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"new to me" Wilbers....

I got to ride today!!! Wooo hooo!! It's been several months...various reasons... but it felt REALLY good..

Especially with the new (to me) Wilbers.. OMGoodness... what a difference! The "pogoing", the rattle on bumps gone.. GONE!!!

Tracking.. amazing... seems to take a bit more effort to add lean to a turn... but once in there, it sticks....

Slight reduction of rebound in the front.. a bit more preload on the stern and she was kicking the turns... and hardly wavered in crosswind gusts..

Tomorrow it rains... so, will nee to do something different..

Bike had 32k miles...original shocks.. there is no comparison...
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25K on my Wilbers ..... what an improvement they are
*Be sure to fiddle with rebound settings at each end, a click or three makes a world of difference !!

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Re: "new to me" Wilbers....

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I got to ride today!!! Wooo hooo!! It's been several months...various reasons... but it felt REALLY good..

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Bike had 32k miles...original shocks.. there is no comparison...
That is the same mileage I had when I got my new to me wilbers. Got 60K now and there still doing great!

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Re: "new to me" Wilbers....

I was almost "giddy" as small changes to the shock rebound and preload were glaringly obvious... Amazing...

These shocks have about 30k, but were recently reworked... I need to "set" the handling feel in memory so I can compare when I get 60k or more down the road..

Much of my riding is on fairly good road and I can "dodge"/negotiate around most of them.

Will try to get some more miles in today before "weather" sets in...


This is probably "boring" to folks who have done it, but I think they should install these at the time of purchase..
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Isn't it amazing how RR Xings become a non event and in general the ride is smoother, firmer and more controlled? Congrats Chan.

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Re: "new to me" Wilbers....

I have heard a lot of great things about these, and Ohlins. Chan, I'm glad you love them!

After the "Great Recession" is behind us, this is at the top of my list. I have 42K on the OEMs, and I know that they are near the "end of life".

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Must....resist....

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...................must be.................Kryptonite..................... ..........arrr-r-r-r-r-rgh...............
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...................must be.................Kryptonite..................... ..........arrr-r-r-r-r-rgh...............
Couldn't agree more........every fiber in me says ......."Ya know ya want 'em.".......it is Winter after all.........

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"Bad Deacon.. Bad Deacon..."

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They are WAY past the end of there life

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I have heard a lot of great things about these, and Ohlins. Chan, I'm glad you love them!

After the "Great Recession" is behind us, this is at the top of my list. I have 42K on the OEMs, and I know that they are near the "end of life".

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Brian,

They are WAY past the end of there life
Thanks for those words of encouragement Scott...

You own stock in Wilbers?? heh heh

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Truth be told .... had to sell some stock getting enough coin freed up to buy the pair

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Thanks for those words of encouragement Scott...

You own stock in Wilbers?? heh heh

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I've got 40,600 miles on my factory shocks. I've seen posts about worn shocks allowing the centerstand to drag in curves and such, but that's only happened a few times. Didn't care for the sound it made. People say they're worn out at 20k, 30k, 60k, etc. How can I tell? How can someone who has never ridden my LT, tell me my shocks are worn out just because of a certain number of miles? Looking at that question, it sounds like a [email protected]$$ remark, but that's not how I'm intending it to be. Since the shocks aren't cheap, factory or after-market, and my wife isn't made of money and won't support me in the lifestyle to which I'd like to become accustomed, how do I know the shocks need replacing? The bike doesn't squat during acceleration or nose-dive during braking. It doesn't porpoise across bumps, RR tracks, etc. I don't mind spending the money for maintenance and repairs that are necessary. Just can't go for "the flux capacitor didn't engergize the jujubees, so now the wire harnassment and the fleeglecombobulation control unit won't..." You get the idea. I've read the comments that the poster couldn't believe the difference in the handling.

So, how can I tell? How do I know it's going to make that much difference to me?

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Lee510, The change will be a little at a time, it seems the bumps will get a little louder as the front shock bottoms out, then the biggie is when the mirrors start to fall off a little more frequently. Never could tell if the rear was bad.

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I've got 40,600 miles on my factory shocks........
So, how can I tell? How do I know it's going to make that much difference to me?
Lee,
I, too doubted... yeah, hard to believe hearing that from a deacon... but it is true.

The proof is in the ride. YOU may have hit an exceptional pair of shocks...and they are functioning well enough for your ride style.

I went to the dealer at 6k with "unusual noises" and was told.. "yup.. they all do that, it's just the sound of the suspension working."

Here are specifics I think might help.
- noise.. do you hear rattles from under the front when hitting "potholes"?
- if the roads you ride are relatively smooth, your "shocks" may NOT wear as quickly as others.... it's all about how much they have to WORK.
- springs on the shocks will "weaken" and soften up pretty quick... the springs support the bike and weight... so, loads, impacts/speed of impact will affect the "wear rate"
- do springs have any flaking paint?
- The ride seemed "soft", steering seemed "twitchy" in turns and straight line..
- preload changes on stock rear made ride "harsher".. seemed to feel like it would "lock" at a certain compression...adding oil much better support.. but not like the "W's"
- Removing shocks give you a chance to check other components for "slack", noise/wear.
- "cupping" of tires...
- unsure/slippery feeling in turns (not always the tire's or road surface fault)... tire should stay "stuck" ..

Aside from my limited experience with the Wilburs, Is there anyone "nearby" you who has made the upgrade and would let you "test" ride?

If you were closer we could arrange.

With Spring will come renewed riding interest... so, now is the time for you to find someone on the board who is interested in replacing their shocks... if you guys are close on the shock setup specs, You can, perhaps, offer to pay the shipping... to yourself, try the shocks and see if they make a difference.....

I think if "dealers" of these aftermarket products offered to provide a "test" set, they would sell a LOT more of them.

Sounds like they don't need the money or extra work.
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Lee510, The change will be a little at a time, it seems the bumps will get a little louder as the front shock bottoms out, then the biggie is when the mirrors start to fall off a little more frequently. Never could tell if the rear was bad.

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Thanks, Don,
There is a bit of noise when crossing RR tracks, just like a big rattle. Never have had the mirrors pop off, but they are secured, just in case. Maybe it's time.

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Here are specifics I think might help.
- noise.. do you hear rattles from under the front when hitting "potholes"?
- do springs have any flaking paint?
- The ride seemed "soft", steering seemed "twitchy" in turns and straight line..
- preload changes on stock rear made ride "harsher".. seemed to feel like it would "lock" at a certain compression...adding oil much better support.. but not like the "W's"
- Removing shocks give you a chance to check other components for "slack", noise/wear.
- "cupping" of tires...
- unsure/slippery feeling in turns (not always the tire's or road surface fault)... tire should stay "stuck" ..

Aside from my limited experience with the Wilburs, Is there anyone "nearby" you who has made the upgrade and would let you "test" ride?

If you were closer we could arrange.
Channing, thanks for your response. Your points are most appreciated. Here are the ones I've found apply to me.
-I do have noisy sounding rattle when crossing RR tracks or when on rough pavement.
-I haven't noticed paint coming off the shocks. The front is hidden pretty well, but with the ABS issues I had this year, the rear was very visible.
-Steering seems twitchy in turns. I thought it was just me or the size/weight of the LT.
-Have topped off the shock oil reservior a couple times. Can't really tell much difference.
-Good idea while it's torn apart.
-Have this in a bad way up front.
-There again, I attributed the unsure feeling in turns to me or the size/weight of the LT. The tires don't feel like they're coming "unstuck".

There are several LTers in my area. We have never talked shocks, so I don't know if any have upgraded. Would be worth the question in a PM.

I appreciate the thought of a test ride. Yeah, TX is a little too far away for a day-trip. It sounds like it may be time for me to make a swap anyway. I think you've answered lots of questions. Thanks! And Merry Christmas!

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