Motorcycle politcal affiliation? - BMW Luxury Touring Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 59 Old Jan 11th, 2008, 8:11 pm Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
sexem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Rapid City, SD, USA
Posts: 21
Question Motorcycle politcal affiliation?

It is the political season!! What are your political tendencies? Are you a liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, independent? Where does the LT society ride, right or left?
sexem is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 59 Old Jan 11th, 2008, 8:50 pm
Member
 
excellentjim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bossier City, LA, USA
Posts: 57
Politics

Maybe we should just stay away from that subject.

Jim
-------------------
2000 Canyon Red K1200LT (new to me)
1980 Susuki 850GL (given to my brother)
excellentjim is offline  
post #3 of 59 Old Jan 11th, 2008, 8:57 pm
Senior Member
 
JATownsend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI, USA
Posts: 1,134
This thread should go directly to the "Supporting Members Only'' Forum!!

J. Averill Townsend
Bloomfield Hills, MI


IBA# 24374

2002 K1200LTC - Silver
1978 R100/7 - Very, very Black
2004 Bushtec Quantum - Silver, of course...(SOLD)

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
JATownsend is offline  
 
post #4 of 59 Old Jan 11th, 2008, 9:06 pm
Senior Member
 
grifscoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Outside New Braunfels , TX, USA
Posts: 13,451
Consider it Done!



100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

-=grif=-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Grok
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
grifscoots is offline  
post #5 of 59 Old Jan 11th, 2008, 9:31 pm
BMW Guru
 
Ted Shred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Nor Cal, , USA
Posts: 8,469
Quote:
Originally Posted by grifscoots
Consider it Done!
Don't think the OP is a supporting member. Guess he should be if he's gonna troll....

__________
2016 R1200GS Adventure
2006 DRZ400E

2007 G650 X Challenge
2006 GT200
2005 R1200GS


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Ted Shred is offline  
post #6 of 59 Old Jan 11th, 2008, 10:20 pm
IBR# 366
 
meese's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: West Linn, OR
Posts: 16,417
Garage
Seems like an innocent enough question. After all, he's only got 7 posts. He might not even know who Joe is yet.

Ken
Pacific NorthWet
'13 Dark Graphite Metallic K16GTLD, 24K miles
'09 Magnesium Beige Metallic K13GT, 63K miles
'03 Anthracite Metallic K12LTC, 66K miles
'02 Mauve Metallic K12LTC, 106K miles and sold
BMWLT#143, IBA# 366, MOA# 111996, SCMA# 24032


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Some people see the gas tank as half empty. Some see it as half full. All I care is that I know where the next tankful is coming from...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
meese is offline  
post #7 of 59 Old Jan 12th, 2008, 12:57 am
Super Moderator
 
DavidTaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
Posts: 7,565
So let me get this straight - I'm paying for the privilege to have a forum dedicated to shit like this, right? I just LOVE getting my money's worth!!!

David Taylor
San Jose, CA
2010 R1200RT Polar Metallic
AMA, BMWMOA
Booze Brother #4

The shortest distance between two points is for people who don't ride!



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
DavidTaylor is offline  
post #8 of 59 Old Jan 12th, 2008, 2:26 am
IBR# 366
 
meese's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: West Linn, OR
Posts: 16,417
Garage
Just wait, David. We've got some cool stuff coming up.

Ken
Pacific NorthWet
'13 Dark Graphite Metallic K16GTLD, 24K miles
'09 Magnesium Beige Metallic K13GT, 63K miles
'03 Anthracite Metallic K12LTC, 66K miles
'02 Mauve Metallic K12LTC, 106K miles and sold
BMWLT#143, IBA# 366, MOA# 111996, SCMA# 24032


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Some people see the gas tank as half empty. Some see it as half full. All I care is that I know where the next tankful is coming from...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
meese is offline  
post #9 of 59 Old Jan 12th, 2008, 6:47 am
Senior Member
 
NOGILLS2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hammond, LA, USA
Posts: 1,899
I guess it is one tough winter this year!

NOGILLS2


Booze Brother# 69
2003 K1200LTE "BEERBURNER" RIP 07/21/09
2006 Aluma Trailer "AFTERBURNER" SOLD
2007 ST1300ABS "Quicksilver"




To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.







To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
NOGILLS2 is offline  
post #10 of 59 Old Jan 12th, 2008, 7:34 am
Senior Member
 
grifscoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Outside New Braunfels , TX, USA
Posts: 13,451
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidTaylor
So let me get this straight - I'm paying for the privilege to have a forum dedicated to shit like this, right? I just LOVE getting my money's worth!!!
So, to break it down, and seeings how you're one of the leader's for this group, you feel we should entertain you since you paid?



100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

-=grif=-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Grok
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
grifscoots is offline  
post #11 of 59 Old Jan 12th, 2008, 11:29 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Jonesborough, TN, USA
Posts: 3,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by sexem
It is the political season!! What are your political tendencies? Are you a liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, independent? Where does the LT society ride, right or left?




Seems to me we have no alternative but to ride the exact center, right where the saddle is!

Jay Slomka
Johnson City, TN

Y2K LT Champagne Class Act


BMWMOA, AMA, IBA
jayz9705 is offline  
post #12 of 59 Old Jan 12th, 2008, 3:57 pm
BMW Guru
 
Ted Shred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Nor Cal, , USA
Posts: 8,469
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidTaylor
So let me get this straight - I'm paying for the privilege to have a forum dedicated to shit like this, right? I just LOVE getting my money's worth!!!
Would you like a refund??

__________
2016 R1200GS Adventure
2006 DRZ400E

2007 G650 X Challenge
2006 GT200
2005 R1200GS


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Ted Shred is offline  
post #13 of 59 Old Jan 12th, 2008, 4:34 pm
Senior Member
 
pkpr1998's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ringgold, GA, USA
Posts: 3,696
Let it fly!

Quote:
Originally Posted by sexem
It is the political season!! What are your political tendencies? Are you a liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, independent? Where does the LT society ride, right or left?
I am a conservative Republican, but as far as the bike, it has been down on both sides!

Brett
2003 K1200LTC SOLD
2013 K1600GTL SOLD
2018 K1600GA SOLD
2019 K1600GA Blue

North Georgia

2005 CCR-Tetons
2006 CCR-Braselton
2008 CCR-Midway
2009 CCR-Rapid City
2011 CCR-Boise
2012 CCR-Duluth
2014 CCR-Chattanooga
2015 CCR-Coeur d 'Alene


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
pkpr1998 is offline  
post #14 of 59 Old Jan 12th, 2008, 4:51 pm
Cat Herder
 
andy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Houston, TX, USA
Posts: 5,852
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidTaylor
So let me get this straight - I'm paying for the privilege to have a forum dedicated to shit like this, right? I just LOVE getting my money's worth!!!
NO. You supported the site way before we implemented this forum. NOW you have the priviledge of reading humurous threads like this whereas non supporting members cannot. But last time I checked nobody said you HAVE TO read it. The threads or the forum that is. Just ignore it, then the site is the same for you as before we implemented it. Then you just supported the site because you wanted to.

Simple, eh?
andy is offline  
post #15 of 59 Old Jan 12th, 2008, 5:45 pm
Senior Member
 
bigbear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Winnebago, IL, USA
Posts: 1,178
Quote:
Originally Posted by sexem
It is the political season!! What are your political tendencies? Are you a liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, independent? Where does the LT society ride, right or left?
I do my best to ride between the ditches, although here in Illinois the ditches may be smoother

Roy Gregersen

Ride Slow, Ride Fast, Always Ride Safe
85 K100RT sold
02 LTC DOA 9/21/14
12 R1200RT
bigbear is offline  
post #16 of 59 Old Jan 12th, 2008, 9:39 pm
Senior Member
 
grifscoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Outside New Braunfels , TX, USA
Posts: 13,451
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Shred
Would you like a refund??
UNSUBSCRIBE!



100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

-=grif=-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Grok
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
grifscoots is offline  
post #17 of 59 Old Jan 13th, 2008, 1:25 am
Super Moderator
 
DavidTaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
Posts: 7,565
Wow guys, take it easy. Try to find the sarcasm.

David Taylor
San Jose, CA
2010 R1200RT Polar Metallic
AMA, BMWMOA
Booze Brother #4

The shortest distance between two points is for people who don't ride!



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
DavidTaylor is offline  
post #18 of 59 Old Jan 13th, 2008, 9:11 am
Senior Member
 
grifscoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Outside New Braunfels , TX, USA
Posts: 13,451
Ya know how it is: blood in the water, the fins start circling, a cry in the night.....

We really need a tongue in cheek emoticon.



100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

-=grif=-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Grok
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
grifscoots is offline  
post #19 of 59 Old Jan 13th, 2008, 9:29 am
Senior Member
 
Woolly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: , Co. Durham, England
Posts: 1,492
Quote:
Originally Posted by grifscoots

We really need a tongue in cheek emoticon.


Theridion grallator

  • 2005 LT - 17 countries, 2 CONTINENTS & counting !
  • MB SLK 350 MT
  • 1974 Triumph Bonneville 750

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Woolly is offline  
post #20 of 59 Old Jan 13th, 2008, 5:42 pm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Newark, CA, USA
Posts: 302
I was always independent before Bush. He has redefined what it means to be a Republican, adopting all the things I dislike about each party. So I guess I'm Democrat ... but I'd support Ron Paul over Hillary.
CalLT is offline  
post #21 of 59 Old Jan 13th, 2008, 5:45 pm
Senior Member
 
joegottberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mooresville, NC, USA
Posts: 1,191
I'm Pretty sure now

Even with Hillary in the race, I'm still HETEROSEXUAL ! !

2005 KLT "Old Blue"

Bruno the "Bugg"


Democracy will only exist until 51% of the population believes they can live off the other 49% .
joegottberg is offline  
post #22 of 59 Old Jan 13th, 2008, 8:40 pm
Senior Member
 
omurphy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: savannah, GA, USA
Posts: 235
i've got an idea. lets be a one issue group. let's support motorcycle rights like the nra supports gun rights. even though you may not split lanes if it was legal or run a red light if it takes to long or never go without protective gear while riding lets support the group that lobbies for these things, abate. yeah a whole lot of them are h-d riders but they are for motorcyclist rights. they vote for the politicians who support their position. or at least they should vote for them. i think i'll join in two week at their frosty balls poker run membership drive on the 27th of december. that's my two cents and, i'm sticking by it. omurphy yeah sometimes h-d riders don't wave at me either. and sometime i don't wave at other riders. maybe i don't see them in time or maybe i'm in a tight situation maneuvering or maybe i'm just plane tired. so what if some riders are snobbish. it's no skin off of my nose. you can alway flip 'em off. lighten up.
omurphy is offline  
post #23 of 59 Old Jan 14th, 2008, 7:35 am
Senior Member
 
zippy_gg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennesaw, GA, USA
Posts: 8,115
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by omurphy
i've got an idea. lets be a one issue group. let's support motorcycle rights like the nra supports gun rights.
Isn't it what the AMA does??? Reminds me to join both (NRA and AMA)...

Gilles & Kathy
BMWMOA# 154719
IBA# 71594
2011 Ostra Gray RT
06 Mercedes-Benz E350 Estate (parts and people hauler)
2012 BMW X3 (parts and people hauler)
86 Porsche 911 Cabriolet (my "new" baby)



For her I climbed the highest mountain!
For her I swam across the deepest ocean!
For her I walked through the largest desert!
And then she left me... She said I was never home!!!


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
zippy_gg is offline  
post #24 of 59 Old Jan 14th, 2008, 9:17 am
Senior Member
 
c00k1e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Powys, , Wales & Cuba
Posts: 1,876
Quote:
Originally Posted by sexem
It is the political season!! What are your political tendencies? Are you a liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, independent? Where does the LT society ride, right or left?
I'm a communist - is that illegal in your country? ;-)

"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" Mark Twain


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
c00k1e is offline  
post #25 of 59 Old Jan 14th, 2008, 2:19 pm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Newark, CA, USA
Posts: 302
Quote:
Originally Posted by c00k1e
I'm a communist - is that illegal in your country? ;-)
Interesting question. It may not be ILLEGAL, strictly speaking, but under the current administration, your civil rights may be in jeopardy, and you could end up in some sort of rendition program. These are scarey times in the good ol' land of the "free."
CalLT is offline  
post #26 of 59 Old Jan 14th, 2008, 2:55 pm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Greenville, SC, USA
Posts: 2,397
Quote:
Originally Posted by omurphy
i've got an idea. lets be a one issue group. let's support motorcycle rights like the nra supports gun rights. even though you may not split lanes if it was legal or run a red light if it takes to long or never go without protective gear while riding lets support the group that lobbies for these things, abate. yeah a whole lot of them are h-d riders but they are for motorcyclist rights. they vote for the politicians who support their position. or at least they should vote for them. i think i'll join in two week at their frosty balls poker run membership drive on the 27th of december. that's my two cents and, i'm sticking by it. omurphy yeah sometimes h-d riders don't wave at me either. and sometime i don't wave at other riders. maybe i don't see them in time or maybe i'm in a tight situation maneuvering or maybe i'm just plane tired. so what if some riders are snobbish. it's no skin off of my nose. you can alway flip 'em off. lighten up.
I'm not even sure this is true, but I think it is ... the one big issue I see that ABATE supports (but never sez so) is their right to make all the noise they want. No thanks. I am a lifetime AMA member.

- Bob

Cowboy Bob Menton
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Greenville SC USA
'07 K1200GT, '69 R60US (mint!)
'83 R80S (nee '83 R80RT)
"You can never escape the FOG (Fast Old Guys)"
bob_menton is offline  
post #27 of 59 Old Jan 14th, 2008, 4:40 pm
Senior Member
 
Lopaca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA, USA
Posts: 412
Too Frustrated with either Party to Care

Our 2 political parties require too much energy to frustration ratio for me to be able to clearly define either. Most of my life I was republican. Then the religious right bought the GOP and started running it. So, I went democrat only to find out that they don't have the guts to get anything done, let alone tell the American people what it is they plan on not being able to get done.

Signed,

Confused and Frustrated.

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." - Declaration of Independence
<center>
Lopaca is offline  
post #28 of 59 Old Jan 14th, 2008, 4:53 pm
Senior Member
 
Woolly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: , Co. Durham, England
Posts: 1,492
Quote:
Originally Posted by c00k1e
I'm a communist )
I'm an agnostic - both religiously and politically - either way, I know people are gonna try and ram their doctrines down my throat and try to charge me for the privilege.

  • 2005 LT - 17 countries, 2 CONTINENTS & counting !
  • MB SLK 350 MT
  • 1974 Triumph Bonneville 750

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Woolly is offline  
post #29 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 6:20 am
Senior Member
 
c00k1e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Powys, , Wales & Cuba
Posts: 1,876
I'm really an agnostic, dislecsic, insomniac.
I often lie awake at night wondering if there is a dog..........

"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" Mark Twain


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
c00k1e is offline  
post #30 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 6:27 am
Senior Member
 
c00k1e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Powys, , Wales & Cuba
Posts: 1,876
Quote:
Originally Posted by CalLT
Interesting question. It may not be ILLEGAL, strictly speaking, but under the current administration, your civil rights may be in jeopardy, and you could end up in some sort of rendition program. These are scarey times in the good ol' land of the "free."
I guess that is the thing I find unfathomable about the USA.
When I look at the individual people I have met from the US and the people I have spoken to on line - they are the most informed, open, salt of the earth good 'ol people you would really be pleased to know and accept into your home and go out of you way for.
But when you look at the outcomes of their polititians....well, I dare not say.
Just donlt make sence.
Maybe you need another revolution

"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" Mark Twain


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
c00k1e is offline  
post #31 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 8:40 am
Senior Member
 
grifscoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Outside New Braunfels , TX, USA
Posts: 13,451
Quote:
Originally Posted by c00k1e
I guess that is the thing I find unfathomable about the USA.
When I look at the individual people I have met from the US and the people I have spoken to on line - they are the most informed, open, salt of the earth good 'ol people you would really be pleased to know and accept into your home and go out of you way for.
But when you look at the outcomes of their polititians....well, I dare not say.
Just donlt make sence.
Maybe you need another revolution
Yeppir. The politicians are so out of touch with the people that it's no longer funny. They're usually very wealthy and politics have become their profession. I say it often and loud that the professional politician needs to go away and regular folks, cops, teachers, plumbers, mechanics, etc. need to govern us. Also, our country is not run like a business. There isn't a bank in the country that would lend the US money on our P&L statement. Our great-great grandchildren will be paying for the fiscal mess these yahoo's are making. It just sickens me.

Signed, waiting for the day the black helicopters arrive.



100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

-=grif=-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Grok
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
grifscoots is offline  
post #32 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 9:04 am
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 469
At least you get to chuck your President out after 8 years max. In the UK we are stuck with an 'anointed son' whom no-one stood against in any form of democratic process. Not only that, he's a bean counter! Unless we chuck out the whole party we can't get rid of the leader - chuck the bathwater out with the baby perhaps?

Personally I veer left and I veer right depending on the road, and I'm not that interested in running straight down the middle - boring!
brianbeemer is offline  
post #33 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 9:59 am
Senior Member
 
c00k1e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Powys, , Wales & Cuba
Posts: 1,876
Quote:
Originally Posted by brianbeemer
At least you get to chuck your President out after 8 years max. In the UK we are stuck with an 'anointed son' whom no-one stood against in any form of democratic process. Not only that, he's a bean counter! Unless we chuck out the whole party we can't get rid of the leader - chuck the bathwater out with the baby perhaps?

Personally I veer left and I veer right depending on the road, and I'm not that interested in running straight down the middle - boring!
I have hated the last few PMs here.
Problem is, the alternative is what seems to happen in the US, where the last term of the Pres, is one he is not bothered about what people think of him.
The only power people have over a leader is voting them out. If they are on the way out anyway - they don't care!
Mind you, in a dictatorship, a leader does not have to worry about lieing to get voted in but he has to worry big time about loosing power - then he gets killed! So actually, people have to be kept sweet during power of a dictator as opposed to a polititian keeping his people sweet till after he is voted in.
hmmmmm maybe I am a commie after all!!

"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" Mark Twain


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
c00k1e is offline  
post #34 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 11:48 am
IBR# 366
 
meese's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: West Linn, OR
Posts: 16,417
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by c00k1e
Maybe you need another revolution
Seriously. But that's no longer the American way. We'd rather be sipping our $6 White Chocolate Mocha Frappuccino with extra cream while driving a gas guzzling Suburban and searching for a 3-story 6-bedroom summer home on the beach so that we can entertain our snooty neighbors by showing off how much stuff we've collected (never mind the insurmountable debt . . .). We're a nation that believes we deserve all these things cause we're better than anyone else, so why should we bother with what's going on in the rest of the world, or in or own government?

Yes, our career politicians are completely disconnected with the real world, but then again, so are most Americans. Or is that too unpatriotic? Save me a seat on that chopper, Grif.

Ken
Pacific NorthWet
'13 Dark Graphite Metallic K16GTLD, 24K miles
'09 Magnesium Beige Metallic K13GT, 63K miles
'03 Anthracite Metallic K12LTC, 66K miles
'02 Mauve Metallic K12LTC, 106K miles and sold
BMWLT#143, IBA# 366, MOA# 111996, SCMA# 24032


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Some people see the gas tank as half empty. Some see it as half full. All I care is that I know where the next tankful is coming from...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
meese is offline  
post #35 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 12:36 pm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Newark, CA, USA
Posts: 302
Quote:
Originally Posted by c00k1e
I have hated the last few PMs here.
Problem is, the alternative is what seems to happen in the US, where the last term of the Pres, is one he is not bothered about what people think of him.
The only power people have over a leader is voting them out. If they are on the way out anyway - they don't care!
Mind you, in a dictatorship, a leader does not have to worry about lieing to get voted in but he has to worry big time about loosing power - then he gets killed! So actually, people have to be kept sweet during power of a dictator as opposed to a polititian keeping his people sweet till after he is voted in.
hmmmmm maybe I am a commie after all!!
The problem as I see it is that Americans don't seem to have any interest in ISSUES. It is much more convenient to vote along party lines, and to let Rush Limbaugh or Al Franken do your thinking for you. I can't count the times that I've read blather on this list that parrots the latest Bill O'Reilley rant.

O'Reilley really is an idiot, as is Al Franken, and they are growing rich off the lemmings that can't be bothered to think for themselves. What is required for this country to advance is that we do what is best for AMERICA ... and leave the party rhetoric to Ted Kennedy and Dick Cheney.
CalLT is offline  
post #36 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 1:44 pm
Senior Member
 
grifscoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Outside New Braunfels , TX, USA
Posts: 13,451
Quote:
Originally Posted by meese
Save me a seat on that chopper, Grif.
When the time comes, I don't think we'll have a choice. Oh, and it's coming. The subtle erosion of freedom is heading us that way. When they disarm us, the police state will be a reality. Look at Homeland Security, all the listening in and camera's. Maybe it's already here and they're just not bothering with us fat, old men who ride BMW's.



100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

-=grif=-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Grok
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
grifscoots is offline  
post #37 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 4:29 pm
Senior Member
 
pkpr1998's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ringgold, GA, USA
Posts: 3,696
True, true

Quote:
Originally Posted by meese
Seriously. But that's no longer the American way. We'd rather be sipping our $6 White Chocolate Mocha Frappuccino with extra cream while driving a gas guzzling Suburban and searching for a 3-story 6-bedroom summer home on the beach so that we can entertain our snooty neighbors by showing off how much stuff we've collected (never mind the insurmountable debt . . .). We're a nation that believes we deserve all these things cause we're better than anyone else, so why should we bother with what's going on in the rest of the world, or in or own government?

Yes, our career politicians are completely disconnected with the real world, but then again, so are most Americans. Or is that too unpatriotic? Save me a seat on that chopper, Grif.
NOW THAT'S A GOOD ONE!

I drink free coffee at the office, buy Maxwell House when it is on sale, don't have the Suburban, don't have the 3-Story House, main house or vacation, don't carry much debt and I stay away from those snooty friends!

Thanks for the good post Ken.

Oh yeah, I don't think that the chopper would pick me up anyway

Brett
2003 K1200LTC SOLD
2013 K1600GTL SOLD
2018 K1600GA SOLD
2019 K1600GA Blue

North Georgia

2005 CCR-Tetons
2006 CCR-Braselton
2008 CCR-Midway
2009 CCR-Rapid City
2011 CCR-Boise
2012 CCR-Duluth
2014 CCR-Chattanooga
2015 CCR-Coeur d 'Alene


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
pkpr1998 is offline  
post #38 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 4:36 pm
BMW Guru
 
Ted Shred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Nor Cal, , USA
Posts: 8,469
Quote:
Originally Posted by meese
Seriously. But that's no longer the American way. We'd rather be sipping our $6 White Chocolate Mocha Frappuccino with extra cream while driving a gas guzzling Suburban and searching for a 3-story 6-bedroom summer home on the beach so that we can entertain our snooty neighbors by showing off how much stuff we've collected (never mind the insurmountable debt . . .). We're a nation that believes we deserve all these things cause we're better than anyone else, so why should we bother with what's going on in the rest of the world, or in or own government?

Yes, our career politicians are completely disconnected with the real world, but then again, so are most Americans. Or is that too unpatriotic? Save me a seat on that chopper, Grif.
There is nothing wrong with wanting or having all that stuff. I don't think it has anything to do with the apathy of the American voter. People that are living check to check are just as indifferent to what's going on in Washington as those that can afford the vacation home. That's the problem.

I think our government has gotten so large and so out of hand that most people think there's nothing they as individuals can do about it.

__________
2016 R1200GS Adventure
2006 DRZ400E

2007 G650 X Challenge
2006 GT200
2005 R1200GS


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Ted Shred is offline  
post #39 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 4:55 pm
Senior Member
 
Woolly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: , Co. Durham, England
Posts: 1,492
Loved it the other day when I heard that a lot of FBI wire-taps had been lost because the phone companies disconnected them (the FBI) for non-payment of bills.

  • 2005 LT - 17 countries, 2 CONTINENTS & counting !
  • MB SLK 350 MT
  • 1974 Triumph Bonneville 750

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Woolly is offline  
post #40 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 5:04 pm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Greenville, SC, USA
Posts: 2,397
Quote:
Originally Posted by brianbeemer
At least you get to chuck your President out after 8 years max. In the UK we are stuck with an 'anointed son' whom no-one stood against in any form of democratic process. Not only that, he's a bean counter! Unless we chuck out the whole party we can't get rid of the leader - chuck the bathwater out with the baby perhaps?

Personally I veer left and I veer right depending on the road, and I'm not that interested in running straight down the middle - boring!
OK, Brian, but in the UK don't you also get a chance to get rid of the yahoos running the gov't on a vote of "no confidence"? And isn't the UK electoral process MUCH shorter than the drawn-out mess we have in The Colonies?

- Bob

Cowboy Bob Menton
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Greenville SC USA
'07 K1200GT, '69 R60US (mint!)
'83 R80S (nee '83 R80RT)
"You can never escape the FOG (Fast Old Guys)"
bob_menton is offline  
post #41 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 6:47 pm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Newark, CA, USA
Posts: 302
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Shred
I think our government has gotten so large and so out of hand that most people think there's nothing they as individuals can do about it.
Don't think so. People know about the vote. They know they have the power. They choose not to exercise it, for whatever reason.

I hope this is changing. There has been a rather high regional turnout this year, especially among young people. I hope the trend continues for the general election. If so, I think Obama will win. A very good thing.
CalLT is offline  
post #42 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 8:58 pm
Senior Member
 
omurphy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: savannah, GA, USA
Posts: 235
Quote:
Originally Posted by c00k1e
I guess that is the thing I find unfathomable about the USA.
When I look at the individual people I have met from the US and the people I have spoken to on line - they are the most informed, open, salt of the earth good 'ol people you would really be pleased to know and accept into your home and go out of you way for.
But when you look at the outcomes of their polititians....well, I dare not say.
Just donlt make sence.
Maybe you need another revolution
now you're going in the terrorist direction. not a good idea.
omurphy is offline  
post #43 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 9:48 pm
IBR# 366
 
meese's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: West Linn, OR
Posts: 16,417
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Shred
There is nothing wrong with wanting or having all that stuff.
No, there's nothing wrong with wanting that stuff, and working for it. The problem is that there is a huge sense of entitlement here. We deserve all that stuff, and we want it all now. All the adverts tell us that over and over again. It's gone way beyond reason, and most folks are so focused on their own little bubble that they can't be bothered to care about anything outside.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Shred
I think our government has gotten so large and so out of hand that most people think there's nothing they as individuals can do about it.
Unfortunately, that's also true. Those in power are simply the ones most adept at staying in power. "For the People, By the People" has been subsumed by "For me, screw the rest" by both our "leaders" and ourselves for far too long.

Ah well, think I'll just go for a nice, long ride instead.

Ken
Pacific NorthWet
'13 Dark Graphite Metallic K16GTLD, 24K miles
'09 Magnesium Beige Metallic K13GT, 63K miles
'03 Anthracite Metallic K12LTC, 66K miles
'02 Mauve Metallic K12LTC, 106K miles and sold
BMWLT#143, IBA# 366, MOA# 111996, SCMA# 24032


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Some people see the gas tank as half empty. Some see it as half full. All I care is that I know where the next tankful is coming from...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
meese is offline  
post #44 of 59 Old Jan 15th, 2008, 9:56 pm
IBR# 366
 
meese's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: West Linn, OR
Posts: 16,417
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by omurphy
now you're going in the terrorist direction. not a good idea.
Questioning your government, holding them accountable for their actions, and rewarding them (by voting in again) or punishing them (by voting out or impeaching) is what this country was founded on. That is patriotic.

Terrorists use fear and confusion to further their own agenda at the expense of all others, and against their will. They don't play by any set of rules, and will do whatever it takes to pursue their own goals, be it spying, repression, bullying, torture, or killing thousands of innocent bystanders. That sounds an awful lot like our current administration to me . . .

Ken
Pacific NorthWet
'13 Dark Graphite Metallic K16GTLD, 24K miles
'09 Magnesium Beige Metallic K13GT, 63K miles
'03 Anthracite Metallic K12LTC, 66K miles
'02 Mauve Metallic K12LTC, 106K miles and sold
BMWLT#143, IBA# 366, MOA# 111996, SCMA# 24032


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Some people see the gas tank as half empty. Some see it as half full. All I care is that I know where the next tankful is coming from...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
meese is offline  
post #45 of 59 Old Jan 16th, 2008, 4:09 am
Senior Member
 
c00k1e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Powys, , Wales & Cuba
Posts: 1,876
Quote:
Originally Posted by meese
Questioning your government, holding them accountable for their actions, and rewarding them (by voting in again) or punishing them (by voting out or impeaching) is what this country was founded on. That is patriotic.

Terrorists use fear and confusion to further their own agenda at the expense of all others, and against their will. They don't play by any set of rules, and will do whatever it takes to pursue their own goals, be it spying, repression, bullying, torture, or killing thousands of innocent bystanders. That sounds an awful lot like our current administration to me . . .
Won't you get sent to Cuba for that?
And not the nice part either!
I have to pay to go to Cuba!!

"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" Mark Twain


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
c00k1e is offline  
post #46 of 59 Old Jan 16th, 2008, 4:45 am
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 469
Quote:
Originally Posted by CalLT
The problem as I see it is that Americans don't seem to have any interest in ISSUES. It is much more convenient to vote along party lines, and to let Rush Limbaugh or Al Franken do your thinking for you. I can't count the times that I've read blather on this list that parrots the latest Bill O'Reilley rant.

O'Reilley really is an idiot, as is Al Franken, and they are growing rich off the lemmings that can't be bothered to think for themselves. What is required for this country to advance is that we do what is best for AMERICA ... and leave the party rhetoric to Ted Kennedy and Dick Cheney.
Try this for size.... http://glassbooth.org/ You may be surprised (or maybe not?) ANyway, it asks you about your issue priorities, not your political affiliation, or even if you can't stand Hillary!

As to our electoral process, I don't think there's any way to impeach our PM and getting enough ordinary people together to get a vote of no confidence in the government is a distant dream. Only the politicians can vote each other out, and they won't do that because they might just lose their own jobs! The short election process is better than yours - we don't have as long to listen to all the mud-slinging and name calling......

Last edited by brianbeemer; Jan 16th, 2008 at 8:47 am.
brianbeemer is offline  
post #47 of 59 Old Jan 16th, 2008, 6:42 am
Senior Member
 
c00k1e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Powys, , Wales & Cuba
Posts: 1,876
That site looks fun - aparently I would be voting for a democrat called
Mike Gravel

Never heard of him mind you.

"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" Mark Twain


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
c00k1e is offline  
post #48 of 59 Old Jan 16th, 2008, 10:20 am
Senior Member
 
joegottberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mooresville, NC, USA
Posts: 1,191
I'm Fairly Consistent

My wife gave me a different test and it came up Thomson, Romney, McCain.

This one was Romney, Huckabee and Rudy.

Before any testing, I had a Romney lean, I know that can be fixed with a good dose

2005 KLT "Old Blue"

Bruno the "Bugg"


Democracy will only exist until 51% of the population believes they can live off the other 49% .
joegottberg is offline  
post #49 of 59 Old Jan 16th, 2008, 9:48 pm
Senior Member
 
BMWphreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Putnam, CT, USA
Posts: 1,435
Quote:
Originally Posted by meese
Seriously. But that's no longer the American way. We'd rather be sipping our $6 White Chocolate Mocha Frappuccino with extra cream while driving a gas guzzling Suburban and searching for a 3-story 6-bedroom summer home on the beach so that we can entertain our snooty neighbors by showing off how much stuff we've collected (never mind the insurmountable debt . . .). We're a nation that believes we deserve all these things cause we're better than anyone else, so why should we bother with what's going on in the rest of the world, or in or own government?

Yes, our career politicians are completely disconnected with the real world, but then again, so are most Americans. Or is that too unpatriotic? Save me a seat on that chopper, Grif.

Hell, I identify more with you than anyone in the presidential race... you've got my vote!

'07 - R1200RT Slippery Silver

MOA #107139
RA #28511

Past rides:
'03 R1150RT - MAXed out
'03 K1200LTC - Gone to the Darko side
'00 Kawasaki Concours - Buzz
'71 Honda SL350 - The original dual-sport
'72 Kawasaki 250 triple - The smoking gun
'67 Montgomery Wards 125 - Thrashed to death
BMWphreak is offline  
post #50 of 59 Old Jan 17th, 2008, 3:47 am
Senior Member
 
c00k1e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Powys, , Wales & Cuba
Posts: 1,876
meese for presedent '08

Or is it too late?!

"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" Mark Twain


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
c00k1e is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the BMW Luxury Touring Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How true these are! robasay Humor 0 Oct 11th, 2007 10:09 pm
Motorcycle Airbags Part of Safety Trend hagar Bike Talk 9 Sep 16th, 2006 1:38 am

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome