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OK--sort of. Rode it home. Didn't go down, deer is dead...

Progressive adjuster will be here Tuesday. I'm pretty sure the fork is bent. She says I can take it to any cycle shop and it's just a matter of them being able to get parts. I do have a shop locally that I would trust but I'm really leaning towards trailering it to Green Bay--200 miles.

Thoughts on taking a BMW to a non BMW shop for crash repairs--Please?

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Of course the a.m. I hit the deer the ABS lights were flashing and I figured it was because, while I cleaned out the bags the night before, and put foul weather stuff in I was listening to the CD player...probably about a half hour. I think the battery was drained a little bit. Of course I locked the brakes when I saw the deer and skidded 20-25'. I do believe if the ABS was working I would have missed it.

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Brian, glad you're OK! Sounds like you went straight into it (rather than a glancing blow)?

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use BMW dealer only....just in case.


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Glad to hear you are ok.

I would take it to BMW. I think that there might be less hassle with the insurance company.

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Glad you killed that dammed horned rat....

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Thanks guys.

I was absolutely leaning towards the BMW dealer but I got a vibe from the adjuster "well take it wherever you want, but anyone can work on it" Kind of a motorcycles are motorcycles thing... I haven't met her yet--maybe I totally misread her attitude on the phone.

Yes it was a pretty straight/square hit. Except for the noise (wow) locking the brakes was more dramatic than actually hitting the deer.

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I wouldn't take it anywhere but a BMW dealer. Glad you are okay.

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Hijack alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In April, on my way to to STC, I had a run in with a deer too and the LT won!

Short version-

Riding down the Blue Ridge Pkwy, see the deer 1/2 mile away standing in the roadway. I slow down and come almost to a complete stop- 20-30 ft away from the deer. I tap my horn the deer takes off.

I watch it go off to the left. Either I was still moving or I had begun to to throttle up when the deer's two friends come from the right directly in front of me. One of the horned rats legs hits the front fender and goes tail over in in front of me. Scares the sh*t out of me and I end up dropping the LT.

Luckily, a Park Ranger and Mailman saw all of this, and after having a good laugh, helped me pick up the Light Truck. I rode away with my pride between my legs and some minor scuffs on chrome bag trim.

Now back on point, bring her to a Beemer shop only!

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OK--sort of. Rode it home. Didn't go down, deer is dead...

Progressive adjuster will be here Tuesday. I'm pretty sure the fork is bent. She says I can take it to any cycle shop and it's just a matter of them being able to get parts. I do have a shop locally that I would trust but I'm really leaning towards trailering it to Green Bay--200 miles.

Thoughts on taking a BMW to a non BMW shop for crash repairs--Please?

Thanks

Of course the a.m. I hit the deer the ABS lights were flashing and I figured it was because, while I cleaned out the bags the night before, and put foul weather stuff in I was listening to the CD player...probably about a half hour. I think the battery was drained a little bit. Of course I locked the brakes when I saw the deer and skidded 20-25'. I do believe if the ABS was working I would have missed it.
You skidded 20-25 feet?? Front wheel lock up?? You can not lock up the front brake and not go down. Depending on the speed a person may lock up the front brake maybe a second.

From what you reported ABS would have not helped. You stated that you did not go down and that is what ABS does. ABS does not reduce stopping distance. A good rider can out stop a ABS equip motorcycle. ABS is just a mode and you do not want to be in that mode everytime when stopping. ABS is there if a rider over brakes and locks the brakes.

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Brian,

Thank goodness you're okay. I'm impressed that you kept it upright despite no ABS and locking your brakes.

As for the deer - did you field dress it?
(use Homer Simpson voice) "Hmmmm, venison steaks on the BBQ..."

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Brian,

Thank goodness you're okay. I'm impressed that you kept it upright despite no ABS and locking your brakes.

As for the deer - did you field dress it?
(use Homer Simpson voice) Hmmmm, venison steaks on the BBQ.
He didn't field dress it, but Sarah Palin happened to be driving by on a campaign run, so she did!

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He didn't field dress it, but Sarah Palin happened to be driving by on a campaign run, so she did!
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"You skidded 20-25 feet?? Front wheel lock up?? You can not lock up the front brake and not go down. Depending on the speed a person may lock up the front brake maybe a second."

Um...yeah, you want pictures of the two equally long skid marks? I really doubt they were locked for more than a second. I absolutely agree that it was 99% luck even though I have been riding for 37 years.

The reason ABS would have helped is because the bike was totally out of control with the wheels locked. ABS likely would have allowed me to maneuver...

The deputy offered me the deer as it didn't have much damage...other than the broken neck" It's too bad but I just plain had to get to work.

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Brian,

I believe you, but I'd still love to see the pics!

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I'll take some photos tomorrow---of course then I'll have to figure out how to post them.
Just to see if I was out of my mind...I did go measure the marks yesterday and there are still (after 5 days and two days of rain) 29' from one tire(I'm assuming the front) and 44' from the other.

Now math in my head, and not allowing for the potential slowing factor, that is .4 and .6 seconds respectively if I were going 50mph--just to make the math easier since the speed limit is 35... So Mr 587 got one thing right--you probably can't keep a bike up, with the front brake locked for more than a second.

I have heard the "a good rider can stop a bike faster without ABS" crap before. Usually from someone with a non-ABS bike. That may be true in controlled/expected situations---HOWEVER--at 5a.m., with cold tires and an unexpected panic braking situation--give me ABS every freaking time. They are there to help keep the bike under control more than anything else.

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There are deer in wisconsin??

SE minnesota has plenty too. A couple of years ago, a deer ran in front of me just after sunset. I was only going about 30mph. All I was was a flash of white of the light on the side. My wife said - "A deer". I was probably only a couple of feet from it. Now I try to avoid that time of the day if possible.

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THIS has to be one of the big fears in riding... so now We only have to be skert (LOL) of horses/cows?
you were VERY fortunate.. great to hear that ya made it OK

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