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Trip/Route planner

I searched on "trip planner" and "route planner" and didn't find much, but here is what I'm looking for. Does anyone know of a trip planner that allows you to enter routes you wish to take and not just the origin and destination as with most?

I'm looking at something where I can plan a bike trip like I plan a flight and provide origin, routes and destination and then get the distance and time. I know you can use Yahoo Maps and similar and select shortest route and then go city to city on the route you want and usually get pretty close to what I want, but this is tedious for a long trip such as I'm planning now.

I'm considering a trip from PA through Ontario and then across the upper US mostly on route 2 out to Glacier National Park. I then plan to meander around ID and then come back through Yellowstone and some secondary roads through South Dakota, etc. on the return. I like to avoid interstates, but these are the favorite choices of the normal trip planners.

Anyone know of something that will do planning by route rather than just city?

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www.viamichelin.com has a sightseeing option which might be worth a try.

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I use Google, Maps, Get direction, add Destination.
Put in your starting point, then your first destination, then keep adding destinations. If you want to change a destination, delete it, type a new one.
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Try this - and don't give me any crap about it being a Harley Site..LOL

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...p?locale=en_US

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Try this - and don't give me any crap about it being a Harley Site..LOL

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...p?locale=en_US
Thanks. I gave this a quick try tonight and this is a very nice site and is just about what I was looking for. It is very easy to use compared to some of the other planners I have used. Kudos to H-D for providing this.

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Thanks. I gave this a quick try tonight and this is a very nice site and is just about what I was looking for. It is very easy to use compared to some of the other planners I have used. Kudos to H-D for providing this.
I tried it, but it kept giving me an error when I tried to save the route. Did anyone else have that problem? May it knew I rode a BMW....

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I tried it, but it kept giving me an error when I tried to save the route. Did anyone else have that problem? May it knew I rode a BMW....

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I searched on "trip planner" and "route planner" and didn't find much, but here is what I'm looking for. Does anyone know of a trip planner that allows you to enter routes you wish to take and not just the origin and destination as with most?

I'm looking at something where I can plan a bike trip like I plan a flight and provide origin, routes and destination and then get the distance and time. I know you can use Yahoo Maps and similar and select shortest route and then go city to city on the route you want and usually get pretty close to what I want, but this is tedious for a long trip such as I'm planning now.

I'm considering a trip from PA through Ontario and then across the upper US mostly on route 2 out to Glacier National Park. I then plan to meander around ID and then come back through Yellowstone and some secondary roads through South Dakota, etc. on the return. I like to avoid interstates, but these are the favorite choices of the normal trip planners.

Anyone know of something that will do planning by route rather than just city?


I use Delorme Street Atlas ($49.00). set the start, and end points, then add via's or stops. it works quickly, and you can figure your trip costs based on size of tank, mileage, and how many hours you want to drive. I used it when I went from Maine to Dallas and back in 2005. It also has a huge database of along the way features, hotels, gas stations, and a complete phone listing of all listed numbers for the US.
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I use Google, Maps, Get direction, add Destination.
Put in your starting point, then your first destination, then keep adding destinations. If you want to change a destination, delete it, type a new one.
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In addition, in Google Maps, you can use your mouse to drag and drop the route to different roads. Just click and hold the route in the vicinity where you want to make the change, drag it to the new road (you will see the route change in real time) and a pseudo-waypoint will appear where you made the change. If you don't like the change, you can delete those pseudo-waypoints as desired, too.

(Note: "pseudo-waypoint" is my made-up term. Google probably has a better name for it.)
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I tried it, but it kept giving me an error when I tried to save the route. Did anyone else have that problem? May it knew I rode a BMW....

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I had no problem saving once I checked the box accepting the terms and conditions!

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Seems to do the same routes as Garmin's MapSource, but a little more user friendly. Enter address, click GO. Much better map detail. There is a link for GPS Syncronization. Anybody tried the sync yet?

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I had no problem saving once I checked the box accepting the terms and conditions!
When I use Firefox or IE I think there is a box on the top of the save page that you have to enter the ride name. Nothing shows up and I cannot scroll up to enter anything. Is this true? There is no place in the save box to put this ride name.

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IIRC, when I used the route/trip planning web page on the H-D site, I could not save the route for the purpose of downloading it to my Garmin as I was not a HOG member.

When my Harley buddy gave me his HOG ID, I could save the route and managed to download it to the Garmin very easily thereafter.

The routing was exactly what I wanted and the whole process was painless and dead simple -- once I had the HOG membership info.

Very slick and cool. Kudos to Harley-Davidson for such a great tool.

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Seems to do the same routes as Garmin's MapSource, but a little more user friendly. Enter address, click GO. Much better map detail. There is a link for GPS Syncronization. Anybody tried the sync yet?
Yes, I used the GPS sync and it worked fine. The only problem is that my Nuvi 255W accepts only waypoints and not routes, but it took the waypoints just fine. Once I get a real GPS for my LT, I suspect it will work well.

The Harley planner isn't completely what I'm looking for, but it is the closest I've seen thus far ... and the price is right.

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IIRC, when I used the route/trip planning web page on the H-D site, I could not save the route for the purpose of downloading it to my Garmin as I was not a HOG member.

When my Harley buddy gave me his HOG ID, I could save the route and managed to download it to the Garmin very easily thereafter.

The routing was exactly what I wanted and the whole process was painless and dead simple -- once I had the HOG membership info.

Very slick and cool. Kudos to Harley-Davidson for such a great tool.
I didn't have to join HOG to save and synch to my Garmin. I had to register at the site, but that was no big deal and no worse than registering here for the forum. Once I got my username and password so that I could log into the site, I seemed to have nearly full access. I think there are a couple of features that are for HOG members only, but so far nothing I needed.

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So this is a 9 year old thread I'm responding to, in the hopes somebody else is still trying to figure this out. I've tried repeatedly to work with Garmin BaseCamp and with a BS in Computer Science and 20 years of long distance travel experience I still can't get BaseCamp to give me what I need: a clean simple, flexible, detailed route I can load into my GPS V or VI, and then follow or modify as the trip progresses.

I'll go re-read all the above and try each. But anything new, or better?

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Hopefully I can trigger a response from someone else that was at the Des Moines rally seminar about state-of-the-art trip planning. I use Basecamp and really don't have any issues using it for planned rides, so the talk didn't resound with me to do anything different than I was already doing.

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So this is a 9 year old thread I'm responding to, in the hopes somebody else is still trying to figure this out. I've tried repeatedly to work with Garmin BaseCamp and with a BS in Computer Science and 20 years of long distance travel experience I still can't get BaseCamp to give me what I need: a clean simple, flexible, detailed route I can load into my GPS V or VI, and then follow or modify as the trip progresses.

I'll go re-read all the above and try each. But anything new, or better?

Thanks!
After reading your post, I scrolled back to see who started this goofy thread and found that it was me.

The bad news is that in the 9 years since I started this thread, I have looked at several (6 or more) trip planners and none have scratched my itch. So, I still use Basecamp as it is the closest I have found to what I want. I can plan detailed trips and load them accurately into my Nav V. I then use my iPad and Google to look at modifications to the route as the trip progresses. And I use the trip planner function in the Navigator itself to make minor modifications or, many times, just ignore a given dayís route and use the normal ďgo toĒ function if I am making major changes to a given dayís route.

My biggest issue with Basecamp, other than its learning curve and relatively hard to use interface, is that it canít be used while on the road. If Garmin had a version of Basecamp that would run on an iPad, that would be the catís meow.

So, I look at probably one new product a year, but so far I always come back to Basecamp. A few of the planners I have tried are:

Harley trip planner as mentioned earlier in this thread.

Rand McNally (since I still use their Road Atlas for high level trip planning)

Google

MapQuest

And a few ipad apps whose names escape me.

None have really hit the mark for me. In many cases due to not loading well to the GPS. Part of it depends on what you are looking for. What is clean, simple, detailed and flexible to you, may not be to me or to someone else. Basecamp comes closest in capability to what I want so I put up with the learning curve and less than friendly interface. If Garmin provided a mobile version of Basecamp, I would be pretty well set for my needs and wants.

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