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Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/0...cycle-crashes/

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Re: Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

I don't care what those dam statistics say, I'm ridin'. Besides distribution of body fat especially to the frontal areas should absorb some impact, sorta like an airbag!!

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Re: Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

Wacth your motorcycle insurance rates go up when you reach 60 years old!

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Re: Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

In years past the missus and I would go on vacation waving to the odd touring bike as we went by each other. Now, during the summer months, we could wave our arms off with number of bikes we encounter on those same highways.

Many of our friends only started riding after about age 55 as family and work consumed annual income prior to. As we are an aging population in North America and as we old guys seem to have the money, it seems obvious that as so many more of us are riding that we would be the ones involved in accidents.

I'll bet it is simple math, how any bikes are licensed and what are the age demographics. More old guys licensed equals a larger percentage of old guys in accidents.

Are the insurance statistics valid or just a tool used to achieve higher premiums from those that can afford to pay.
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Re: Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

What the article ignores are the life benefits for those of us who ride. I dare say I would not be as happy and fit as I am now if I did not ride. I know staying fit helps me keep on riding safely and I hope to extend my riding life for years to come.

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Re: Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

It should state that there are more idiot teenage drivers that are busy texting and too many soccer moms on the road yacking on their cell phones.......

60, that's still kind of young

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Re: Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

The old adage that Statistics can be twisted to prove most anything still holds. I believe I read in the article that the number of older riders has increased from 10% to 25%, or roughly a 15% increase. But the accident rate went from 4% to 7%, a 3% increase. Seems like pretty good odds to me! At the age of 73, after 50+ years of riding, I'll continue for as long as I'm having fun and feel safe.

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Re: Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

Could it be that many of the over 60 riders are not lifetime riders like most of us? I have met lots of riders my age (66) that took up riding a few years ago because they now have the money and fewer family obligations. I hate to say it, but many of them are scary riders, its just not second nature to them.

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At 69 yrs. old i ride. There is a old saying, that most all statistics are made up on the spot.

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Re: Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

As Mark Twain said: "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics." Actually my college statistics professor would tear this article apart. It is meaningless.

What might have some meaning is a statistic of how many miles the accident victims over 60 had over how many years of riding. What are the numbers of serious accidents for many of us on this forum in that age group with 30+ years of riding and hundreds of thousands of miles?

In fact in all age groups, it would be a meaningful statistic to report the number of serious accidents as a function of years/miles ridden.

Yes, my reactions have slowed, but my experience has increased and my risk taking has decreased over the 40 years and 300,000 miles of riding. 37,000 miles last year alone.

A 50+ year old lawyer friend came to me a couple of years ago and wanted to start riding. I actually discouraged him. He passed the MSF Safeway parking lot test, bought a Harley Davidson V-Rod and put him self in the hospital a block away from the dealership. And there, my friends are your statistics.

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Re: Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

Ditto to all the post before me.
I won't repeat everything that was said. My buddy and I were just discussing it today he saw the article I didn't.
But age is just a number (61) so the younger in the family know home many candles to put on your cake. And those are the stats.
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Re: Foxnews article on motorcycle crash statistics

A couple of things.

Unfortunately the population of motorcyclists is getting older. The general population of the western world is on average getting older and the physical capabilities of older people are dramatically increasing. The FoxNews article is culled from the Journal of Prevention. There is no mitigation or discussion of cost-benefit in that article or the journal it comes from. Nor, is there a cry to ban motorcycling for aged adults.

I'd say the article is likely correct in that more people who are older are still riding and that is a good thing. An increasing percentage in that demographic would be seen to have more injuries if all things hold similar. The article without the salacious spin of grandpa and grandma are going to die in a fiery wreck could just have easily been about how cool it is older people are engaging in formerly perceived youthful activities.

Now if you want to start a real hair on fire argument let's talk about the use of miles traveled instead of operator exposure as a metric for risk.

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