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12K Service (Assistance)
Well I have come to a few hundred miles of the 12K mark and I would like to perform the 12K service before my trip to Myrtle Beach on May 16th. I am fairly handy and feel I can do the service myself and save the outrageous cost of having the dealer do it.
So the question, Are there any members that have performed the service available to lend a hand say May 11th (evening), 12th or 13th? I live in Manchester, MD and have a fridge full of frosty beverages and a grill out back for when the belly starts to rumble.
Also, what do I need to have on hand?
So far my list of stuff I need is:
oil
oil filter
air filter
gear oil
rear drive oil
spark plugs
What am I missing? Do I need to buy "shims" for the valves if they are out of spec?
I will have the dealer do the Brake portion of the service, so no worries there.
Thanks in advance!
So the question, Are there any members that have performed the service available to lend a hand say May 11th (evening), 12th or 13th? I live in Manchester, MD and have a fridge full of frosty beverages and a grill out back for when the belly starts to rumble.
Also, what do I need to have on hand?
So far my list of stuff I need is:
oil
oil filter
air filter
gear oil
rear drive oil
spark plugs
What am I missing? Do I need to buy "shims" for the valves if they are out of spec?
I will have the dealer do the Brake portion of the service, so no worries there.
Thanks in advance!
-Ekim
2005 K1200LT (R.I.P.)
Manchester, MD
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Some of these are "comsumables" but you need them anyway:
Cable Ties
Oil Filter Wrench
Dielectric grease
Fuel Filter
Hex drive for the transmission drain (14mm ?)
Crush washers (dealer calls them sealing washers/rings)
I'm sure l'll think of more just after I post this message, but it's a start.
Others will chime in with what we've forgotten.
Cable Ties
Oil Filter Wrench
Dielectric grease
Fuel Filter
Hex drive for the transmission drain (14mm ?)
Crush washers (dealer calls them sealing washers/rings)
I'm sure l'll think of more just after I post this message, but it's a start.
Others will chime in with what we've forgotten.
Bill McAllister
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Other items
Some of the tools required from memory:
I suspect you have these but did not think it would offend you to remind you of what is needed.
Torx Bit for Valve Cover Bolts (possibly hex bit?)
Torque Wrench(s) for valve cover bolts and or cams if your valves require adjustment.
Metric open end wrench to hold cams while removing and installing drive sprockets. Size 16 or 17mm (I think)
Metric sockets to remove cam bearing caps and drive sprocket(s)
feeler gauges for valve clearance check
metric hex bits (allen wrenches) for oil filter cover and drain plugs as noted earlier.
Last but not least PATIENCE
not a difficult procedure just time consuming.
Do you have the brass quick disconnects in your fuel lines?
I am sure I have missed some but this should get you started.
I suspect you have these but did not think it would offend you to remind you of what is needed.
Torx Bit for Valve Cover Bolts (possibly hex bit?)
Torque Wrench(s) for valve cover bolts and or cams if your valves require adjustment.
Metric open end wrench to hold cams while removing and installing drive sprockets. Size 16 or 17mm (I think)
Metric sockets to remove cam bearing caps and drive sprocket(s)
feeler gauges for valve clearance check
metric hex bits (allen wrenches) for oil filter cover and drain plugs as noted earlier.
Last but not least PATIENCE
not a difficult procedure just time consuming.
Do you have the brass quick disconnects in your fuel lines?
I am sure I have missed some but this should get you started.
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I would be very happy to come up and help you out!!!
I am down here in Monkton in northern Baltimore County and have the service videos, assorted tools, bits, filter wrench, funny looking funnel, etc. Let me know what night and I'll come up. I get off work at 2:30 so I can do about any time. I recommend Mobil 1 or any other synthetic rear drive and tranny fluid. Motor oil is up to you, 20W50 is called for. I need an oil change myself!
The dielectric grease is for the electrical connections. It is better known as Permatex Tune-up Grease at any auto parts store. I recommend that you have some masking tape so that we can tape the scews to the fairing near the holes that they go in. Makes re-assembly much easier!
You need a feeler gauge for the valves which I can't seem to find. At 12K I doubt if you're out of specs.
My daughter is home from college so I need to get out of the house!
Dave
I am down here in Monkton in northern Baltimore County and have the service videos, assorted tools, bits, filter wrench, funny looking funnel, etc. Let me know what night and I'll come up. I get off work at 2:30 so I can do about any time. I recommend Mobil 1 or any other synthetic rear drive and tranny fluid. Motor oil is up to you, 20W50 is called for. I need an oil change myself!
The dielectric grease is for the electrical connections. It is better known as Permatex Tune-up Grease at any auto parts store. I recommend that you have some masking tape so that we can tape the scews to the fairing near the holes that they go in. Makes re-assembly much easier!
You need a feeler gauge for the valves which I can't seem to find. At 12K I doubt if you're out of specs.
My daughter is home from college so I need to get out of the house!
Dave
Dave
Monkton, MD
and Pawleys Island, SC
2002 K1200LTC
Last edited by Daman858; May 5th, 2007 at 7:47 pm.
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To "shim" the valves, you must REPLACE the 'bucket' with the correct size.
First you check the exact "clearance", then remove the cam(s) and pull bucket to be replaced. Sometime you can move the buckets on the motor to other locations and be within "tolerance".. might not need to "replace" the bucket... Each motor is different, so check clearance on ALL then remove one cam at a time.. don't forget to follow the steps and keep the timing chain on the sprockets!!!!! Re-timing this motor is NOT something you WANT to do..
To check bucket size, look on the inside.. it's stamped there.
Once you KNOW what you need, go over to your dealer and buy the correct one(s)... they will probably have to order the specifics you want/need.
If you contact local LT owners, you may find a "selection" of buckets you could trade with them... that works here most of the time..
First you check the exact "clearance", then remove the cam(s) and pull bucket to be replaced. Sometime you can move the buckets on the motor to other locations and be within "tolerance".. might not need to "replace" the bucket... Each motor is different, so check clearance on ALL then remove one cam at a time.. don't forget to follow the steps and keep the timing chain on the sprockets!!!!! Re-timing this motor is NOT something you WANT to do..
To check bucket size, look on the inside.. it's stamped there.
Once you KNOW what you need, go over to your dealer and buy the correct one(s)... they will probably have to order the specifics you want/need.
If you contact local LT owners, you may find a "selection" of buckets you could trade with them... that works here most of the time..
...............
J.M.J...
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Thanks!
Thanks for all the advise...this really helps.
Dave, I am going to PM you with my number so we can arrange a time to meet up.
I'm also off work at 2:30, so if you think we can do it in an evening I'm cool with that as well.
Dave, I am going to PM you with my number so we can arrange a time to meet up.
I'm also off work at 2:30, so if you think we can do it in an evening I'm cool with that as well.
-Ekim
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Manchester, MD
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You do not need to pull the tank since the air and fuel filter are not due to be changed until 24k.
Mike Trevelino
Williamsburg, VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtrevelino
You do not need to pull the tank since the air and fuel filter are not due to be changed until 24k.
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Oh really?
Mike Trevelino
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It is right here.
Look closely at the chart.
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Air filter "-check-" 
-Ekim
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I can put my lift on the trailer and bring it up Friday afternoon. Just say the word and I'm there. Makes it a lot easier to do the oil and trans. I've got shocks on order, which I'll be doing at my 48K in 2500 miles.
Dave
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I can put my lift on the trailer and bring it up Friday afternoon. Just say the word and I'm there.
Let me know and I'll have a steak ready for you as well 
-Ekim
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Thanks for the offer, but I have scheduled Thursday evening with Dave from Monkton. You are more than welcome to ride on up Thursday evening and lend a hand! Let me know and I'll have a steak ready for you as well
Let me know and I'll have a steak ready for you as well Dave
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Thanks Dave H. I sent you a PM with the details.
-Ekim
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Well, two oil changes, two final drive changes, a tranny fluid change, plugs, air filter, valve check, several beverages consumed and Dave E. and Dave H. left Mike with an oily garage floor and a bunch of tupperware to try to figure out how to put back together. Another successful small scale tech session.
Thanks, Mike, for your hospitality!
Thanks, Mike, for your hospitality!
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and Pawleys Island, SC
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Well, two oil changes, two final drive changes, a tranny fluid change, plugs, air filter, valve check, several beverages consumed and Dave E. and Dave H. left Mike with an oily garage floor and a bunch of tupperware to try to figure out how to put back together. Another successful small scale tech session.
Thanks, Mike, for your hospitality!
Thanks, Mike, for your hospitality!
I assured her I could get it all back together and that the hard part was done! Here are a few pics:
Dave H. pulling more and more tupperware off.
She looks much smaller without all the dressing!
Dave E. Working on his LT
Thanks again for all your help guys and the use of the tools the I didnt have. I will be better prepared next time and agree with Dave H. "I will never do another 12K without a lift"
Dave E., I hope you didnt get too wet on the ride home!
-Ekim
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Well, two oil changes, two final drive changes, a tranny fluid change, plugs, air filter, valve check, several beverages consumed and Dave E. and Dave H. left Mike with an oily garage floor and a bunch of tupperware to try to figure out how to put back together. Another successful small scale tech session.
Thanks, Mike, for your hospitality!
Thanks, Mike, for your hospitality!
Suggestion/tip: thanks to Dave Moore from several years ago; drop by Wal-Mart and in the pet section, grab a 24-count package of puppy training pads. They're GREAT for catching and holding the fluid spillage during changes. Won't make a mess on the garage floor, and if you use Nitrile mechanics gloves, you and the garage floor will be so clean when you're through, the wife will swear you've been faking wrenching, just to get out of your honey-do list!!!
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Dick,
Sounds like a great idea...thanks for the tip!
Sounds like a great idea...thanks for the tip!
-Ekim
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Chrisse-sakes!
I gotta loose some weight.........I look like a beached whale ......or a beached LT!
I didn't get too wet but the lighting was kinda scary!
I gotta loose some weight.........I look like a beached whale ......or a beached LT!
I didn't get too wet but the lighting was kinda scary!
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and Pawleys Island, SC
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Chrisse-sakes!
I gotta loose some weight.........I look like a beached whale ......or a beached LT!
I didn't get too wet but the lighting was kinda scary!
I gotta loose some weight.........I look like a beached whale ......or a beached LT!
I didn't get too wet but the lighting was kinda scary!
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Dallas' Northern Suburbs
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Tony, the Krispy Creme store near me closed down! Do you believe it? But, a Dunkin Donuts just opened up even closer to the house!
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I've never much cared for KK and couldn't understand all the commotion. IMHO, Dunkin' Donuts is much better (and thusly more "dangerous").
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Thanks again for all your help guys and the use of the tools the I didnt have. I will be better prepared next time and agree with Dave H. "I will never do another 12K without a lift"
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LOL! Nah...I think I'm good with just the plain ol "Whine"
-Ekim
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