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In Florida, on a motorcycle, a person does not have to put your there feet down to be considered a stop, so with that said how many of you do this, I do this sometimes, look both ways, and just roll through a stop sign??? I try to force myself to stop and place both feet down, I feel like I am cutting myself short if I just do a quick peek.

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Depends.... Are there LEOs around?

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Depends.... Are there LEOs around?
Either or, do you think that one can check both ways with out putting feet down and slowing enough?? Again in Florida a motorcyclist does not have to put feet down to make it a valid stop, so your good.

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One thing I preach to those I have taught to ride, and something I do myself, is commit to an action, and follow through with it. 'specially on the LT. If I'm approaching a stop sign, I commit to the stop, and do not deviate from that. When you do, and again, especially on the LT, you're likely to screw something up.
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One thing I preach to those I have taught to ride, and something I do myself, is commit to an action, and follow through with it. 'specially on the LT. If I'm approaching a stop sign, I commit to the stop, and do not deviate from that. When you do, and again, especially on the LT, you're likely to screw something up.
You are right. Commit to the stop. I like that.

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When I can see both ways at a intersection for a good distance I'll do a rolling stop. On a LT that is about 1 or 2 miles per hour.

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I have to say I roll thorugh most of the stop signs or should say I do not put my feet down at the stop sign

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Like everyone else said. If good visibility way before the stop slow and go. Poor visibility I commit to the stop and then look. On the GS I can actually come to a full stop without feet down but not on the LT, too risky.

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A friend of mine puts one foot down but drags it on the ground if no traffic is coming & he keeps going. I like other only put a foot down if I can not see both ways clearly.

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If we are two-up, both feet go down at *most* stops - more than solo. Solo... depends on how far I can see and the condition of the road and intersection.

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In Florida, on a motorcycle, a person does not have to put your there feet down to be considered a stop, so with that said how many of you do this, I do this sometimes, look both ways, and just roll through a stop sign??? I try to force myself to stop and place both feet down, I feel like I am cutting myself short if I just do a quick peek.
I'm curious as to where it is specified that a full stop is not required. About a year ago I was stopped and given a written warning for doing just that.

Although I've been know to roll through a stop sign, see above, there can be potential problems in doing so. The preferred technique for stopping is of course front wheel straight ahead along with head and eye up also looking straight ahead. If you approach a stop, especially at an intersection where you intend to make a turn, with the intention of checking traffic and rolling through the stop you will most likely begin to initiate the turn while checking for traffic. That being the case, if you suddenly detect opposing traffic requiring you to stop and you begin braking there is a very good chance that you will fall.

On the other hand, if riding in a group and every one in front of you rolls through a stop and you decide it would be prudent to make a full stop, while everyone behind you is expecting you to keep moving, you may very well get rear ended. I've had that experience twice!

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I cannot recall the last time I saw a cage make a complete stop at a stop sign. It's been many many many years. Sorry for the digression.

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I'm curious as to where it is specified that a full stop is not required. About a year ago I was stopped and given a written warning for doing just that.

Although I've been know to roll through a stop sign, see above, there can be potential problems in doing so. The preferred technique for stopping is of course front wheel straight ahead along with head and eye up also looking straight ahead. If you approach a stop, especially at an intersection where you intend to make a turn, with the intention of checking traffic and rolling through the stop you will most likely begin to initiate the turn while checking for traffic. That being the case, if you suddenly detect opposing traffic requiring you to stop and you begin braking there is a very good chance that you will fall.

On the other hand, if riding in a group and every one in front of you rolls through a stop and you decide it would be prudent to make a full stop, while everyone behind you is expecting you to keep moving, you may very well get rear ended. I've had that experience twice!
I guess my point was, and you are correct legally you must come to a complete stop, how many of use do the balance to a stop, look both ways quickly and then go. I get lazy and some of the response have been awesome and confirm I am lazy. I need to stop attempting the balance act, look both ways, and take that extra second to look for traffic. This topic has been good for the feed back I have gotten.

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Guilty as charged when it comes to the old, "Slow down and fake a full stop." However, as most of the others have posted, it depends on the intersection." I frequently travel through a community that has four way stop signs at 90% of the intersections. There are only two main streets that have just a few stop signs. All other streets have four way stops at every intersection. Posted speed limit is 25 mph. If there are no cars or other vehicles at the intersection I stop, but immediately proceed without putting my foot down. I may also do this if there's a car approaching from behind and it looks as though they haven't noticed me. In other words, they're coming up on my backside pretty fast. I would like to point out that I am going straight through the intersection. If I'm making a left or right hand turn. It's a full, foot down stop. (See posting by Lynn_Keen) If there are other vehicles at an intersection (4 way stop), I stop and the left foot goes down. This tactic came from years of riding a bicycle through the same neighborhood.

In other locations if there's a stop sign and I have a clear, unobstructed view, it's pause and go. If there's any doubt about cross traffic or approaching traffic, or the sight lines are obstructed or limited, it's a full, foot down stop.

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I guess my point was, and you are correct legally you must come to a complete stop, how many of use do the balance to a stop, look both ways quickly and then go. I get lazy and some of the response have been awesome and confirm I am lazy. I need to stop attempting the balance act, look both ways, and take that extra second to look for traffic. This topic has been good for the feed back I have gotten.
When I was riding in New Zealand, in the '60s, the cops tend to be very rigid with the rules (seem more so for us students). Their definition of stop is that the bike's wheel needs to cease turning. One day, having just left my class on my Triumph, and coming to a stop sign behind a line of traffic, I noted a motorcycle cop parked on the side watching. When it was my turn, I came to a full stop without putting my foot down, and having seen that there were no traffics, proceeded through the intersection and was promptly pulled over. The guy was going to write a ticket, but I "suggested" that I did come to a full stop, even if I hadn't put my foot down. It ended up with my having to show the officer that I could indeed come to a full stop without touching the ground with my foot! I did not get a ticket!

Nowadays, I always come to a full stop with my foot down (NEVER feet!) at stop signs in urban or suburban areas, or where I do not have a full view to left and right for some distance. On country roads, I look carefully in both directions as I approach the stop sign, and if I see any traffic at all, I would stop, otherwise I will come to a theoretical stop and quickly proceed through the intersection.

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