Well, they finally got me - BMW Luxury Touring Community
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 20 Old Sep 26th, 2008, 10:53 am Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Lake Zurich (near chicago), IL, USA
Posts: 708
Well, they finally got me

Trailered my '05 Yamaha R1 down from Chicago to Lexington, KY with 3 other buddy's. We like to sport ride all the good roads from mid, Kentucky down to North Carolina and hit all the curvy stuff in between.

Rt 66 is an awesome little gem of a road the runs from Oneida to Straight Creek. About 45 miles of 25-35 MPH indicated corners with the odd 15 MPH hairpin every so often. We had been runing for about 150 miles that morning and were really cooking on rt 66. I was leading and passed a huge coal truck and then knifed through a tight left that opened up to a downhill short straight. As I viewed the upcoming 15MPH decreasing radius left I felt a little flutter in my gut as I noticed the 4x4 foot caked on pool of oil right at the end of the straight. I thought to myself.."stay of the brake till you pass the oil" I managed to do that and tried to brake hard and then let off and take the left. I was probably doing about 35 when the front end hit the coal dust which I couldn't see and wouldn't have mattered if I did...no more road anyway. Went down hard on my left side and slid a good 20 feet into the brush.

Strange thing is even after I came to a stop I still heard that awful sound of scraping of a bike sliding on pavement.....turns out my buddy Ricky was doing a great imitation of my little get-off.

Buddy number 3 saw the whole thing and decided to run wide to the left and stopped in the opposite lane...lucky for him there was no oncoming traffic. Number 4 was taking it easy and was able to stop before the oil slick.

Got up and felt ok except for the shooting pains in my shoulder. Bike was damaged lightly on the top and side fairings and a slightly bent shift lever.

We got both bikes out of the ditch and pointed them back North figuring our trip was over and we needed get back to the trailer that was about 3 hours away. Not sure how I managed to ride it back(Xrays the next day showed a broken collar bone). I could ride one handed ok but reaching down to clutch for starts and stops was pretty painful. (My buddy didn't go to the doc for a week and then found out he separated his shoulder). We got the bikes back on the trailer and drove home.

We talked a lot about this accident. Last year a couple guys lost it in a sandy corner and the year before two others went wide in a corner. All of us have extensive sport bike experience with multiple track days and instruction. Tires are always near new and we ride in full gear. The problem it seems is you can not predict what the next corner will entail. On the track you can see them and you know it is clean. On the street.....we all agreed that you just can't run at these speeds without the very real chance of getting into an unmanageable situation. Looks we may have to slow it down a bit and save the top speeds for the track.

Posted here so others may think twice on that next trip to the twisties.

Ron
byke33 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 20 Old Sep 26th, 2008, 11:04 am
Senior Member
 
Allred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Riverton, Utah, USA
Posts: 155
Re: Well, they finally got me

Glad you weren't hurt any more than you've described, nor your bike more seriously damaged. I imagine it could have been worse.

A couple of years ago, three of 9 riders on our Mexico mountain trip went down in the same spot of spilled diesel fuel, in a blind corner on Mexico hi-way 16, a fun & curvy mountain road, which we came upon without warning. One hurt pretty badly. The group was riding at a moderately brisk pace, no where near all-out, but the diesel didn't care.

Since then I've ridden with more respect for unexpected hazards and mortality. I think your experience, and the telling of it, will help others think about it too, and save their all-out performance for track days.

Let's all be careful out there!

Bob Allred
Riverton, Utah
'03 K1200LT
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2 old Airheads & 1 Oilhead



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Allred is offline  
post #3 of 20 Old Sep 26th, 2008, 11:32 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: , , USA
Posts: 607
Re: Well, they finally got me

"All of us have extensive sport bike experience with multiple track days and instruction."

And now you've found out (the hard way) that speed is best confined to the track......

Beautify America - Get a Tattoo!
2002 K1200LT (going, going, GONE)
Tat_n_Telle is offline  
 
post #4 of 20 Old Sep 26th, 2008, 1:22 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Lake Zurich (near chicago), IL, USA
Posts: 708
Re: Well, they finally got me

well we certainly don't ride at track pace on the street.....in fact we always talk pre-ride about easing up on the straights and giving each other room and dialing it down. It is just very hard to not quicken up the pace on a nice sunny day when your riding with your good friends on a highly tuned sportbike...sometimes good judgement gets replaced with adrenaline and testosterone.

Ron
byke33 is offline  
post #5 of 20 Old Sep 26th, 2008, 2:42 pm
Senior Member
 
Wolfgang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Budapest, Hungary
Posts: 2,269
Re: Well, they finally got me

Quote:
Originally Posted by byke33
my left side and slid a good 20 feet into the brush.

The problem it seems is you can not predict what the next corner will entail. On the track you can see them and you know it is clean. On the street.....we all agreed that you just can't run at these speeds without the very real chance of getting into an unmanageable situation. Looks we may have to slow it down a bit and save the top speeds for the track.

Posted here so others may think twice on that next trip to the twisties.

Ron
My pet peeve... Also the main reason I am generally not comfortable riding in groups. I love the company and the social aspect of it. But over and over I find myself running with otherwise very reasonable folks that go over blind hills or around blind curves with a confidence that I don't have. I want to be able to stop within my line of sight. Don't get me wrong, I dont ride like a grand father (even so I am one) I just like to see were I am going.

Wolfgang

K1200LT 1999 Champaign SOLD
R1100RS 1994 Teal SOLD
R1150RT 2003 Blue (Sold)
R1100RT 1997 Blue


Pest, Budapest Hungary

"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness."
Mark Twain

Wolfgang is offline  
post #6 of 20 Old Sep 26th, 2008, 3:37 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Lake Zurich (near chicago), IL, USA
Posts: 708
Re: Well, they finally got me

I think it is a matter of building up to much confidence...I have not had an street accident in 12 years. It has been 25 years since I got injured on the street. I was feeling so good and confident in the hours before the accident that I forgot to keep myself in check. The road will teach you the lessons you need.....some times the price of that education is higher then we like. I figure a little body damage both bike and personal wasn't too bad a price this time...got lucky I guess. Gear (full BMW enduro suit and Shoei RF1000, Held gloves and Sidi boots all did there job .

And you are right....I could not stop my bike in the distance needed to avoid the hazard so by definition...I was riding too fast for conditions.

Ron
byke33 is offline  
post #7 of 20 Old Sep 26th, 2008, 5:03 pm
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Weaverville , NC, USA
Posts: 84
Re: Well, they finally got me

Quote:
Originally Posted by byke33
Number 4 was taking it easy and was able to stop before the oil slick.
Kudos to rider number 4

Howard Dusenbery 2000 K1200LTC
HDusenbery is offline  
post #8 of 20 Old Sep 26th, 2008, 6:37 pm
Senior Member
 
dsauer608's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Golden, CO, USA
Posts: 845
Re: Well, they finally got me

Glad you're pretty much ok, and your bike can be fixed. It was fun up until the crash, wasn't it?

Dean and Deb
Golden, CO


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dsauer608 is offline  
post #9 of 20 Old Sep 26th, 2008, 7:18 pm
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 609
Re: Well, they finally got me

Hey we all have counted our blessings occasionally......I will not begrudge any rider the "twistin it in the twisties", it is that adrenaline or near it that brings many to the two wheel world.....it is that 1st, then maybe wind in the face as we grow older .

Glad everyone is mostly OK and don't succumb to scoldings you receive here!! It could have happened when not pushing it...just as easy.

Mike
shadowofshoe is offline  
post #10 of 20 Old Sep 27th, 2008, 12:06 am
Senior Member
 
WildBil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Rolling Meadows, IL, USA
Posts: 912
Re: Well, they finally got me

Ron,

Sounds like you did the best you could and that ATGATT did its part - very glad you did what your experience taught you and that you are okay to write about it.

As they say in pilot school, a safe landing is one you walk away from. Hope the pain goes away soon.

Wish you the best. Sorry your trip ended so early.

Bill

wild bil
07 K1200LT Biarritz Blau
80 Yamaha XS850 Black - retired in 06
WildBil is offline  
post #11 of 20 Old Sep 27th, 2008, 12:29 am
Senior Member
 
motorhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Old Hangtown, CA, USA
Posts: 2,406
Re: Well, they finally got me

Bummer on the both of you crashing ....

But look at the bright side, you have now graduated to the other type of rider? .... Ah, glad you asked

There are basically two types of riders, tho who have gone down ... and those who will.

You are now the wiser of the two

"00" Canyon Red LTI ~ Well Farklized ~ Bug Splattered
Our "semi" quiet riot
*** Trailer Too ***

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
T
wisties Required
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

motorhead is offline  
post #12 of 20 Old Sep 27th, 2008, 12:42 am
THE Democracy Doctor
 
jayjacobson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: We LOVE illegals and Socialists, Sunny, Southern Kommyfornia,
Posts: 5,694
Re: Well, they finally got me

I hope "they" all slow down a little on the next ride!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
jayjacobson is offline  
post #13 of 20 Old Sep 27th, 2008, 8:30 am
Senior Member
 
grifscoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Outside New Braunfels , TX, USA
Posts: 13,451
Re: Well, they finally got me

Some of y'all prolly don't know that Ron is a helluva rider. He has to be to keep up with a certain New Zealander. He also works on honing and improving riding skills. If you get the opportunity to talk with him, you'll notice he's not stupid.

To clarify "helluva rider", I'd say his riding skills would blow about 90% of us into the dirt.

He came here to pass along a learning experience and I knew as soon as I read it that he'd be chastised- subtly, or not- intentionally, or not.

I see this chatisement as a plumber in an operating room giving a surgeon advice.



100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

-=grif=-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Grok
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
grifscoots is offline  
post #14 of 20 Old Sep 27th, 2008, 9:03 am
Senior Member
 
hoog62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
Posts: 2,862
Re: Well, they finally got me

Quote:
Originally Posted by grifscoots
I see this chatisement as a plumber in an operating room giving a surgeon advice.
Sorry, but even a plumber knows that surgery belongs in an operating room.

Dave Hoogerland

'08 Triumph Tiger 1050 ABS
'02 K1200LTC "The Silver Snoopy" (gone but not forgotten)
'08 Can-Am Spyder "???"

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
hoog62 is offline  
post #15 of 20 Old Sep 27th, 2008, 9:24 am
Senior Member
 
NCrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Raleigh-ish, NC, USA
Posts: 619
Re: Well, they finally got me

Thanks for the reminder and I hope you heal completely, and soon.
NCrider is offline  
post #16 of 20 Old Sep 27th, 2008, 1:34 pm
Senior Member
 
gunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Kings Mountain, NC, USA
Posts: 3,089
Re: Well, they finally got me

Ron:

Bummer. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. Could have been a whole lot worse, you arrived alive and thats what counts.

Hope you heal well in a timely manner.

I went down on my left side back in '78 from loose gravel in a curve, maybe 25 mph or so. Landed on my elbow. Picked it up and rode home, next day had a very sore shoulder. Next month going to finally have it fixed. Seems when I hit, the cushion between the bones, in this case the collar bone and whatever one it is connected to, got squished out and all these years its been bone on bone. Not looking forward to the surgery but looking forward to having a shoulder that works without pain.

Come on down the North Carolina and I'll show you some nice roads, not the Dragon or the BRP either.

Hey, it stopped raining and the sky is clearing, I'm going for a ride.

B D R
gunny is offline  
post #17 of 20 Old Sep 27th, 2008, 1:47 pm
Senior Member
 
grifscoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Outside New Braunfels , TX, USA
Posts: 13,451
Re: Well, they finally got me

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoog62
Sorry, but even a plumber knows that surgery belongs in an operating room.
At least both professions are in the same income bracket.

There's stories of surgeons performing surgery in the oddest places. While it may belong to a specific theatre, it doesn't always come down that way, either by choice or circumstances.

Then there is that rumour of the mad man taking turns on a certain three wheel vehicle. Hey, shit happens.



100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

-=grif=-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Grok
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
grifscoots is offline  
post #18 of 20 Old Sep 27th, 2008, 2:08 pm
Senior Member
 
hoog62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
Posts: 2,862
Re: Well, they finally got me

Quote:
Originally Posted by grifscoots
Then there is that rumour of the mad man taking turns on a certain three wheel vehicle. Hey, shit happens.
An out patient procedure at best...

Dave Hoogerland

'08 Triumph Tiger 1050 ABS
'02 K1200LTC "The Silver Snoopy" (gone but not forgotten)
'08 Can-Am Spyder "???"

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
hoog62 is offline  
post #19 of 20 Old Sep 27th, 2008, 2:14 pm
Senior Member
 
grifscoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Outside New Braunfels , TX, USA
Posts: 13,451
Re: Well, they finally got me

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoog62
An out patient procedure at best...




100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

-=grif=-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Grok
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
grifscoots is offline  
post #20 of 20 Old Sep 27th, 2008, 9:27 pm
THE Democracy Doctor
 
jayjacobson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: We LOVE illegals and Socialists, Sunny, Southern Kommyfornia,
Posts: 5,694
Re: Well, they finally got me

Quote:
Originally Posted by grifscoots
....I see this chatisement as a plumber in an operating room giving a surgeon advice.
Actually, Grif, the plumber was more like shootin' the shit with the surgeon as he unplugged the sink--in the operating room....Kinda like all those congress people pretending to know shit about finances--minus the TRILLION dollar price tag and the surgeon's malpractice insurance!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
jayjacobson is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the BMW Luxury Touring Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Finally! Finally! Finally! eljeffe Chit Chat 16 Sep 9th, 2008 7:54 am
Finally got to Ride!!! living_free K1200LT 1 Mar 27th, 2008 8:11 pm
Finally Got The Darn Cb To Work Lynn_Keen Intercom, CB, & 2-Way Radios 3 Feb 9th, 2007 3:13 pm
Finally went south....crown bearing OKUIII K1200LT 2 Jun 26th, 2006 9:09 am
finally a bmw dealer in miami printman K1200LT 0 Oct 10th, 2005 3:33 pm

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome