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Track Day on an LT

What are you nuts????? No way is my fat lady going on the track- if I fell it would crush me. Trust me- it's tried it before.

Over Labor Day weekend, I took my R1150R on the Poconos Raceway FUSA track and had a great time with her. That's right NASCAR fans- THAT Poconos Raceway.



Of course, the R sucked on track but it was powered just right so that I could maneuver through the turns as I learned about taking apexes and body positioning. I had a great time and learned how to better use my body to lean the bike into turns. I was bitten by
the Track Bug.

When I got home, I knew I needed a track bike. A few days later, I traded my rough and tumble R1150R for a super clean Yamaha FZ1. BIG DIFFERENCE!!! Last weekend, here is a pic of me going 153 on the New York Safety Track.


Crappy pic I know.

NY Safety Track

Sure, the bike flies through the straights but I 'm still learning through the twisties. I averaged in the mid70-80s all day long. My last run of the day was really smooth and effortless! Of course, my legs were killing me all day on Monday. A real race suit is on order for my fat ass.

I was hoping to get to SMR next week but instead I'm heading down to Summit Point for another track day. I'm in training to keep up with Brett on the Cherohola in April.

If you haven't done a track day- get to one. Not to go fast but to better understand how to control your bike better. As the coaches tell you, speed only comes from doing all the little things right. Anyone can crack open the throttle, carrying speed through a turn is where the fun begins!

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Saw an LT rider taking a track course at Barber Motorsports a few years ago. Looked like he was having a blast.

I've been wanting to take one, especially now after listening to a lecture from the Yamaha Riding School. Seems a number of things that I thought was true, like get all your breaking done before the turn, is not necessarily true.

For my first course, think I'll find a school with bike provided.


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I've always wanted to do a track day, and since the LT is all I have it would be on that. Sounds like you had a blast, Rob.

Skipping SMFR for another track day......?

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I've always wanted to do a track day, and since the LT is all I have it would be on that. Sounds like you had a blast, Rob.

Skipping SMFR for another track day......?
If you do it on the LT remove the center stand & lower the tire pressure 3 to 5 psi.

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If you do it on the LT remove the center stand & lower the tire pressure 3 to 5 psi.
I read somewhere you also need to remove the mirrors, tape over lights, put safety wire on drain plugs, etc. Sounds like a lot of work. Maybe better to rent a track bike.

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I read somewhere you also need to remove the mirrors, tape over lights, put safety wire on drain plugs, etc. Sounds like a lot of work. Maybe better to rent a track bike.
Remove the mirrors- hell mine fall off every time I hit a pothole.

Tape the lights- yup

tape reflectors and disconnect tail lamp- yup.

Had not heard about the safety wire.

It takes about 15 minutes to do the above. We used the blue painters tape. No problem!

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A track day on an LT is fine. Sure does teach you about the limits of the bike, and your own limits as well . . .

We had to tape over or remove mirrors, and tape over all lights (including tail light). We were also supposed to change out coolant out with Water Wetter or Engine Ice (coolant on the track due to a crash can get very slippery and cause others to crash). I did change mine out, but they never did check, and I never did crash.

I had a blast.


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LT lower the tire pressure 3 to 5 psi.
?? low the pressure by 3 to 5 psi, or lower tire pressure to 3 to 5 psi ??

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A track day on an LT is fine. Sure does teach you about the limits of the bike, and your own limits as well . . .

We had to tape over or remove mirrors, and tape over all lights (including tail light). We were also supposed to change out coolant out with Water Wetter or Engine Ice (coolant on the track due to a crash can get very slippery and cause others to crash). I did change mine out, but they never did check, and I never did crash.

I had a blast.

Go "Mauve"!!!

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?? low the pressure by 3 to 5 psi, or lower tire pressure to 3 to 5 psi ??
Most of us use 42 psi front & 48 psi rear for better tire mileage & dropping the pressure 3 to 5 psi will give you better grip & handling. I would start at 39 front & 45 rear psi or maybe even a little lower.

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Have done a track day on the LT and then several years later rented a track bike (Suzuki GSX-R600) and both experiences were fantastic.
Doing it on the LT gave a whole new level of confidence in the bike and just how well it can perform.
The GSX-R was significantly quicker round the track as expected, but going into a corner at 200kph (125mph) and scraping both sides of the LT's pegs was a buzz that you just can't get in normal street riding (well, not legally ).

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Gotta keep the tradition alive. This was less than 24 hours after picking the bike up from the dealer:


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Gotta keep the tradition alive. This was less than 24 hours after picking the bike up from the dealer:

Ken, what is your current bike status? Did you recover your GTL from the Ironbutt rally, or was it totaled? I remember you saying awhile back that you still had your LT to ride. Inquiring minds want to know.

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The GTL is at the dealer's now getting the insurance estimates done. All the running gear is fine, lots of cosmetic damage, but I was able to ride it home without any issues.

The LT was finally sold, and has moved on to a new owner. I still miss that bike a bit, and have some great memories.

Still got a GT (or two) to sell . . .

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Not to steer the topic of track (hey, that's about as good as it gets), but out of curiosity, what is the tube under the right side case?

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Not to steer the topic of track (hey, that's about as good as it gets), but out of curiosity, what is the tube under the right side case?
Sorry, didn't see your question until just now.

That's the original Meese ToolTube. I was looking for a way to carry some extra tools and stuff, and didn't want to give up saddlebag space. So I went to the local hardware store and cobbled that up using off-the-shelf parts. Note that the cover is off in that pic, as I emptied out all unnecessary weight when running that track day.

It worked great for many thousands of miles, and as far as I know, the new owner is still using it.

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