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A sporty wing

It's no BMW but I do like the look of the new Sporty Goldwing FB6

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post #2 of 22 Old Nov 13th, 2012, 5:04 pm
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I dunno. Maybe it'll grow on me, but right now I don't like it. It looks he's IN the vehicle and not riding a motorcycle.

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Re: A sporty wing

Wonder if this is the target market.

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Re: A sporty wing

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Wonder if this is the target market.

http://www.victorymotorcycles.com/en...try/motorcycle
Definitely going after that group, I thought Road Glide Custom by HD when I saw it. I guess they're after people that want a Harley but want a more refined machine would be my guess.
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Definitely going after that group, I thought Road Glide Custom by HD when I saw it. I guess they're after people that want a Harley but want a more refined machine would be my guess.
Agreed.

Based solely on that photo and what we already know about the Gold Wing, I like the idea. The Wing has always been on my radar. I read the article online (thanks for the link), and I'm looking forward to reading the article when the magazine arrives.

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I guess if my wife ever got where she did not want to ride the LT with me no more. :
I might look in to it.

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You need to upgrade to the Deluxe model in order to get a center stand, self cancelling turn signals and heated grips! It sure seems to be aimed at the H-D and Victory crowd.

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I guess if my wife ever got where she did not want to ride the LT with me no more.
Or you could just pull the trunk off the LT and cut the windscreen down and get the same effect, with much better handling and much less weight.

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I don't understand why they'd try to make a 'slammed' looking model out of what is fundamentally a touring machine. Harley has been doing the same thing with their Road Glide Customs. The Road Glide is, IMHO, their best touring platform, but they keep trying to appeal to the folks that like that look. Why would you want to chop the shield and remove the tour pack from a perfectly functional full touring bike? I wouldn't imagine there'd be a big market for this, but I don't have access to any marketing research, so maybe Honda knows something I don't.
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Because perfectly functional full touring bikes aren't "cool", didn't you hear?

Harley had made a fortune selling brand image, but most of their bikes spend the majority of their time sitting in the garage. Still, if image alone is enough to sell the bike, then any manufacturer has reached their main goal.

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Because perfectly functional full touring bikes aren't "cool", didn't you hear?
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I don't know you except by reputation and from various forum dialogs, but I can't picture you converting your GT with a shorty windshield, no tour pack, a lowered rear and larger front tire just to look cool. I know your comment was sarcastic but it's still a mystery to me why anyone would want to 'detour' a touring platform just to get that slammed look. If they wanted to do that starting with a cruiser I could understand people going for the 'look' but to defunctionlize a perfectly good touring bike just seems wrong to me.
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I imagine Honda took the cheapest route possible to come up with a new model. What did this cost in terms of R&D? Next to nothing.

I think any reference to it being a type of "Wing" is going to bite them in the end. I wouldn't want a modified Wing to be my cruiser-tourer, but hey, I've been wrong before by trying to guess what will and what won't work in motorcycle sales.

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I think the bike "looks" cool but I would not want one. I would have no problems owning a GW but that bike is just not for what I like to do. Just for looks. Remember the Honda Rune?

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For most "Bikers", the motorcycle is just a toy, or a status symbol showing that they "made it" and that they still have some bad-ass youth left in them even as they work overtime pushing papers and taking care of the kids. Or it's a well-earned reward after the kids have finally moved out and they find themselves with free time to fill, and a longing for the "good ol' days." Those are caricatures, of course, but they do fit many folks who suddenly decide they need to prove something to themselves and to others and that two wheels is the perfect way to do so.

Even the title of this thread, A "Sporty" Wing, alludes to that, trying to make an 842-lb behemoth sound just a bit more light and agile than it really is.

Most Riders, on the other hand, choose a steed based on their needs and abilities, and so how the bike rides and performs is just as important, or more so, than how it looks. Comfort, range, safety features such as ABS, all play a role in that choice, so a tourer makes more sense.

BMW tried to enter the "cool" market with the R1200C and CL models, to a lukewarm response. So they dropped that, and stuck to what they do best, which is balancing solid performance and agility with comfort and amenities and gadgets.

Most riders here understand that, and so are unlikely to be tempted by this latest entry into the looks-above-ability offering.

As for me, I'm all about function and performance over looks, which is why I can't be bothered to wash the damn bike, and why I'll slap a $20 junkyard trunk on to add capacity while saving weight. The bike is merely a tool, designed to perform a job, which is transporting me across state lines in safety and comfort and still having enough "sport" left over to play on the fun roads along the way.

Maybe Honda will find a niche and sell a ton of these, maybe not. All I know is that I'm not interested in one . . .

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Some of your points I'd agree with, some I'd disagree with. I'll bet there's 5X as many riders that wash their bikes than don't. While I'm really not thinking of ever selling mine, why should I want to reduce it's value or want it to look like a POS?

And while you could say that some older BMWs were the style-less Swiss Army Knife of the riding world, the newer models are definitely beautiful machines. So BMW CAN do style AND substance, they just need the right model at the right time.

The 1200C and CL were/are beauties. BMW didn't publicize the former enough, and the latter, well, they crudely tried to make a tourer out of a cruiser (and it's cruiser engine ), kind of like putting lipstick on a pig, and most people dislike handlebar mounted fairings anyway. (I've owned both models)

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Wow what a thread... Personally as I already said I like the look but I love to look at motorcycles, like women I can usually find something I like in every one without having to argue the merits of their function and design. There are a lot of bikes I like to look at but the LT is what fit my needs, balanced performance and comfort, like my wife And yes I'm glad she doesn't read this.

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I think that thing looks great!!

I've thought of getting something smaller and lighter than the LT for around town/short rides.

The new wing doesn't seem much lighter!!

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Hardly anybody posts to a Porsche, Mercedes, or BMW car forum ... "hey look at the latest Honda."

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It looks to me like it was designed by the same cartoonist who did the Victory Vision.
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I imagine Honda took the cheapest route possible to come up with a new model. What did this cost in terms of R&D? Next to nothing.

I think any reference to it being a type of "Wing" is going to bite them in the end. I wouldn't want a modified Wing to be my cruiser-tourer, but hey, I've been wrong before by trying to guess what will and what won't work in motorcycle sales.
I bet these wings are made of unobtanium - or at least that is what it will seem to people loitering about the showroom trying to get one. A lot of the GW riders I have run into are ex-HD riders or HD riders at heart and for one reason or another they are riding a wing.

I think that a bunch of these guys are going to want to migrate toward something more like what they really want, and I think a bunch of guys riding HDs leaning to a wing will get the nudge they are looking for.

Now why would an HD rider would want to move to a Goldwing

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VERY cool and being a "behemoth" at 60lbs more than the LT?...I think not...the 1800 wing handles surprisingly well for what it is, it is quick and fun to ride and requires very little maintenance....still miss my wing at times...will it sell?...heck if I know...aimed at the loyal, tough HD bagger crowd...
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It looks to me like it was designed by the same cartoonist who did the Victory Vision.
I disagree. the Victory Vision has unique styling that is bold, even if one doesn't like the looks. This Goldwing looks like they're simply trying to appeal to what's selling in the marketplace- the blacked-out look and baggers. You can't say they took a cookie-cutter approach w/ the V. Vision (which I happen to like).

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