Originally Posted by c00k1e
Here in the UK, many police forces went from using BMWs to the ST1100, it was that good. I got one new, over 10 years ago and still have it. A great bike.
When the ST1300 came out the police naturally bought it, then dumped it!!
They are now back on BMWs or the ST1100s (only forces without the budget to change are still on the 13)
The ST1100 can do 130+ as steady as a rock. The ST1300 looses stability at 90!!
Maybe not a consideration for you slow coaches over the water, but I won't be getting one. I have ridden 2 up at 130+ with all the luggage pilled high and she could have done more easy.
Over here the ST1100 is badged as the "Pan European", however I use the Pan for UK trips and the K for my Euro trips. Pity really as the Pan can keep up with the traffic on the German motorways, the K gets left behind a bit. But the comfort of the K will always win after 2 days of riding.
(Understand the original post concerned the ST1300. )
I have both the ST1100 and the LT. The ST is a very capable, reliable mount. Spouse and I have toured a bit with it in the east central states. Bit dated perhaps, but many owners don't care. No, it's no GT (past or present). But it's very nice. Very easy to hop on and ride.
It not an LT either. The ST(1100) is about 700 fully wet. About 100 HP. Carbs (the ST1300 is FI). Mine averages 45 - 48 MPG (taller windscreen). No heated grips, seat. No fan/engine heat issues either (unlike the ST1300 - I'm told). Hard bags detach. Can get a top box. No electric cruise (but could get an aftermarket one). No FD issues (but early ST's had alternator issues). The V-4 engine is very smooth. For a number of reasons (mentioned in this thread), I would not exchange it for the newer ST1300.
I ride the ST daily to put the everyday wear and tear miles on it rather than the LT. The ST doesn't care. It like the Energizer bunny - it just keeps on going and going. Tried to sell the ST but then figured out it was worth more (to me) to keep it than try to replace it (for now).
If I was to ride across America, the ST or LT would do it fine. More protection on the LT, sure. About same fuel mileage (the ST also holds more fuel). Comfort - the LT a little more for me, the LT a lot more for spouse - at least as they are currently set up. The spouse comfort was the deciding factor in getting a bigger bike (LT). More Honda dealers. My ST was $10,000 less in cost compared to the LT (also 10 years older!).
I really like the LT too. I say, if you like one bike more than another, then go for the one you like. I like them both and I'm fortunate to have both right now.