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Another damn deer....

Riding south on I-75 between Bradenton and Sarasota FL., yesterday morning, traffic started to slow down because there was a dead deer in the middle of 3 lanes with an over turned van covered in dirt, almost hidden in the palmettos. There were 2-3 other cars banged up and people walking around in a daze.

A safety van had just pulled over so I kept going wondering about the chain of events. Not to be too gruesome, but it looked like the deer had been gutted in the middle of the road. It was a good size deer, at least 7-8 points.

This was moments before I got there and definitely put me more on the alert. Glad I paused to check a few things and kiss my wife good by before I left the house.

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Its better than meeting a mountain lion, bear or a wolf

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Those deer really scare us up here in northern MI. It's dark when I ride to work now, I have slowed down quite a bit in the morning!

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I saw two on my ride last week and again this morning. And this is around 9 AM in So California hills above Malibu.City deer!

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Its better than meeting a mountain lion, bear or a wolf
Or a coyote . . .

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Re: Another damn deer....

Up here in NY its getting closer to mating season and they are definitly starting to move around more. I had one come jumping out of the woods yesterday morning, landing mid road 30 feet or so out in front of me.

It actually looked kind of slow motion as the damn thing was sort of flying off of the berm on the right! Its own momentum, more than anything I did kept it crossing safely away from me. Hell of a pucker moment!

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Dan,

I used to come back from Melbourne at 10:30 two nights a week (in my SUV). I saw so many deer on the side of the road I was concerned even in my XXL SUV

I never saw any accidents but believed it had to happen all the time.

Now if I am coming back from MIA on a late evening I take 520 from 95 across the back road just to avoid the stretch of the interstate.

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Buddy and I were riding out of Hell's Canyon into Idaho, I in the lead, when I hollered (over the radio) "Bear on the left". I anchored it to see him, as did my buddy. By then the bear, maybe 60-70' off the road, stopped, stood up and was eye-balling me. My buddy got so excited that he started to roll his Goldwing backwards, and dropped the damned thing. Was hilarious watching him try to get the bike up. Had I been thinking, I'd have started the video camera, then screamed "Bear's coming". Bet I could'a won $10,000 off that video.
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Heading east on Montana 200 I passed a sign warning of bighorn sheep for the next 9 miles. I thought to myself right like I'm going to see some bighorn sheep. A mile later coming around a right turn there was a small herd right next to the road.

Turns out less than a month later a motorcyclist was killed on that same stretch of road from a bighorn.

Deer and other stupid animals lurking by the roadside are probably the most dangerous thing we confront as riders.

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Maybe the animals are attracted to the deer whistles, high viability gear and intense headlights!

I never had this problem in WV when I rode with the stock light, blue jean jacket and no deer whistle.

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Deer and other stupid animals lurking by the roadside are probably the most dangerous thing we confront as riders.
And the second most dangerous thing is other motorcycles. Here in central valley CA there are very few deers. Other motorcycles on the road do scare me as they thing they can share the lane while I am riding in the middle of the lane.

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Not much reason to crunch another car just because a deer is in the road. Being stupid enough to hit another car or cause a vehicle collision avoiding a deer is a lot more risky to your health than simply center punching the road rat with your cage if you're surrounded or being closely followed- that will only get a busted radiator in most cases, not flipped. Deer here in the south are pretty runty compared to colder northern climates- not like you're hitting one of the 300 lb versions that run around Alberta. Bucks over 200 lbs are very rare indeed in NC and they're even smaller in FL.
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Thanks for the info - I travel that route weekly on I-75 South to Sarasota from Brandon.
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I-75 South to Sarasota from Brandon.
I have seen them at night, around Ocala, along I-75 actually grazing beside the highway. These are not the tiny deer that you see in the Florida Keys, these probably weigh more than 100 pounds. Some weight quite a bit more.

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Maybe the animals are attracted to the deer whistles, high viability gear and intense headlights!

I never had this problem in WV when I rode with the stock light, blue jean jacket and no deer whistle.
Hey Dan, Maybe that was back when seeing a deer was a rarity. When I was a teenager hunting in Maryland back in the very early 60's, if you bagged a deer you were extremely lucky. Very few were killed during hunting season, maybe a few hundred. Now in Maryland it's in the thousands per season. Also, just sayin, maybe the boys down there hunted them for food year round. I live on the eastern shore of Maryland and the most dangerous thing you encounter on the road are deer. They are everywhere! The guy that comes up with a real deer preventive measure for vehicles will become a millionaire.

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I saw a pretty good sized black bear dead on a road here in PA this morning. A first for me, but I saw a live one crossing the road last month.

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Top ten states for car / deer accidents
1) Pennsylvania
2) Michigan
3) Illinois
4) Ohio
5) Georgia
6) Minnesota
7) Virginia
8) Indiana
9) Texas
10) Wisconsin

were #2 here in Michigan...We try harder ...

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Top ten states for car / deer accidents
1) Pennsylvania
2) Michigan
3) Illinois
4) Ohio
5) Georgia
6) Minnesota
7) Virginia
8) Indiana
9) Texas
10) Wisconsin

were #2 here in Michigan...We try harder ...
Actually, check out this great 2011 map from State Farm. It shows the probability of a deer collision for each state. West Virginia is #1, by the way, and Michigan is a lowly 5th place.

http://www.statefarm.com/aboutus/_pdf/deer-map-2011.pdf

If you hit a deer in Hawaii, can you be charged with violating the Endangered Species Act? (Yeah, yeah, I know that deer are an invasive species there, just kidding.)
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Actually, check out this great 2011 map from State Farm. It shows the probability of a deer collision for each state. West Virginia is #1, by the way, and Michigan is a lowly 5th place.

http://www.statefarm.com/aboutus/_pdf/deer-map-2011.pdf

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Re: Another damn deer....

I'm heading down to Pennsylvania this weekend to ride.
You guys have got me nervous about deer.
I'm planning on keeping the speed down.
Is there anything else I can do to cut down the chances of deer strikes?
"Don't ride" is not an option.
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1)Try not to ride at dawn, dusk or night if you can avoid it. And 2) try to stay center lane or near the left center to give yourself room. 3) Remember that especially with Does if you see one, there are usually 1 or 2 more coming out behind her, so stay over the brakes until you're sure you are clear.

It's getting closer to mating season and they are moving, couldn't even count how many I saw out yesterday while riding up in the mountains.

Just watch your speed, keep a wider eye on the shoulders / brushline for movement and enjoy your trip!

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Buddy and I were riding out of Hell's Canyon into Idaho, I in the lead, when I hollered (over the radio) "Bear on the left". I anchored it to see him, as did my buddy. By then the bear, maybe 60-70' off the road, stopped, stood up and was eye-balling me. My buddy got so excited that he started to roll his Goldwing backwards, and dropped the damned thing. Was hilarious watching him try to get the bike up. Had I been thinking, I'd have started the video camera, then screamed "Bear's coming". Bet I could'a won $10,000 off that video.
I had something similar, but it was a deer, and I was second in line, the deer decided to pick that moment to cross the road, right into me, stopped about a hundred yards down the road to asses the damage, bent crash bars and nose on GSA, but was able to complete the ride back to Cali. Whew, that was close one.
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Is it normal to observe as many deer on the freeways as well?

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Well, my commute this time of year is exactly at dawn and dusk. ( work 7AM-7PM )
Just last evening, started my commute home. The area around work is a huge deer area, dotted with several parks and wooded reservations. About 2 miles out, 40-45 MPH zone, the car in front of me jams on his brakes. I also stopped and wondered "WTF?" just for a second, and then I saw them. NINE deer walking single-file, calmly across the road like they owned the place, no hurry at all. It's got me rethinking commuting on the RT. I figure it's only going to get worse as winter approaches.

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I'm heading down to Pennsylvania this weekend to ride.
You guys have got me nervous about deer.
I'm planning on keeping the speed down.
Is there anything else I can do to cut down the chances of deer strikes?
"Don't ride" is not an option.
Thanks,
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The advice above about not riding at dusk, night, or dawn, paying attention, etc. are good.

Most important, keep in mind that your overall chances of having a deer collision in Pennsylvania this weekend are 1 in 15,695. I suggest that you simply have a great time and don't worry about it.
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