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Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

I have to make a regular trip from Orlando to Mia (4 hours each way) and my wife was wanting me to get up and drive in the morning.

I was thinking that because the traffic after 6pm (leave orlando time) with a 10 pm arrival at the hotel would be safer.

She believes that driving at 5am with an arrival time of 9:30 am and being in traffic is safer.

I assured her that the eveening was better.

What is the groups thoughts?

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post #2 of 14 Old Sep 7th, 2010, 9:03 pm
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Re: Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

I agree with you, the night time with less traffic I feel would be safer if you have sufficient lighting on your bike. I ride at night on a regular basis and the only thing I am leery of is running into a deer. I have the PIAA 1100X's installed and find they are perfect for night riding. Just my $.02

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Re: Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

While I'm sure there must be official stats with regard to what time of day the most traffic injuries/deaths occur, I've always felt safer riding early morning/pre-dawn than in the evening. Besides the fact that I'm fresher and more rested, I'm more concerned with the cagers around me, and I suspect there are more drunk/impaired drivers in the evening than in the morning (excluding very early in the morning 1am-2am).

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Re: Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

Well, I agree with both!




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Re: Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

I prefer Less traffic, night riding is not an issue due to HID lighting, I prefer the extra space to move away in case of something vs congestion and cannot escape.

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Re: Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

The table below is from

http://www.motorcyclesafetyinfo.com/...tml#Figure 3.2

and shows the time of day in which both the fatal and non-fatal accidents occurred. The data indicates that most accidents occurred between 17h01 and 18h00, with the most accidents taking place from 14h01 to 20h00. It is not possible to state whether a given time of day is "more dangerous" than any other time since PTW rider exposure data (i.e., number of riders on the roadway at all hours of the day) is not available. Most of the fatal accidents occurred between 12h01 and 22h00, with the most frequent number of cases taking place between 19h01 and 20h00. The data shown in Figure 3.2 may be found in datatables page, Table C.2.

According to the U.S. Department of Transportationís National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA, Motorcycle riders killed in traffic crashes at night were nearly 4 times more likely to have BAC levels at or over 0.08 percent (48 percent) than those killed during the day (13 percent).

According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), riders of ďsupersportsĒ motorcycles have driver death rates per 10,000 registered vehicles nearly four times higher than for drivers of other types of motorcycles.

Also attached is another table showing time of day for all motorcycle injuries and deaths. the evening was also very high in the statistics.

Unfortunately, none of the surveys show the % of riders per time of day, so for example, if 80% of the miles put on motorcycles are driven between 5pm and 1 am, the # of accidents would be higher, but does that correlate to night driving being safer? Then when you factor in BAC etc, there is no survey or evidence that riding at night vs riding during the day is safer especially if you factor out BAC.

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Re: Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

Are you a night person or a morning person? I do my best work first thing in the morning and it's downhill after that so, personally, I'd make it a morning drive. My routine would make for a drowsy landing at 10p, plus having to deal with all the other details that need to be accomplished after the ride.

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Re: Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

You know your area best.... for me, I "prefer" traveling when cooler...especially if it is just to "get there'.

Morning travel exposes you to Makeup Mom's, sleepy drivers, etc.
Evening travel exposes you to "Happy Hour" Hannah/Harry and "The office" blues and the "soccer Mom's" and "scouting pops".

Travel in Florida exposes you to other environmentals... bugs and critters..... teeth.. =)

So..... Which do you want to fight?

For me.. I think I would take the night fight...

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Re: Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

This time of the year, I would go with the morning drive,
just because of our summer weather patterns
and the afternoon and evening showers.

You didn't mention whether or not you drive the FL turnpike or 27?

I personally believe people drive "more aggressive" in the mornings in the metro area's,
so the route is also a factor to consider.


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Re: Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

It is definitely a matter of opinion. I am a morning person, so I would prefer the morning ride, but that's me.

If you ride in the morning, you get to sleep with your wife and save on hotel costs, but you may arrive tired, especially if your wife feels frisky that night.

If you ride in the evening, you will have more time to get a good night's rest and prepare for your work.

Can you avoid the morning traffic by timing your ride to pass through urban areas before or after the peak? Are there carpool lanes that you can use?
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Morning...I hate trying to find places in the dark,
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Re: Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

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You didn't mention whether or not you drive the FL turnpike or 27?
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SilverBuffalo, I am taking neither, I am going down 417 in Orlando , cross the 528 (beeline) and then down 95 South to Boca.

I arrived this morning at the office a few minutes ago. The problem is that I am now a little sweaty, hair a mess from the helmet, a tired after a 3.5 hour ride.

The Ride was fine, except I had to leave Oviedo at 5:30 this morning to get here when I wanted to.

And either way, I still have a ride home this afternoon at 3pm when I am done here in Boca.

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Re: Night riding VS morning traffic riding.

Greetings!

A little research will reveal the traffic patterns and hazards on the roads you plan to ride.

Working graveyards, I can tell you from personal experience, that 0200--0600, especially Sat and Sun mornings, are the "tits-up" hours.

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