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Learned something new today (ETHANOL)

Today I went and bought a chainsaw. In the process we talked about fuel and fuel mixture.
It turns out that since the advent of ethanol Stihl sells premixed gas. It is pricy but does not contain ethanol and has a two year shelf life.
Ethanol is alcohol and alcohol will dissolve any oils, be it in the fuel or in the plastics or rubber lines.
Since I am not building log houses anymore or cutting firewood, I see no reason to mix my own fuel. The thought being that if it is left in the saw over the winter you will probably have combustion problems in the springtime.

So I learned something new about Ethanol today and in hindsight it just appears to be common sense.

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Re: Learned something new today (ETHANOL)

I recently bought a new Husqvarna string trimmer. Husqvarna has their own line of pre-mix fuels as well. Buy 3 cans Husqvarna fuel on the same invoice as a new 2-stroke trimmer, saw, etc. and the 2 year warranty is extended to 4.

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Thanks for posting this as it's news to me too. I've had a couple Stihl units for a few years and last time I was at dealer I think they didn't have this. Will get some next week.

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I now empty the gas tank & run them until they quit afterwards on my Stihl equipment that I don't use every week.

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Depending where you live go to this site and see if you have a service station near by that sells Ethanol free gasoline.

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp

This covers USA and Canada.

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Depending where you live go to this site and see if you have a service station near by that sells Ethanol free gasoline.

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp

This covers USA and Canada.


+1. I have this app on my Android phone. use it for my bike, boat, and anything else where fuel can sit longer than I like. I still use a fuel stabilizer as well.

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Did not know they had an app. Thx. The only downside is it's not available in Canada yet. But if you look around, you can sideload it and it works well in Toronto. Great little app to have for my trips to the USA.


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Re: Learned something new today (ETHANOL)

The only ethanol free gas in Canada is Shell Premium.

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I saw the premixed cans in Lowes recently, and almost fainted. $7.88 for a QUART! That is over $30 a gallon!

I can get ethanol free at the BP station near me.

Ethanol hardens the diaphragms in my Echo weed eater and leaf blower making a carb re-build necessary.

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Re: Learned something new today (ETHANOL)

I recently had to replace both my string trimmer and leaf blower, perhaps in part due to ethanol gas mix. I hopefully solved part of the problem by purchasing the new tools with 4 cycle Honda engines. So far very pleased with the performance.

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The only ethanol free gas in Canada is Shell Premium.

In Ontairo we get spoiled - Shell V-Power 91; Costco 91; Canadian Tire 91; Esso 91; Ultramar 91 and that's right from the Pure gas site.


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There is a movement about to make our fuel more unfriendly. Several representatives are moving to block the legislation to increase ethanol to 15%!:

(snipped from the AMA legislative action news letter)


Take Action Congressional letter aims to adjust ethanol mandate to prevent possible E15-related engine damage
Urge your representative to sign before the deadline, Oct. 28!

U.S. Reps. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), Jim Costa (D-Calif.), Steve Womack (R-Ark.) and Peter Welch (D-Vt.) are taking the lead in preventing possible E15-related engine damage by sending a letter to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to urge a “fair and meaningful nationwide adjustment to the ethanol mandate in the Renewable Fuels Standard. Prompt action by the EPA can help … prevent engine damage.”

The EPA has one tool that can provide immediate relief from the RFS, which was created in 2005 with the Energy Policy Act of 2005 and expanded in 2007 with the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007. Currently, the RFS mandates 36 billion gallons of biofuels by 2022. The law gives the administrator of the EPA flexibility to reduce the required volume of renewable fuels in any year. By reducing the ethanol mandate in the RFS, E15 --a gasoline formulation that contains up to 15 percent ethanol by volume-- will less likely be available in the marketplace.

The American Motorcyclist Association has repeatedly expressed concerns to government officials and federal lawmakers about possible damage to motorcycle and all-terrain vehicle engines caused by the inadvertent use of E15 when the new fuel becomes widely available.

This congressional letter would help protect the 22 million motorcycle and ATVs in America – and the riders who depend on their safe operation –from inadvertent misfueling.

The deadline for signatures on this congressional letter is Monday, Oct. 28! Act today to ensure your representative signs.

To urge your representative to sign on to the congressional letter, just follow the “Take Action” option to send a prewritten email directly to your lawmaker demanding access to safe fuel.

Please join the AMA to help us fight for safe access to fuel. More members means more clout against our opponents, and your support will help the AMA fight for your rights – on the road, trail, racetrack and in the halls of government. To join, go to AmericanMotorcyclist.com/membership/join.

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I own a 2013 Toyota. It says in my owners manual and on the gas cap NO E-15!

How is the US going to tell Toyota and owners that it is OK to use E-15 when the manufacturer designed the vehicle to use only up to 10% ethanol blend? Toyota has every right to VOID a warranty if they can prove damage from using anything higher than a 10% blend. I am sure other manufactures have the same restrictions. How can the government say it is safe when they are not the manufacturer of the vehicle? Politics and special interest groups working the system.

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