legged pillions that have resolved the problem.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Pillion mounting

Hey Wayne-

My old lady is 5 foot nothing on a good day. After I've got bike upright, she stands with her left hand on my left shoulder, her right hand on the top case. Gets approval, then puts her left foot on the left passenger peg and steps up and through with her right. Make sense? Works well for us.

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Hey Wayne-

My old lady is 5 foot nothing on a good day. After I've got bike upright, she stands with her left hand on my left shoulder, her right hand on the top case. Gets approval, then puts her left foot on the left passenger peg and steps up and through with her right. Make sense? Works well for us.

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Same here Plus I have a backrest for me and armrest for my wife that she has to work around. Also I'm 5'8" with 29" inseam and can not flatfoot the bike. I stand up from the seat holding the bike with my legs then let Sammie get on. I've done this for 3 years without any problems.

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+1 for what Dave said...wife has been doing it that way for years.
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Well, It appears just one more lesson learned the hard way.

That being said, I can't wait for Spring........
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What Dave sed, 'cept my favorite pillion is 4'10", and complains mildly about the height of the adjusted pegs (raised them so she'd be comfortable on the road - about 1.5" higher than stock). With the powered stand, tho, if I stop to adjust something and she doesn't want to 'unhook everything' I use the center stand, then pop off it when ready. Now, if someone would come up with a ride-off stand like my R80 . . .

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Like to hear from some short legged pillions that have resolved the problem.
No problems here w/ pillion mounting or mounting pillions!

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Re: Pillion mounting

My wife has a fused right ankle so it does not move and the rear seat is a bit tall so I keep the bike on the sidestand and she tries the "high kick" method to get her foot on the seat, then she hops forward until her butt is kinda on the seat, and then gets her left foot on the peg to straighten out. She is also above the 165 pounds mentioned...but pleasant!!!!!! (whew, close one).

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Re: Pillion mounting

Now for this dismount question in a very slow moving or parked situation. Had we needed to do this, my suggestion is she was to walk or fall away, off the low side of the bike and get away from it as best she can. I have no idea whether or not that works, or if there is a right or wrong way, so if anyone that has had to dismount or go down with the bike, I would appreciate your comments.

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