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post #1 of 4 Old Oct 29th, 2009, 8:17 pm Thread Starter
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Two Motorcycles Collide: Virginia Crash Study

REPORT # 210: Two Motorcycle Head On CollisionóDouble Fatality


A motorcycle traveling around a curve crossed the centerline and struck a second motorcycle headed in the opposite direction. The drivers of both bikes vaulted forward, striking body to body, and then tumbling to the ground. One driver died immediately from his injuries; the other died while in the process of being transported from the area. Both motorcycles were damaged extensively.***
This crash illustrates the general vulnerability of motorcyclists in crashes, as well as issues with wearing novelty or non-compliant motorcycle helmets. Riding in groups, motorcycle operator endorsements and experience, in addition to timing of toxicology reports and how roadway issues may affect motorcyclists are discussed.

The entire report is available at:

Lori G. Rice, Ph.D.
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Virginia Multi-disciplinary Crash Investigation Team
Transportation Safety Training Center
Virginia Commonwealth University
Phone: 804-828-1031
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Re: Two Motorcycles Collide: Virginia Crash Study

Quite interesting, if rather gruesome report. I have never had a chance to peruse such document before and thus I was fascinated by the level of detail. I read it in full.

However: for me, it contained no revelations and I feel that it offered no new information relevant to my riding.

As I saw it: the collision was caused by failure to stay in lane (very likely, as the report surmises, due to the Softail rider becoming distracted by the group traveling opposite). That is about all that we objectively learn here.

The rest of the paper contains very detailed research, stuffed with info overload, that was ultimately irrelevant. As the author confirms, in this direct collision, helmets were of no use: the fact that they were substandard or not compliant did not matter. Judging by the condition of the motorcycles, no protective gear would have helped short of a RoboCop suit.

The same pertains to driver and vehicle history. Based on the conviction/inspection record, the Road King would have been the dangerous vehicle - yet the crash was caused by the supposedly good and experienced rider.

And so on.

So, my conclusion from this particular fatality is: do not stray out of your lane, do focus on your path. Not much more. And thus not very educating for me.

I certainly do not see the reason for the cookie-cutter recommendations listed in the report, as neither DUI nor helmet compliance nor motorcycle endorsement were factors contributing to this particular collision.

Still, very interesting reading - and, ultimately another reminder of our own vulnerability: "Memento Mori".

Tom, thanks for posting the link.

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Re: Two Motorcycles Collide: Virginia Crash Study


Thanks for posting.

There are a number of accidents reviews at the website.

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Re: Two Motorcycles Collide: Virginia Crash Study

honestly, who gets paid to state what is self evident? won't change a thing in my opinion, except to fan the flames of folks who dont like biking to begin with..just my opionion/observation, although it is a well done report, kudo's in that respect.

maybe they should do one on giant tar patches like the one i just totaled my bike on last week...daym near totaled myself too. shitz happens.
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