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My last week of BMW ownership

This Friday, the new owner of my '06 GT is flying into Cleveland to take her home to Indiana. It's going to be a long week...
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Saturday morning get up and grab the kids, jump in the truck and go play on the four wheelers. It'll make the transition period not so bad.

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Last time I sold a bike, it was sad. Nothing like seeing someone else ride away on your "baby"...

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Sorry for your lost!
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when do you pick up your new Connie? You know thats the one you want....especially in Black.


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Just got back from a 3 day ride from LA to Monterey to Tahoe and back. I went with a good friend who rides a GS (Alan) and a good friend of his (Tim) who rides the new Concours 14. What a beautiful trip, 1,300 miles of bliss!
I have been anxious to compare the new Connie and the GT because I almost waited for the Connie. So on one long stretch of road we did roll-on runs in 6th/5th/4th/ and 3rd gears.

6th gear pull:
this was the biggest difference, we started at about 70mph and twisted the throttle, the GT pulled away from the Connie so easily that I thought maybe he "bogged down" or something. So we did it again, by the time I left off the gas I was over 30 yards ahead of him. He caught up to me, lifted his helmet (he has a modular) and I could see the confusion on his face, a mixture of surprise, dissapointment and disbelief. I was giggleling like a little kid inside my helmet, I knew after the work I had done on the bike she was quick, but DAM!

5th gear pull:
we started at about 65 mph and twisted the throttle, again the GT pulled away easily, but not as fast, by the time I shifted into 6th I was about 15 yards ahead and pulling away.

4th gear pull:
we started at about 60 mph, the GT pulled away but not as fast, when I shifted into 5 gear I was maybe 4 bike lengths in front off him but still pulling away.

3rd gear pull:
we started at about 50 mph, the GT pulled away slowly, and when I shifted into 4th I was about 2 bike lengths away but still pulling away.

We also did a rolling start from 1st gear:
Connie got the jump on me and had a bike length in it's favor, but I was able to run him down and gain a bike length on him before we slowed down.

So it's clear to see that the Connie is at it's strongest in the higher rpm range, but no match at the lower rpm range. My buddy Alan was watching the whole time (we also have the scala rider headsets for bike-to-bike comms) and he was amazed and couldn't believe the GT was outrunning the big bad Concours 14.
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Enjoy your new bike.
That "story" simply doesn't line-up with any comparo I've ever read . . . or the dyno charts that I've seen. Not that it matters anyway. If speed and/or power was my main concern, I'd be buying a 'Busa, ZX-14, or the new V-Max. You silly rabbit!
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I rode a C14, wasn't that impressed. Hope it works better for you.

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I rode a C14, wasn't that impressed. Hope it works better for you.
I was shocked at how badly they cornered and the heat that came off of them. Also, spoiled to the BMW front end.



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It doesn't have to be your last week of BMW ownership -- just the last week of THAT BMW ownership! You may return to the new LT or some other future BMW model. Until then, ride what makes you grin -- like I could tell you that.

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Sorry for your loss?
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Typical man, you never listen! I told you the Connie at track day could not get away from me, even in the straightaway. But, then, you're not listening now either, are you????

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Getting rid of an old bike is like a old GF...you maybe sad for a few days...but has soon as you find that new "ride" your all smiles and forget about that old girl. (not that I know)

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If you by a HD, I will personally come over and knock it over for you.


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Without any emoticons in my post, I'm finding it quite entertaining how all of y'all think that I'm actually . . . err . . . sad.
What a hoot. You guys really do bleed blue & white, doncha?
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you forgot one....RED.
Naw. Not a lot of American-made bike owners in here. A few, but not a lot. Not that I condone such behavior either. But make one mention of buying a bike other than a BMW, and all the eyebrows raise. Quite humorous really.
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Typical man, you never listen! I told you the Connie at track day could not get away from me, even in the straightaway. But, then, you're not listening now either, are you????
It would seem the Connie driver didn't have much skill, then.

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But make one mention of buying a bike other than a BMW, and all the eyebrows raise. Quite humorous really.
Joe, there are many people here who have made the transition to other brands without raising an eyebrow.

The title of this thread is a very clear indication you need attention and shows specifically that you wanted to raise eyebrows. For two months we have had to endure your selling your GT, first in the classifieds here, then on eBay. We could go back through your posts and see a daily chronological flow of every step of this process.

You appear to be choosing between a couple of bikes to replace your GT. Both are great bikes but there is no objective comparison that wouldn't give the nod to the GT as having a superior suspension, less weight, better wind protection, more alternator power and better wind protection. Neither of the other two offer ESA, cruise control or a suspension as smooth and compliant. While an argument could be made for the respective better value, retail for retail, you throw that out the window when you take the hit on depreciation and taxes selling a GT you already own to buy one of those two.

The best I can tell by looking back through your posts that you are selling the GT because it broke once and you fear it might again. That is a valid reason for making the decision, but you really don't need to turn this forum into your personal diary.

I see lots of people on a daily basis, without a BMW in their sig line, adding positive value to this community. Maybe you could get to a point of doing the same, if you could learn to enjoy this community without the constant need for attention.

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Joe, there are many people here who have made the transition to other brands without raising an eyebrow.

The title of this thread is a very clear indication you need attention and shows specifically that you wanted to raise eyebrows. For two months we have had to endure your selling your GT, first in the classifieds here, then on eBay. We could go back through your posts and see a daily chronological flow of every step of this process.

You appear to be choosing between a couple of bikes to replace your GT. Both are great bikes but there is no objective comparison that wouldn't give the nod to the GT as having a superior suspension, less weight, better wind protection, more alternator power and better wind protection. Neither of the other two offer ESA, cruise control or a suspension as smooth and compliant. While an argument could be made for the respective better value, retail for retail, you throw that out the window when you take the hit on depreciation and taxes selling a GT you already own to buy one of those two.

The best I can tell by looking back through your posts that you are selling the GT because it broke once and you fear it might again. That is a valid reason for making the decision, but you really don't need to turn this forum into your personal diary.

I see lots of people on a daily basis, without a BMW in their sig line, adding positive value to this community. Maybe you could get to a point of doing the same, if you could learn to enjoy this community without the constant need for attention.
Oh my god, here we go at it again.

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"joelurker". Perhaps he should stick with his strengths.
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It would seem the Connie driver didn't have much skill, then.
Apparently you haven't seen Deb ride her GT. The Connie rider could have been quite skilled and not been able to get away from her.

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... I see lots of people on a daily basis, without a BMW in their sig line, adding positive value to this community...
Hmm, apparently you're not one of them, Mr. 14 posts in 3 years.

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Does that mean the last week of Joe??????

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The title of this thread is a very clear indication you need attention and shows specifically that you wanted to raise eyebrows.
So, I see you've already met Joe.

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The best I can tell by looking back through your posts that you are selling the GT because it broke once and you fear it might again. That is a valid reason for making the decision, but you really don't need to turn this forum into your personal diary.
Ah, now maybe you haven't.

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Maybe you could get to a point of doing the same, if you could learn to enjoy this community without the constant need for attention.
Ah, now I definitely know that you haven't.

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...The title of this thread is a very clear indication you need attention and shows specifically that you wanted to raise eyebrows. For two months we have had to endure your selling your GT, first in the classifieds here, then on eBay. We could go back through your posts and see a daily chronological flow of every step of this process...

I see lots of people on a daily basis, without a BMW in their sig line, adding positive value to this community. Maybe you could get to a point of doing the same, if you could learn to enjoy this community without the constant need for attention.
Whoa there, cowboy. Disregarding for a moment your perception of someone's need for anything, when all is distilled down you'll find that Joe has contributed a TON of useful, straight-up technical information to this site, interspersed with personal commentary on products from bikes to boots and everything in between, based on years of practical experience. Anyone's comments can be subjective ("I like this color") to objective, but Joe has contributed too much to be dismissed so easily.

Has he been at or near the center of some controversies? Yep, and I can think of several others who have, also. You don't need to endure anything from anyone on this site: just use the Ignore feature and you'll never be burdened again. Another choice would be to simply ignore the threads started by anyone in whose passion you don't want to share.

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So, I see you've already met Joe.

Ah, now maybe you haven't.

Ah, now I definitely know that you haven't.
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Whoa there, cowboy. Disregarding for a moment your perception of someone's need for anything, when all is distilled down you'll find that Joe has contributed a TON of useful, straight-up technical information to this site, interspersed with personal commentary on products from bikes to boots and everything in between, based on years of practical experience. Anyone's comments can be subjective ("I like this color") to objective, but Joe has contributed too much to be dismissed so easily.

Has he been at or near the center of some controversies? Yep, and I can think of several others who have, also. You don't need to endure anything from anyone on this site: just use the Ignore feature and you'll never be burdened again. Another choice would be to simply ignore the threads started by anyone in whose passion you don't want to share.
What they said.

I''ve been here only since July... and I for one ... will miss the messenger13 commentary on the world... oh wait... I have a hard time believing Mr Messenger13 (where the hell does somebody come up with such a ridiculous handle here I don't know)... will be able to refrain from adding his .0002 cents worth to any dialog... Saturday morning.. or any day thereafter...

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Hmm, apparently you're not one of them, Mr. 14 posts in 3 years.
Hey, I don't have a BMW in my sig line

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I didn't realise I was dissin' a community treasure. My apologies.

I'll try to stay out of discussions until I have sufficient stature.

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What they said.

I''ve been here only since July... and I for one ... will miss the messenger13 commentary on the world... oh wait... I have a hard time believing Mr Messenger13 (where the hell does somebody come up with such a ridiculous handle here I don't know)... will be able to refrain from adding his .0002 cents worth to any dialog... Saturday morning.. or any day thereafter...
What does it matter to you who chooses what for their site name? If you want to go toe-to-toe and discuss technical issues, politics, or anything else, that's what some of the forums on this site are for. If all you "got" (a little street lingo here) is criticism of someone's user name, you need to stay on the porch.

Why don't you ask Joe where the name comes from?

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Dang it! Just when I wanted to dislike you, you go a redeem yourself with a comment like that!
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What does it matter to you who chooses what for their site name? If you want to go toe-to-toe and discuss technical issues, politics, or anything else, that's what some of the forums on this site are for. If all you "got" (a little street lingo here) is criticism of someone's user name, you need to stay on the porch.

Why don't you ask Joe where the name comes from?
Hey Howard, I could be wrong, but I think Asleepless knight was being just a wee bit sarcastic when he poked fun at my username. Surely he has no room to talk.
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It would seem the Connie driver didn't have much skill, then.
Man, that is a really low, under handed slap at Deb's riding abilities. I'll ride with Deb anytime, anywhere. That gal can smoothe blow your socks off in the twisty stuff. And to make matters worse, she has a young daughter that will put your tail between your legs, too.



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Hey Howard, I could be wrong, but I think Asleepless knight was being just a wee bit sarcastic when he poked fun at my username. Surely he has no room to talk.
You may be right. If so, it went right over my head. Pardon me while I go over to the corner and remove my foot from my mouth. We'll have to wait and see.

I was tempted to take the low road and comment on his user name, my user name, anyone's user name, but I wanted to keep it respectful. Asleeplessknight, I hope you read it that way.

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I was tempted to take the low road and comment on his user name, my user name, anyone's user name, but I wanted to keep it respectful.
Yeah, just what is up with that silly, ol' user name of yours?



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What does it matter to you who chooses what for their site name? If you want to go toe-to-toe and discuss technical issues, politics, or anything else, that's what some of the forums on this site are for. If all you "got" (a little street lingo here) is criticism of someone's user name, you need to stay on the porch.

Why don't you ask Joe where the name comes from?
Get over yourself Hschisler, I was joking! geez... get a grip MAN! >>> what the guy with the funky name said... what was it.. messenger floor between 12 and 14?


.... and what's wrong with... A.... sleepless... (k)night? Hmmmmm? gotta like the simile... come on.. you know you like it.

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Get over yourself Hschisler, I was joking! geez... get a grip MAN! >>> what the guy with the funky name said... what was it.. messenger floor between 12 and 14?


.... and what's wrong with... A.... sleepless... (k)night? Hmmmmm? gotta like the simile... come on.. you know you like it.
So noted!

OK, so my particular affliction is I read these things and tend to reply... too quickly. Sorry.

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hschisler - There must be a pin we can get.. I know I deserve one with stars!

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Ah, GT. I was thinking LT. I stand corrected and my apologies to Deb.

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I'll try to stay out of discussions until I have sufficient stature.
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Treasure? I wouldn't go THAT far, but then I have been said to be sarcastic at times. Lets just say, no apology needed.

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Just bustin your balls.....I love to see Joe take a bash anytime from anyone.....

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Hey Howard, I could be wrong, but I think Asleepless knight was being just a wee bit sarcastic when he poked fun at my username. Surely he has no room to talk.
I think Asleeplessknight is an anagram of "Seeks Lasting help"

perhaps someone is trying to tell us something? where as Joe would be,

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