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Hitting a critter

On our way back from Illinois yesterday evening taking the back way to get off the super S, my wife, riding her 250 Ninja hit a rabbit. I was following her. The bunny ran out, changed its mind and started to run back, then changed again and ran right into her rear tire. She was really bummed by it. Okay, not a big incident in the grand scheme of things, but it really bothered her. I told her there was nothing she could have done and she was right not to try and swerve or avoid it. These things just happen.

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On our way back from Illinois yesterday evening taking the back way to get off the super S, my wife, riding her 250 Ninja hit a rabbit. I was following her. The bunny ran out, changed its mind and started to run back, then changed again and ran right into her rear tire. She was really bummed by it. Okay, not a big incident in the grand scheme of things, but it really bothered her. I told her there was nothing she could have done and she was right not to try and swerve or avoid it. These things just happen.
Your wife did the right thing. I am glad she is safe, which is the most important thing.

My wife and I were in our SUV driving down a country road in Washington. It was that perfect summer day, and we had all the windows rolled down. A flock of little brown birds came flying from our left, up high. At the last instant, the flock swooped down into our path. There was no avoiding them. Birds hit everywhere - the windshield, the hood, the grill, and the bumper. The worst were the birds that flew through the open windows and got inside, especially the one that hit the trailing edge of the passenger window frame. It exploded in a burst inside the SUV. For several long seconds, there was zero visibility caused by the feathers swirling inside our vehicle.

We pulled over, and took care of the mess, burying the little bodies on the side of the road. It took years before feathers stopped coming out of the little places where they were hidden.

Ever since then, I have had an unnatural instinct to duck whenever birds come near my path. My wife still teases me about it.
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Another coach I work with had a student ask him how to decide whter to run over or avoid an animal. His response with a straight face was "If you think you can eat it in one setting, run over it - otherwise try to avoid it." I know that won;t be funny to the OPs wife, but it does make sense in some twisted way.

What can you do in the OP sitiuation? Not much.

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remember the rule - If it's more than you can eat in one sitting, swerve.

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The "eat in one sitting" rule is quite accurate, if gross.

That topic was already discussed several times - and I posted stuff shown below in the past on ADV. Here is a refresher for your entertainment:

A demonstration from the MS2 Motorcycle Safety School, based in Munich. Apparently, you can run through even that size obstacle.

Actually, the demonstrating rider, owner of the MS2 school, is a very skilled ex-pro MX racer (I have been on a dual-sport tour guided by him) and even he had some trouble recovering. But the general gist of his video is that unless you are in big danger of hurting yourself in a direct collision, you are better off not trying avoidance maneuvers.

The clip is in German, but don't worry: roll up to time marker 1:15.


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The "eat in one sitting" rule is quite accurate, if gross.

That topic was already discussed several times - and I posted stuff shown below in the past on ADV. Here is a refresher for your entertainment:

A demonstration from the MS2 Motorcycle Safety School, based in Munich. Apparently, you can run through even that size obstacle.

Actually, the demonstrating rider, owner of the MS2 school, is a very skilled ex-pro MX racer (I have been on a dual-sport tour guided by him) and even he had some trouble recovering. But the general gist of his video is that unless you are in big danger of hurting yourself in a direct collision, you are better off not trying avoidance maneuvers.

The clip is in German, but don't worry: roll up to time marker 1:15.

Very interesting clip. Thanks.

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For most critters I wouldn't server, I hit rather large raccoon last year, jsut felt like a little bump.

Now, for those coming to Killington for CCR, the best way to avoid hitting a moose is to duck.

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The only thing I ever hit was a tweedy bird--on my GT. MEEOOOOWWWWWWWWW.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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On our way back from Illinois yesterday evening taking the back way to get off the super S, my wife, riding her 250 Ninja hit a rabbit. I was following her. The bunny ran out, changed its mind and started to run back, then changed again and ran right into her rear tire. She was really bummed by it. Okay, not a big incident in the grand scheme of things, but it really bothered her. I told her there was nothing she could have done and she was right not to try and swerve or avoid it. These things just happen.
Consider commemorating the event buy buying her a set of Aerostich's Roadkill Combat Stickers. She'll love you for it.

Or not!

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The only avoidance I use is braking in a straight line if time allows. Swerving will be a guess as to which way the critter is going to run. Hitting them square is the best policy unless it a Moose or some large animal like cows or horses. Then hope your reflexes and training keep you alive.

The video is good but what happens when the animal is alive an moving?

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The only avoidance I use is braking in a straight line if time allows. Swerving will be a guess as to which way the critter is going to run. Hitting them square is the best policy unless it a Moose or some large animal like cows or horses. Then hope your reflexes and training keep you alive.

The video is good but what happens when the animal is alive an moving?

Roy
Best policy is ATGATT and ABS. If it's dead and laying in the road, then avoidance is in order for the big animals. Trying to avoid a large moving living animal rather than, minimize impact velocity and praying it moves out of your path, is vanity and vexation of spirit.

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Consider commemorating the event buy buying her a set of Aerostich's Roadkill Combat Stickers. She'll love you for it.

Or not!
Great Idea!

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mass/inertia roll on the throttle!!!

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mass/inertia roll on the throttle!!!
That's pretty much what I've always thought. Not sure I'd do that for a very large animal like a horse or cow.

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mass/inertia roll on the throttle!!!
So, Chann, do you yell "Ramming speed!" ?

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My BIG fear is running over some sail cat, possum stew, raccoon ragout or other road pizza at night while driving at speed. The longer it sits the slicker it gets.

I've encountered deer on the bike and I notice the horns seem to really make a difference in their willingness to get out of your way.
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