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post #1 of 27 Old Jun 20th, 2010, 2:49 pm Thread Starter
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Anyone ever rode a Victory vision

Gentleman, please dont lynch mob me. I dont know why i just love the look of them. I just wondered what your thoughts were, as Victory dealers in the uk are few and far between
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I also like to look at them What a beautiful bike!

Swedish magazine (motorrad.se) has a test for 32000miles with one Victory-model, Hammer S. After 3800 miles they found rust on top of the exhaust pipe, not good indeed!

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I think it's a bike that you either love or hate--no middle with it. Just my two cents.

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I think it's a bike that you either love or hate--no middle with it. Just my two cents.
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Nearly 3 years ago, I rode a Victory Vision Tour on a test ride before we bought our K1200LT. Smoother than HD by far. Seemed to be a superior bike to the HD Ultra Classic too. We rode the middle of 3 levels available at the time. We almost pulled the trigger on it too, in the ice blue. Like the LT it feels like a massive motorcylcle and even looks like it. And like the LT, once you get rolling it rides nice and you no longer notice the size. The luggage compartments are smaller than they appear though. It even had the power windshield! One thing I liked was that there was NO dealer markup like another American manufacturer. The listed MSRP was the maximum you were going to pay for the bike. Our thought was "It looks cool now but will we still think that in 3 or 4 years?" When we went to look at our LT my wife thought it looked "Sexy" which is different than cool. Once we rode the LT our decision was made but the Vision wasn't that far behind.

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Yup. Pretty. Rode. Still have LT. JMO

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Re: Anyone ever rode a Victory vision

I test rode a Vision 2 years ago at Americade. It was the second Victory I had test that week. The first was the Jackpot Tour. Wasn't crazy about the Jackpot. When I rode the Vision I was at first shocked by how hard the seat was. After 2 minutes the seat started feeling very comfortable. I also liked the length of the foot pegs, I had plenty of slide room. I enjoyed the ride, It was about as smooth as a Gold Wing. It had plenty of room for both operator and passenger. I'm cramped on the Gold Wing. I found the engine to be a little week in the lower rpm range and had to crank it to feel the power. I love the weird looks and styling. Its different. Don't look like anything else on the road. I liked the one without the trunk. Wish they had a better design for it as its the only ugly thing about the bike. I still prefer my Lt but the Vision is a second choice.

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Love the looks of the Vision. When I first saw it, I knew I had to have one. Went to demo one in Myrtle Beach. I was shocked at how small the saddlebag storage was, might be able to put a lunchbox in each one. When I rode it, it was good. Rode OK, shifted OK, handled OK. Kind of like a vanilla ice cream cone, good but no fun factor for me.
When I rode my LT I was sold after the first mile.

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Regardless of performance, in a year or two, I would be looking at a Vision sitting in my garage and wonder what was I thinking. I don't think the design will age well, unlike the LT that after 11 years still has a pretty contemporary look.

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I've never ridden the Vision, but I nearly bought the Kingpin, as a second bike. I love that bike and the way it handles, its a comfy little creampuff, but the owner and I failed to agree on terms and price. I know that some of the corner jockeys on this site would say it sits too low to corner fast. I would agree, yet it is well balanced and sets into corners easily. The Vision has a very unique look, it is a piece of functional art; the sidebags suffer in size because of this. Did the batwing rearends of the 57 American cars live eternally in the mainstream? No way, but we reminisce over them, and admire their beauty at car shows and rallies. The people who really loved them still drive them.
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post #11 of 27 Old Jun 20th, 2010, 9:59 pm
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I have a friend who let me ride his. He loves it, but that's because he worked for the dealer and they gave him a good deal. It is somewhat comfortable, even though it is hot from the pipes. Has too much vibration for me. Also, the saddle bags are pretty small. Just my observations.

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Yes, I have Ridden a Vision. I used it for a day trip and found it to be an interesting bike. The power is good, the handling is pretty good and the controls work well. On the upside, the headlight is a lot better than the stock LT's (that's why I have HID in my LT), and the transmission worked surprisingly smooth. My only issues were that the seating position was uncomfortable for me...your results will vary.......and that I couldn't really relate to the Vision as a 'touring' bike as intended. The side luggage and the top box are so misshapen as to be only barely serviceable. I know Victory probably makes aftermarket takbags, luggage liners.......maybe even a rack for the box.....but as delivered, I found it VERY difficult to find places to stow stuff for just a big days ride.
If just cruising from place to place, or a little light touring is your thing, I think the Vision may be a great bike. It's got some innovative engineering (check out the battery location!), and good fit and finish, good power and things like that. I really REALLY wanted to like the Vision because I think it's high time someone made a decent, higher tech V-Twin for touring.....but I came away thinking that if I had to cover 600 miles in a day or be gone for a week and the only choice in bikes I had was a Vision or an Electra Glide Ultra....I would take the H-D.
I hope that Victory keeps working on the Vision and gets it revamped into a great touring bike because I think the basic package has lots of potential.

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No I have not ridden one but Kari Savolainen and myself tried to rent ones from Eaglerider for our this year CCR trip.
Eagleriders responded that they had Victury Visions as test bikes in their rental fleet last year but due to too small demand they decided to discontinue them in 2010.

Now hearing about the limited luggage space in Vision we might be lucky that we did not get them.

So...it will be GoldWings again this year...

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These guys have, if you can understand what they are saying. Yes, it is english.

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I test rode a Vision and was not impressed. The transmission had a very loud clunk into first gear and it seemed down on power. I took it for a 10 mile cruise and then came back for the SO. When I took here for a cruise she said the vibration in the seat was to much. Although I did like the looks the LT is a better cruiser by far. The price tag for the Vision is a little steep. I bought my LT for 10,000 with 2000 miles on it. I can not see spending 24000 to 29000 for a cruiser like the Ultra or Vision.

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I have a friend who let me ride his. He loves it, but that's because he worked for the dealer and they gave him a good deal. It is somewhat comfortable, even though it is hot from the pipes. Has too much vibration for me. Also, the saddle bags are pretty small. Just my observations.

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I to rode one. It looks great but not the German vibration free machine that I have come to expect out of my RT. It does look cool and it is art work, but would not buy one.


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Re: Anyone ever rode a Victory vision

Yes, a buddy has one so I ride it from time to time.

Likes:
Handling is very good for such a big bike.
torque.
Drivers Seat.
styling.

Dislikes:
Virbration on feet and hands.
Wind on the top of the helmet is torbulant at any windshield height.
Hard to reach pedals (I have a 29 inseam and he has a 36 inseam so may not be set up for me).
Heat off the engine.
Lots of wasted side bag space (poor design).
Not my style of ride with feet forward.
Wife got to much wind.
She didn't like the seat as much.
She felt like she was sitting on top of the bike and not part of the bike like she does with the LT.
She felt she sat to high.

Overall, I think it is a very nice bike. Well put together and good technology.

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Gentleman, please dont lynch mob me. I dont know why i just love the look of them. I just wondered what your thoughts were, as Victory dealers in the uk are few and far between
After putting about 200 miles on the LT yesterday, my wife and I pulled into a country restaurant and parked right next to one. There were some old folks drooling over it. They left. The owner walked up. I told him I parked next to him so people wouldn't mess with my bike. He laughed.

I like it, but it's a little over the top for me. It's the styling equivalent of ape hanger handlebars: Looks cool, impossible to live with...
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You nailed that one safe to say I wouldn't be caught riding one not sure who they are marketing to its way over the top for me to much bling not enough bang.

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One thing I liked was that there was NO dealer markup like another American manufacturer. The listed MSRP was the maximum you were going to pay for the bike.
Our local Harley dealer has long forgotten the "dealer markup". They're begging to sell them. Even at a discount, v-twin isn't for me!

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These guys have, if you can understand what they are saying. Yes, it is english.

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I have taken several Victory models on extended test rides, including a Victory Vision. Nice, but not my cup o' tea.

I really want to like those big V-twins, but they don't seem to work for me. Here are my thoughts about the Vision:

I like the styling, but there is a lot of wasted space that could have been used for storage.

I didn't like the lack of attention to the small details. I visually checked that the cases were shut, but one of the side cases opened up while I was riding. There was no visual indication that the case lid was loose.

I don't like the vibration.

The bike seemed very underpowered for its size and displacement; and I rode the bike empty.

Every time I ride one of those big beautiful V-twins and then get back on my GT, it reminds me how much I enjoy riding the GT and how well it fits my needs.
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These guys have, if you can understand what they are saying. Yes, it is english.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYUbURkdvnY&feature=fvw
I nearly bought the LT in that video. The dealer in Guildford was selling it as a "demonstrator".
I gave him a couple of hints but he still wouldn't come clean about it being used by the bike press!!. I bought a different one from another dealer and told him why. If he'd been honest we might have been able to negotiate.


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What sort of "discount" was he offering ?. How many miles on the clock ?.
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I think it's a bike that you either love or hate--no middle with it. Just my two cents.
I hated it, and I was working for a Victory dealership at the time when I rode it!! they have a lot of power but it's not an LT.

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Yes but you can perfectly understand the last sentence I guess
Yep "if it was my money it would be the BMW"
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