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Only in the real tight stuff (ala 'Deal's gap'), do I suffer from nausea. At the midway point, sometimes I have to pull over for fear that I'm going to hurl in my helmet. Not good. I've tried just about every other remedy in the book, and nothing helps. A friend of mine asked me if I've ever tried taking Dramamine? (They do make a non-drowsy formula.) But no, I haven't. Hhmmn... Got me to wondering. What says you?
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Gretchen says the Dramamine makes her drowsy but the Bonine does not. I take neither so can't comment on effects and effectiveness of either.

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You're going to think I've TOTALLY lost it Joe , but you may want to try a Neti pot for a couple of weeks. A lot of people have unchecked sinus pressure that can cause dizziness and resulting nausea. Make sure you use uniodized salt and a pinch of baking soda as a buffer.

This has changed my life, and was recommended by the Allergist I go to - he is an old German Doc, having written several books. He's also a teaching professor and lectures internationally.

Oh yeah - I don't snore anymore and sleep soundly all night long.

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Making a mental note here: Do not ride "BEHIND" Joe...Okay, back to our regular scheduled program.

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NO DRAMAMINE !

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NO DRAMAMINE !

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How you feel about Ketamine?

Joe's as big as a HORSE!
might work.

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Re: Anyone take Dramamine when riding?

Try the wrist bands with the "button" that goes over the pressure points on your arm, just behind your wrists. The only time I need them is when I do air-to-air photography on hot days, but they work, as Dramamine makes me very sluggish and sleepy. Also, might try looking far down the road, where you are headed, which was a trick taught to me in Skip Barbers school. Looking to close to the vehicle's front can get you disoriented.

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A lot of people have unchecked sinus pressure that can cause dizziness and resulting nausea.
After my wife started going to the chiropractor for her lower back, her sinus headaches completely went away. Sometimes, these things are related in ways that we just can't see.

I have learned to keep daytime non-drowsy sinus tablets on the bike though. I caught hay fever really bad one day, way out in the middle of nowhere. I couldn't see, and Dayle can't pilot the bike . . .

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Making a mental note here: Do not ride "BEHIND" Joe...Okay, back to our regular scheduled program.
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Only in the real tight stuff (ala 'Deal's gap'), do I suffer from nausea. At the midway point, sometimes I have to pull over for fear that I'm going to hurl in my helmet. Not good. I've tried just about every other remedy in the book, and nothing helps. A friend of mine asked me if I've ever tried taking Dramamine? (They do make a non-drowsy formula.) But no, I haven't. Hhmmn... Got me to wondering. What says you?
Joe, you might want to give TransdermScop (a prescription patch for sea sickness) a try. If you have bradycardia or glaucoma, you can't use it. It also dilates your pupils and can make your eyes sensitive to bright sunlight (have to wear sunglasses). It's a patch you can wear for up to 3 days.

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USUALLY sea sickness (is the same thing) come from one thing: The brain gets sensory inputs from your inner ear that do not coincide with the inputs it gets from other senses. What that means is that when you are in a curve AND you move your head at the same time the resulting force vectors are NOT aligned with anything your brain is used to receive. The reaction of your brain to the conflicting peaces of information is a state of confused and since it still ties to resolve that situation SOMEHOW it get seasick.

In general the easy way to resolve this is to keep your head still and do NOT look at objects that move fast (like the asphalt right in front of you) I know this is easier said than done when riding on the gap, but this is the reason and the solution nonetheless.

This is also the reason why many folks get car sick (same thing) looking left and right while the car is turning. and the worst form is to look left and right when you are in an airplane that turns. Which is the reason why most folks that loose it in an airplane loose it when the plane is on approach (generally there are a number of turns involved at approach)

So bottom line: Keep your head still when you are in curves. work with your eyes, and don't look down, down look to the side, look forward. The further forward you look, the better.

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After my wife started going to the chiropractor for her lower back, her sinus headaches completely went away. Sometimes, these things are related in ways that we just can't see.
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Joe this may be your answer. The problem may be you are not breathing enough . Our mental focus is on nailing the ride and we involuntary arrest the basics. Example countless pit boards at the start of a race tell the rider to breathe.

Ken with out boring you with the neurology associated with your wife's sinus condition the key for her sinus problem is the C1, C2 vertebra .I hope she is doing well with her low back condition.
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Folks, I have done several track days ... never an issue. I know quite well how to look far ahead. Speed is certainly not the issue as well. I've tried intense breathing. I've tried drinking plenty of fluids. I've tried several head-positioning techniques. Nothing has worked.

Keep in mind that only a few roads in the whole country do this to me. This is not a very common occurrence at all. Perhaps if you guys rode with me on the Gap, you might get nauseous too. If I ride slower on the Gap, it does not happen. It's only when I really start flying ... which is why it really bums me out.

The first thing I'm going to try is the Bonine. If that doesn't work, I'll get "the patch". And if that fails, I'll just try smoking pot like Ron suggested.

Thanks for all of your time.
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The herbal remedy for motion sickness, without any side affects, is ginger. It's also good for an upset stomache.



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Joe the Riding God's have cursed me with Meniere's disease, basically fluid build up in the inner ear. Symptoms are Nausea, deafness, dizziness, vertigo. My last episode was in the Mountains at Rangos Red River Roundup this year. Was not fun trying to get back down. Luckily Jeff had my back door all the way down.

What really helps me (most of the time ) is Meclizine HCI Tablets ( anti vertigo pills ). They do make you a little drowsy, but you can still ride.

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Joe:

I did a few hours of research for you (no charge) and found the ultimate device available in France for your condition. It's more attractive than the Neti pot.

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I did a few hours of research for you (no charge) and found the ultimate device available in France for your condition. It's more attractive than the Neti pot.

http://www.phisick.com/a7nc1.htm
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I bet Rafy has a set of lites you can mount on that.

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Okay,

I don't EVEN want to know where you attach THAT thing and I sure as hell don't want to see the pictures.

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Joe the Riding God's have cursed me with Meniere's disease, basically fluid build up in the inner ear. Symptoms are Nausea, deafness, dizziness, vertigo. My last episode was in the Mountains at Rangos Red River Roundup this year. Was not fun trying to get back down. Luckily Jeff had my back door all the way down.

What really helps me (most of the time ) is Meclizine HCI Tablets ( anti vertigo pills ). They do make you a little drowsy, but you can still ride.

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I don't know a out riding but I sure wish I had something when I was fishing on Erie on Friday. I was sick as a dog!
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