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post #1 of 44 Old Apr 29th, 2009, 7:37 pm Thread Starter
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Does your wife also fall asleep on the bike?

Every time we hit the road I talk very seriously to my wife telling her about the dangers of falling asleep while riding a bike as a pillion. She always nods agreeing with my advise, but inevitably falls asleep half an hour after departure: I tried everything to keep her awake: loud music, singing, talking over the intercom, arguing... but nothing seems to work.
Every time I have the feeling of riding on my own, I look back trough the mirror, and there she is, stiff like a pupped, grabbing the handles of the side-trunks. My question is: what should I do?
To change wife is out of question: on one hand it is too expensive ... on the other, the next one might be worst! Should I get armrests to have her more confined in her seat, or should I install safety belts on the rear seat? Or would it be better to leave her at home? Opinons are welcome!

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Get her the armrests... and intercom so you can serenade her...
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+1 on the armrests and intercom (Mudiman's armrests are superb). When her helmet clunks my helmet, I know it's time to wake her up!!

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Get her the armrests... and intercom so you can serenade her...
Plus 1.... My wife and 2 of the grand kids all sleep on the bike. Armrest will keep her in place safe and sound.

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My wife never falls asleep on the LT (yea, right ) but every time I hear the snooring coming over the intercom, I am glad that I have the arm rests.
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No, my wife does not also fall asleep. When I fall asleep, it is imperative that she stay awake!

Really though, she never does. She will read, and actually do her nails if we're on a boring stretch of slab though.

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Re: Does your wife also fall asleep on the bike?

My wife says she has come close several times which means she probably fell asleep. We have the arm rests which makes me feel better. So + on the armrests.

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My wife never falls asleep on the bike or while watching movies. She simply "rests her eyes." I'll fifth the suggestion for armrests. I will says she rests her eyes less on the LT than she did on my Electra Glide. I think the sound, vibration and slightly slower pace lulled her more on that bike.

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I'll look in the mirrors, her head is down, arms hanging over the armrests, feet hanging off the foot pegs, yet, YET, she is not sleeping, oh no, she never sleeps on the bike.
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That is why I put Z-Technique arm rests on the LT - it keeps her on the bike if she falls asleep.

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she falls asleep all the time. when her head falls forward and her helmet hits mine, it wakes both of us up
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Glad to see that my wife isn't the only one falling (clunk) asleep on the LT!

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My wife doesn't fall asleep on the bike. On the other hand I just put 900 miles on the bike last weekend and I managed to fall asleep at the wheel while on the interstate. I work 12 hour shifts at a hospital(night shift). LT good! Night shift, cruise control, long slab of interstate BAD!

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My wife falls asleep, head falls forward, hits my helmut, I'm awake, I'm awake. Good for about 10-15 minutes then repeat.

I bought armrest just for the added safety factor. I've not heard of anyone falling asleep and falling off a bike, that doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

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HMMMM, it seem s I have touched a sensitive issue with my question!!!! What do you believe the FIRST SIGN for falling asleep is: HELMET CLUNKING???? I really don´t know how mine manages to stay stiff on her seat, while grabbing the handles on the side. I also noticed there is less clunking now (on the LT) than in the GS (is it due to the length of the seat + topcase?). Has anybody heard of a pillion that fell off the bike for falling asleep????

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Good gosh, mine does it all the time. She tells me the warm sun on her puts her to sleep and usually the clunk of her helmet hitting mine wakes her up. Don't have arm rest yet, just told her I would attach bungee cords to her to keep her on the bike

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OK this is a tip to "ALL THE SLEEPING WIVES" When (not if ) you start to feel sleepy Tuck your chin down into your chest. This will keep you from "CLUNKING" your helmet into his. This works for my wife .
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My wife has always slept on the back of the bike. Once we get moving with the cruise set she will relax and then she is out.

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Mine sleeps all the time. I also have the Z-Technique arm rests so we don't worry about it. Fortunately she doesn't snore over the intercom and interrupt the music.

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We've been riding for nearly 50 years and my wife has always slept soundly as we've travelled. I installed back rests on all our bikes primarily for her to have something to grip while she snoozes. The LT is the first motorcycle we've had that I installed arm rests on and she feels much more secure with them. On all of our previous machines the helmet clunk was my indicator that she had dozed off but that does not happen nearly as often on the LT for some reason.

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Should´nt they sit on an absorbent cloth, in case they drool during sleep? Seat might get slippery!

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I proposed a pillion "security belt" for touring riders years ago.

The belt ends would attach to the frame with engineered break away fasteners that were strong - but would fail in case of a crash. The relatively stiff and wide belt would fasten in the middle with a simple slide buckle and velcro so that it could be infinitely adjusted for comfort.

The purpose of the belt was twofold: to keep a passenger from falling off if they fell asleep, and to increase perceived security for the pillion.

When I proposed this idea to the group I was soundly bashed and ridiculed.

My feelings were hurt.

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Interestingly enough when I proposed the same idea to a GL1800 owners group it met with enthusiasm - maybe they were running out of new farkles?


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HMMMM, it seem s I have touched a sensitive issue with my question!!!! What do you believe the FIRST SIGN for falling asleep is: HELMET CLUNKING???? I really don´t know how mine manages to stay stiff on her seat, while grabbing the handles on the side. I also noticed there is less clunking now (on the LT) than in the GS (is it due to the length of the seat + topcase?). Has anybody heard of a pillion that fell off the bike for falling asleep????
A couple of years ago a woman fell off the back of a Harley out in the desert near Ajo - this is a loooonnnggg way from any medical care.

She reportedly had on only a halter top and bandana for protection and suffered severe road rash and other injuries. It was reported that she had been drinking and simply fell asleep - or passed out - in the warm sun. I'm pretty sure she survived.

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+1 to both arm rests and intercom. My wife sleeps on the bike from time to time, starting with the first ride on the LT. We got the Starcom Advanced and the Z-Technik arm rests. I suggest you poll your local owners and have her sit in the pillion seat to test out the different styles of arm rests, and then buy & install whatever the lady prefers. The intercom is a valuable add as well since communication keeps the brain more engaged. Both are a good add and farklizing is one of your prime duties as an LT owner.

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When I proposed this idea to the group I was soundly bashed and ridiculed.

My feelings were hurt.
Ron, I have noticed over the years through your posts that you are indeed a caring, sensitive, "fuzzy little ball of love", tender personality kind of guy... So on behalf of the entire group, let me be the first to apologize for any previous bashing, ridiculing, or flaming!

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Ron, I have noticed over the years through your posts that you are indeed a caring, sensitive, "fuzzy little ball of love", tender personality kind of guy... So on behalf of the entire group, let me be the first to apologize for any previous bashing, ridiculing, or flaming!
And I ride with this guy! (You going to apologize to Cuba for the Spanish-American war now? Oh, I think Obama already did that.)

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Mrs. Tallyho has slept on numerous tour bikes over the past 30 years. No armrests. Never even came close to falling off. Does "tuck under" when she's feeling drowsy. What I don't get is how she can be "tired" from all those miles when we arrive!!

I don't know how anyone could fall asleep on the back of most Harleys. We often comment on how we rarely see a happy pillion on them, mostly holding on for dear life!

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W has done this even before the LT joined the fleet. It just happens earlier in the trip with the LT. When she first admitted to it on the old R, I was a bit concerned; she, however, was not. Occasionally, her helmet bonks mine (which wakes us both up!).

My concern, after thousands of miles of this when she's on the back, is now what? She has her own ride - 2008 Spyder (all farkeled out, of course, including Russell seat, Givi, 2-way, etc.) Now she has to stay awake!

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Can't ride for an hour without her nodding off. We don't have armrests but she really exhibits amazing balance.

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Every time we hit the road I talk very seriously to my wife telling her about the dangers of falling asleep while riding a bike as a pillion. She always nods agreeing with my advise, but inevitably falls asleep half an hour after departure: I tried everything to keep her awake: loud music, singing, talking over the intercom, arguing... but nothing seems to work.
Every time I have the feeling of riding on my own, I look back trough the mirror, and there she is, stiff like a pupped, grabbing the handles of the side-trunks. My question is: what should I do?
To change wife is out of question: on one hand it is too expensive ... on the other, the next one might be worst! Should I get armrests to have her more confined in her seat, or should I install safety belts on the rear seat? Or would it be better to leave her at home? Opinons are welcome!
No, my wife has never fallen asleep on the LT nor on my Voyager before that. You obviously need to ride in a more "spirited" manner!


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No never on the bike, just during sex

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What I don't get is how she can be "tired" from all those miles when we arrive!!

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Yes, my wife sleeps quite well on the back of the bike. I used to worry about her falling off, but really, it seems unlikely she would lean any way but front or back.

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Mine sleeps so soundly yelling and loud music into her helmet speakers does nothing ! I have to tilt my head back to push her's or we just klank down the road. She does balance well (threatened to leave her where she falls) and stopping is about the only way to wake her.
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I can relate to the helmet thunking.....

A cheaper alternative to the armrests would be a large piece of industrial strength velcro.
Put the hook part on the backrest and the fiber part of the back of her jacket.
After she's seated, push her against the backrest to make sure that she's secure.
Just a thought.....

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Every time we hit the road I talk very seriously to my wife telling her about the dangers of falling asleep while riding a bike as a pillion. She always nods agreeing with my advise, but inevitably falls asleep half an hour after departure: I tried everything to keep her awake: loud music, singing, talking over the intercom, arguing... but nothing seems to work.
Every time I have the feeling of riding on my own, I look back trough the mirror, and there she is, stiff like a pupped, grabbing the handles of the side-trunks. My question is: what should I do?
To change wife is out of question: on one hand it is too expensive ... on the other, the next one might be worst! Should I get armrests to have her more confined in her seat, or should I install safety belts on the rear seat? Or would it be better to leave her at home? Opinons are welcome!
I'm just happy that my wife wants to ride with me. It gives me an excuse to keep the bike.
She also falls asleep, but the "clunck" is a bit different since I don't wear a helmet
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Ron, I have noticed over the years through your posts that you are indeed a caring, sensitive, "fuzzy little ball of love", tender personality kind of guy... So on behalf of the entire group, let me be the first to apologize for any previous bashing, ridiculing, or flaming!
LOL! I believe I have asked for it! Ever since Joe has been gone there are some big shoes to fill.

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OK this is a tip to "ALL THE SLEEPING WIVES" When (not if ) you start to feel sleepy Tuck your chin down into your chest. This will keep you from "CLUNKING" your helmet into his. This works for my wife .
Thanks to Master Grif for this valuable information.
This, combined with 8 inch height differential, puts her helmet squarely into my spine (glad I have pads in my jacket there).

I've been considering armrests for this same reason.

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very interesting!

now I know what was going on yesterday with the (clunk)....."sorry".... a couple times yesterday. I'll have to ask her if she was nodding off




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But guys, we don't even get charged for the "Sedative Option!"

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Ron, I have noticed over the years through your posts that you are indeed a caring, sensitive, "fuzzy little ball of love", tender personality kind of guy... So on behalf of the entire group, let me be the first to apologize for any previous bashing, ridiculing, or flaming!
Ron uses the term "feelings." I would suggest it's more like FEELING--as in only ONE!

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