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post #1 of 80 Old Feb 14th, 2006, 8:15 pm Thread Starter
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Concours or FJR or What?

If, suddenly, you had to replace your KLT with a new bike, but it couldn't be a BMW, what would you get? I love the FJR, but the Concours has a lot going for it. The Feejer is fast and has a lot of the amenities we like but is $13,500. The Concours is long-term reliable, but slower and has a buzziness. It is only $8,000, though, which makes up for a lot.

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If you have the $13,500 to spend, buy the feejer. If you don't....buy the Concours. If I could only have ONE motorcycle, it would be a feejer!
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I left my '99 LT behind when we moved from the UK back to the US. We immediately bought a house, so I was hesitant to drop $20K for another LT. I bought a new Concourse instead. It was fine for solo commuting, but honestly I felt the LT handled better overall.

I ended up not going to CCR '02 because I couldn't see riding the Connie that far. I probably could've done it, but there was no way we were doing it two up. It even got to the point where we'd take the car instead of the bike on weekend trips. It just wasn't really comfortable overall.

So 8 months later I traded it in on an '02 LT and never looked back.

If I had to do it all over again, I'd rather buy a used LT than a new Concourse. Keep an eye out, the '99 and '00 LTs can be had for well under $10K, and you occasionally see them go for around $8,500.

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Hmmmm?? Hard,hard question.....

I can't imagine not having an LT now that I have one,,but, I would probably go back to a FLHTC.. I could ride that scooter longer and farther each day than all the bikes I've owned..I would also go stand a take a long look at the Wing too.........Regards Pete
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I've had my '86 Connie since '89 and have not ever regreted ownership. It has been a very stable and reliable ride and it is SOOO easy to work on. A lot of the Connie riders are starting to switch over to the FJR because of it's power and handling. You have to remember that the Connie has not changed significantly since it's introduction in '86, so by today's standards it is outdated. Does the LT handle better? Well, it should considering the technology change over the years, but I know a few Connie owners that have surprised sport bike riders in the twisties. Don't underestimate the 'ol girl! Will I ever get rid of the Connie? No way! That thing is just one hoot to ride. I can honestly say that I would part with my LT before I'd part with my Connie. You can also farkle the heck out of the Connie and still not touch the price of an FJR.


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If it can't be a BMW, then probably an FJR or a Ducati ST4S. I don't think I would go Gold Wing, but I could revert back to HD and get a RoadGlide with the huge Screamin' Eagle motor kit. If HD made a sport-tourer on the V-Rod platform I woul definitely consider that.

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nothing. I looked at all the bikes used to go touring and this is the bike we wanted. If we can't have this we will go for the new jag convertible
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If, suddenly, you had to replace your KLT with a new bike, but it couldn't be a BMW, what would you get? I love the FJR, but the Concours has a lot going for it. The Feejer is fast and has a lot of the amenities we like but is $13,500. The Concours is long-term reliable, but slower and has a buzziness. It is only $8,000, though, which makes up for a lot.

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As much as I loved the power plant and wind protection of the Connie, I doubt if I could revert to 1986 technology. The frame, suspension and brakes of the old school concours leave so much to be desired. The bike is very unforgiving and the brakes lock fairly easily, you need to be an experienced rider to handle the connie when pushing it hard. Otherwise I loved my Connie, the wind protection was great and I could ride her all day - just had to remember she is an Old School Lady.
The FJR on the other hand is more refined but was to small for my 6'1'' frame. I can't see how anyone over 5'10'' could fit the FJR.

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My 2 cents: I liked my Connie, I love my LT. However, you can buy a new Connie with a little haggling for about $7500. Put new fork springs, brake pads, SS brake lines, a fork brace, a de-buzzing kit, bar risers, AND a new seat and you have a pretty F$%%^ good bike. That will most likely set you back another $1k, so, still cheap. I think I might get another Connie in addition to my LT at some point. Bottom line: I could be happy with only the Connie, and they are bullet-proof.

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I bought a brand new Connie in 2004, kept it a few months and sold it when I bought my 99 LT used.

Not comfortable for me, even after installing the bar risers and lowered pegs. In traffic my hands would start to fall asleep and I had to shake them vigorously to get the blood flowing again.
And forget about going much of anywhere with my 5'9" SO... Just too cramped and not designed to travel 2 up for very long. The seat is wrong and needs to be replaced.
On the other hand I like the nimbleness... and yes it was a cheap bike. Then again you get what you pay for.
I think I would even look at a used Honda ST before considering a Connie... if a BMW is not in the picture.

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GS for sure!

Tired of plastic and the feejer has ZERO personality IMHO...
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The only other bike I would ever consider is going back to HD Ultra Classic. I still miss the old girl. But then the other old girl (my wife) reminds me that she enjoys the LT so much more.
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Hhmmmn... If I HAD to replace the LT, and the replacement could NOT be another BMW product (aka K1200GT, or K1200R) . . . I would simply replace the LT with a GOLD WING!!! HELLO!!!

Quite frankly, this thread cracks me up. Y'all talk about replacing the LT and suddenly a list of current sport-tourers shows up! What a hoot! THE LT IS NOT A SPORT-TOURER! It's a Luxury Tourer with some sport capabilities. The FJR could NOT replace what the LT does in a million years. Nor could any of the others mentioned. For one-up or two-up long distance comfort and ammentities...there's nothing to replace the LT 'cept for the Gold Wing.
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just Joe being Narrow minded


If the stipulation is (not in the original question) replacing the LT with another luxo-tourer then, yes, the obvious answer would be the Wing. I however, have no interest in a Wing as I feel it's capabilities are too limited for my type riding. I'd actually be more inclined to buy a V-Rod than a Wing. Maybe when I grow up, but not yet.

The Connie- don't think so
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dumb question

What's an FJR????
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What's an FJR????
http://www.micapeak.com/bike/FJR1300/

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thanks...

Thanks, Joe...

Interesting, as someone else noted, the FJR in particular is not LT like at all...

Not any kind of a value judgement at all... it just appears to be a different sort of beast.

The Concours, which I've al least sat on, seems aimed more at being in the same catagory...

As for me... If BMW would make a new K75, I'd grab one in a minute. I had originally intended to sell my K75c after I got used to my LT, but I'm thinking I may well keep it... It's a different kind of ride... for a different kind of mood.

As a newbie here, BTW.. Just want to thank everyone for all the great info.
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Yes...if you scroll up John, you'd see that I was the one that basically eluded to the fact that the LT and the FJR1300 are not in the same class.

It's funny. Some guys get offended when I say things like this. As if I don't LOVE the LT. MY LT!!!! No...I'm just a realist, and they are all quite delusional!
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NO DOUBT.................FJR

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FJR is a nice fast, comfortable and light machine, more than capable of two up touring, I managed 10 countries on it in 2 years, two up and loaded. 145bhp makes it effortless to ride. LT that I replaced it with is a sluggish monster in comparison. Slow gear change, heavy throttle and really top heavy, are a few of the downsides, but the comfort, I'm hoping will come into it's own on a new European 4000 mile venture I have planned for this summer.
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Joe makes a good point. The LT and the sport-touring class are totally different riding styles, which is why when I decided to get another bike I didn't get another Connie or the FJR, or anything else along those lines. I wanted a different style, but NOT a cruiser!

Now, as for the buzz that you hear so much about. It can be fixed by adjusting the counter-balancer and keeping the valves set. You can also add larger barends weights, or change out the bars and use a bar snake, or fill the bars with lead shot. But honestly after owning the same bike for 17 yrs, if that "buzz" (which I don't even notice) is all there is to complain about, then I'd say it's a damn good bike. Granted 2 up is a bit cramped, especially if the rider and passenger are fairly large, but I've known several people that have ridden across country 2 up, so it can't be all that bad.

If you're really interested in getting a Connie, then check out http://www.concours.org. What you'll find is a group that is as helpful and fanatical about the Connie as this group is about the LT. (another reason I chose the LT!)


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Just remember that you don't have to apologize for the Connie. That old gal's been around longer in it's original form than ANY BMW of the last 3 decades!

(Now if Kawasaki takes the current but soon-to-be obsolete ZZR1200's motor and puts that in the Connie, and gives the old girl a facelift...EVERYone will be drooling over her. You mark my words...)
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Man, the more I ride/learn/practice/read, the more I realize how many different bikes are out there, and how I'd like to ride each one for a month! If that were to somehow happen I'm not sure I'd end up with the LT, which I have now. I have a grand total of 1 month's ownership of a Honda Shadow 600, folloiwed by 6 months with an '05 LT -- not much experience to draw upon when comparing one bike to another. I see myself taking advantage of every opportunity (dealer, Bike Week, friend) to ride a different kind of bike.

Don't get me wrong; I like my LT but the FJR, the Valkyrie Interstate (where did THAT come from? -- completely off my radar, until now) and others look very, very sweet, and could be "the bike" for me. This is an ongoing process!

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I have owned the LT, Concours and FJR. My decision would be made from how the majority of miles were spent. Two up - Concours. One up - FJR. The LT will cruise in triple digits all day one or two up with uncompromised comfort and amenities. I really don't see an option to the LT.
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Don't worry Howard. You've got the Crème de la Crème of touring bikes. The biggest problem I see is that most people want one bike to do EVERYTHING. Ain't gonna happen. Keep the LT, then find a smaller sportier bike as your riding level increases to complete your stable.

FWIW, the Valkerie is no longer available, IIRC. It had a lot of things going for it...but I could pick on it in certain areas too. Like I said, there ain't no All-In-One bike out there.
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Exactly. My preferences have morphed over the years, from dirt bikes, to sport bikes, to sport touring, to the LT, to the Wi (screeeeech!), back to sport touring.....

If the LT did not exist, I would more likely have a GS and a sport tourer than a Wing and a sport tourer. If I could have only one bike, it would be a sport tourer.

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Then again...Dave's bike on order is an AUTOMATIC. Some sport-tourer!
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Exactly. My preferences have morphed over the years, from dirt bikes, to sport bikes, to sport touring, to the LT, to the Wi (screeeeech!), back to sport touring.....

If the LT did not exist, I would more likely have a GS and a sport tourer than a Wing and a sport tourer. If I could have only one bike, it would be a sport tourer.
Make sure to give us an owner's report once you get the FJR - I'm currently debating the FJR / GT choice.

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Well actually.......

The FJR1300A denotes ABS.
The FJR1300AE has ABS and Electronic shift.

They are not automatics. Every sales person I talked with refered to the AE as an automatic. My next question was "What happens if I pin it, and do nothing else?" The answer is, "nothing." I guess it would blow up eventually, but may run out of gas first.

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Don't worry Howard. You've got the Crème de la Crème of touring bikes. The biggest problem I see is that most people want one bike to do EVERYTHING. Ain't gonna happen. Keep the LT, then find a smaller sportier bike as your riding level increases to complete your stable.
10-4 on that, Joe. I'm learning that from reading all the discussions on this site. I'd like to hit the lottery then pick up the phone and make some calls to have new bikes (all different) delivered to my front door for long-term test rides.

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... The LT will cruise in triple digits all day one or two up with uncompromised comfort and amenities...
I've seen this (high-speed cruising) mentioned several times. Where does one cruise (for 2 minutes, let alone all day) at that speed? I want to try that some time. I've had the LT to 115 mph briefly, but it was a rural two-lane with a long straight stretch -- prime deer-jumps-in-front-of-you territory.

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The FJR1300A denotes ABS.
The FJR1300AE has ABS and Electronic shift.
I knew that. Just making sure you're paying attnetion.
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I've seen this (high-speed cruising) mentioned several times. Where does one cruise (for 2 minutes, let alone all day) at that speed?
Montana, Colorado, Wyoming...just to name a few. But nowhere in Ohio Howard. Unless you're feeling VERY daring. I did zip across Indiana's tollroad at triple-digit speeds whilst pacing two rich guys racing their new Bimmers.
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(Now if Kawasaki takes the current but soon-to-be obsolete ZZR1200's motor and puts that in the Connie, and gives the old girl a facelift...EVERYone will be drooling over her. You mark my words...)

That's what I've been waiting for, Joe, but I can't seem to find any news of that ever happening!

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I've seen this (high-speed cruising) mentioned several times. Where does one cruise (for 2 minutes, let alone all day) at that speed? I want to try that some time. I've had the LT to 115 mph briefly, but it was a rural two-lane with a long straight stretch -- prime deer-jumps-in-front-of-you territory.
Uh...West Texas comes to mind.............several hours of uninterupted anything out there!


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(Now if Kawasaki takes the current but soon-to-be obsolete ZZR1200's motor and puts that in the Connie, and gives the old girl a facelift...EVERYone will be drooling over her. You mark my words...)

That's what I've been waiting for, Joe, but I can't seem to find any news of that ever happening!
The latest rumor is the tranformation of the ZX14 into the next Connie. WOOHOO!! (if it happens)


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I gotta agree with Meese for all the reasons he stated.

I love the concours for a quick fun ride and back and forth to work.

You can't beat the KLT for the long haul riding pleasure. I can't speak for the FJR, but I've heard great things from people that own one.

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The latest rumor is the tranformation of the ZX14 into the next Connie. WOOHOO!! (if it happens)
As exciting as that sounds...it's highly unlikely. To rework the current Connie's frame to accommodate the ZZR1200's powerplant would be MUCH more simple than redesigning everything to accommodate the ZX-12R's or ZX-14's motor. Completely different architecture. Worlds apart!

By the way . . . Don't discount the "WOOHOO" factor of the ZZR1200's motor. Imagine a Connie with 135-140bhp at the rear wheel, outta the box.
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I've seen this (high-speed cruising) mentioned several times. Where does one cruise (for 2 minutes, let alone all day) at that speed? I want to try that some time. I've had the LT to 115 mph briefly, but it was a rural two-lane with a long straight stretch -- prime deer-jumps-in-front-of-you territory.
Spend some time in the Soutwest and you will see what we mean.

Western Texas, New Mexico, AZ and CA east of the Laguna mountains are prime areas for 85+ for hours on end. Been there, done that, often. You will hardly raise an eyebrow of even the LEO's in NM and AZ at 85, since the speed limits on much of the interstates is 75. I had a NM trooper pass me once when I was not watching my rear view mirror, and I was doing nearly 90 by GPS. Needless to say that gave me a little scare, but I did not even slow down, since he did not seem to mind.

Certainly not much of that type of area east of the Mississippi!

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I've seen this (high-speed cruising) mentioned several times. Where does one cruise (for 2 minutes, let alone all day) at that speed? I want to try that some time. I've had the LT to 115 mph briefly, but it was a rural two-lane with a long straight stretch -- prime deer-jumps-in-front-of-you territory.
How about here:


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David and Ken: yep, looks like I need to stretch the LT's legs and take her out west. Awesome photo, Ken. Ohio has its own fabulous roads, but of a different sort. (Can you say "Hocking Hills"? -- SE Ohio)

I think doing 85 (or more) in Ohio is a capital crime, according to our friends with the State Highway Patrol.

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As exciting as that sounds...it's highly unlikely. To rework the current Connie's frame to accommodate the ZZR1200's powerplant would be MUCH more simple than redesigning everything to accommodate the ZX-12R's or ZX-14's motor. Completely different architecture. Worlds apart!

By the way . . . Don't discount the "WOOHOO" factor of the ZZR1200's motor. Imagine a Connie with 135-140bhp at the rear wheel, outta the box.
I don't see Kaw re-using the existing frame. I see them utilizing the new ZX14 and changing the chain to shaft, raising the bars and sticking a slightly bigger fairing on her. The Connie frame is too old and outdated to be reused. This next one will be a total rework in my opinion.


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This next one will be a total rework in my opinion.
And that's probably a very true statement, once I gave it a little more thought. But do you have any idea how difficult it is to work on the ZX-12R and/or ZX-14?! The upper-frame IS the air box!!! Valve jobs are a NIGHTMARE! But not for the ZZR1200 . . . that's what I based my statements on. Maintenance issues.
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FJR complements LT

I guess I'm one of the really lucky ones. I dont spend my money on much other than motorcycles so I have an '04 FJR, an '05 LT and a '98 KLR650. I commute 50 miles round trip from the Hill Country of Texas into San Antonio and switch off with the bikes. Each is so different that a couple weeks on one then a switch is like getting a new bike! The FJR is a sweetheart though, and I have 27,000 plus on it. I put a Bill Mayer saddle on and a few other farkles but it was not bad stock. I have friends with Connies and they love them, old tech, slow and all. But I would still go with the FJR for the extra $$. (And there are a few low mileage FJRs out there for $8000 or so, some more, some less.)

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I imagine there are a few more low mileage FJR deals out there now that the '06 bikes are imminent. I also imagine the LT's will be in the same boat in about a year or so.

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I have to say that I agree with the FJR also. I asked about the Connie vs. the FJR on both the FJR and Connie websites, and the FJR people wouldn't have a Connie. Of the Connie people a significant fraction would upgrade to the FJR if money wasn't an issue.
There is, however, the Triumph Rocket Three to consider, not withstanding that it is kind of a cruiser configuration. However, several of the corespondents to this thread wanted a Harley.

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