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Life on the Road

Just got home from our cross country (three weeks on the road). Had something happen that I have never seen before. Three days out while stopped at an Oklahoma rest area I observed that my entire rear drive and right side of the tire was covered in red oil. First thought it was a rear drive failure, a Sunday and no hope of dealership help till Tuesday. Upon further examination I discovered it was actually coming from the top vent valve of the drive. I cleaned it up as best I could and proceeded to the next exit to buy a degreaser and find a self-wash. Stopped about 50 miles up the road only to discover it was doing it again. This time I pulled the black cap from the vent and thoroughly cleaned the vent hole itself as far down as possible. After that I had no further problems. This is my second LT and I have changed the rear drive oil many times. I have never seen this happen before. Stopped by our local dealer today to ask about the incident and was told that with even an ounce or two over spec it can occur. And “Red Line” oil can actually continue to wick itself out of the drive once this type of event starts. I have always filled the rear drive up to the fill hole and have never seen this happen before. Learned to important lessons:
  • Use exact measurements as outline in fill spec (measure it)
  • If this does occur it is important to clean the vent tube to break the oil trail/path
Beyond this minor problem we had an outstanding trip. The price of gasoline (Needles, CA $4.89 premium) is definitely reducing the amount of people on the road. Restaurant operators, hotels and even gas stations all mentioned that they were seeing significant reduction in business. The upside to this was the open road was really open and less crowded. It was very apparent that hotel and restaurants operators were happy to get your business.


On the funny side: Saw a lot of riders headed for bike week in Laughlin, Nevada during the front end of the ride. For some reason the southern Arizona/California desert is experiencing a grasshopper explosion this year. We had them bouncing off the top of our helmets, boots and our windshield was a big bug splash. Saw quite a few Harley riders attempting to clean up due to their lack of riding gear and in some cases Helmets. Nothing like meeting a swarm of grasshoppers face to face at 70 miles an hour. It was quite a sight to see!

May we never find the end of the road!

Perry Ridgway

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post #2 of 17 Old May 10th, 2008, 12:53 am
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The price of gasoline (Needles, CA $4.89 premium)
I paid $4.49 for premium at the Needles, CA Shell station on 4/19! This was the highest price paid on my recent cross-country trip.

Cheapest gas was Knoxville, TN $3.44 premium on 4/17. Average price paid for entire trip was $3.63. Eight other cities were less than $3.50: Clinton, SC, Buckeye, AZ, El Paso, TX, Sayre, OK, Hurricane Mills, TN, Morrilton, AR, Charleston, SC, and Winnie, TX.

Averaged 69.1 mph & 41.9 mpg.

Wish I had the time to go on the road for 3 weeks!

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I paid $4.93 for premium in King City last weekend.

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....The price of gasoline (Needles, CA $4.89 premium) is definitely reducing the amount of people on the road. Restaurant operators, hotels and even gas stations all mentioned that they were seeing significant reduction in business....
Still recovering from $4.89 per gallon! Holy shit!
Many people have been telling me that traffic all over the fruited plains has been greatly reduced, and the remaining traffic, has slowed down. I have yet to experience this in greater Los Angeles. Still searching....

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Many people have been telling me that traffic all over the fruited plains has been greatly reduced, and the remaining traffic, has slowed down. I have yet to experience this in greater Los Angeles, yet. Still searching....
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Some people see the gas tank as half empty. Some see it as half full. All I care is that I know where the next tankful is coming from...
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You know what they say in SoCal: You can have my car when you pry my cold, dead fingers from it.
Taught that was our GT's?!....Or was that our "EVIL" firearms?!....

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Even at that price, it is hard to complain while getting 40+ miles per gallon. Plus the added benefit of endless miles of road and the freedom to enjoy it.

May we never find the end of the road!

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Still recovering from $4.89 per gallon! Holy shit!
Many people have been telling me that traffic all over the fruited plains has been greatly reduced, and the remaining traffic, has slowed down. I have yet to experience this in greater Los Angeles. Still searching....
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I was hedging against these gas prices with my environmentalist wacko mobile: 55 MPG!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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I have been full time traveling in my 10mpg rv for the last eight years. Alaska ,lower 48 states Mexico and Canada. With diesel prices $4.50 and up this has come to an end. I happily plan on continuing my travels on my K1200lt @ 50mpg exploring this great country of ours. A new adventure begins as i can go from coast to coast for about $250 in fuel costs.

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Frank, I'm getting mixed reports out of the RV crowd. Many owners are saying that they have parked 'um and will have to sell if fuel remains at these prices.

Some "experts" are saying that fuel prices are not high enough to have an effect, yet. I'm thinking that at 4-10 MPG and 80-100 gallon fuel tanks, they're being parked!

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Frank, I'm getting mixed reports out of the RV crowd. Many owners are saying that they have parked 'um and will have to sell if fuel remains at these prices.

Some "experts" are saying that fuel prices are not high enough to have an effect, yet. I'm thinking that at 4-10 MPG and 80-100 gallon fuel tanks, they're being parked!
A few of the RV manufactures who were "borderline" are now out of business.
The people I know who have them are taking very short trips (with in a 100 miles) of their homebase. Like SUV's there's no market to sell them to. The campgrounds I've been too have been way off in there occupancy. People are putting on a brave face but the fact is RV traffic is way down. To be honest I don't know how the average RV owner can now afford to own one now. Some may think this is great since they can pretty much have a campground all to themselves, but like some of the manufactures the owners of these campgrounds including county, state, and federal will no longer find in profitable to hang on and will close. So in the future there will be less choices to stay, less choices to buy, and less choices to find someone to work on one. I'm using mine for business as even at these diesel fuel prices it's still the least expensive way for me to travel, however I will no longer do any of the smaller rallies that are more then a few hours away from my homebase.
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Frank, I'm getting mixed reports out of the RV crowd. Many owners are saying that they have parked 'um and will have to sell if fuel remains at these prices.
Used RV prices will continue to drop, until folks figure out that they can't afford the gas for their 70-mile commute, the lease payments on their Escalades, or the escalating payments on their two-story gated community adjustable mortgages. Then they'll simply dump the house and car and live in the RV in the parking lot at work. If they're still lucky enough to have a job, that is.

I told you that Bush and his cronies would do severe, long-term damage to this country.

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I told you that Bush and his cronies would do severe, long-term damage to this country.
I see the broken record is still skipping. What does your political "told you so" have to do with "Life on the Road?"

People can afford to do anything if they make it a priority. You're lamenting the "average" person cannot afford a 38 foot diesel pusher? Guess what, the "average" person never could and truth be told they are at the top of all frivolous fuel consumption vehicles. Don't feel sad for the RV crowd. RVs already had the worst resale value of any vehicle type. It could very well be their time is over just like conestoga wagon and buggy whips. How many RVs do see in Europe where fuel has been pricey for decades? Why are people still buying little bottles of water at $8-12 a gallon and phoo-foo coffee at $4.50 a pop. It's a choice. Just like our pricey BMW bikes.

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Just got home from our cross country (three weeks on the road). Had something happen that I have never seen before. Three days out while stopped at an Oklahoma rest area I observed that my entire rear drive and right side of the tire was covered in red oil. First thought it was a rear drive failure, a Sunday and no hope of dealership help till Tuesday. Upon further examination I discovered it was actually coming from the top vent valve of the drive. I cleaned it up as best I could and proceeded to the next exit to buy a degreaser and find a self-wash. Stopped about 50 miles up the road only to discover it was doing it again. This time I pulled the black cap from the vent and thoroughly cleaned the vent hole itself as far down as possible. After that I had no further problems. This is my second LT and I have changed the rear drive oil many times. I have never seen this happen before. Stopped by our local dealer today to ask about the incident and was told that with even an ounce or two over spec it can occur. And “Red Line” oil can actually continue to wick itself out of the drive once this type of event starts. I have always filled the rear drive up to the fill hole and have never seen this happen before. Learned to important lessons:

The same thing happened to me on a two up trip to the N Ga mountains. Rear wheel was coated with red goo. We had come off the I-20 about 20 miles earlier and had stopped at a station in Washington GA for fuel. When I figured out what had happened, I felt a lot better - but I still watched it the rest of the trip. Never had it happen again.

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A few of the RV manufactures who were "borderline" are now out of business....
Come to think of it....our local "ghetto" dealer just went out of business! Now their 100 yard back wall is the local graffitti zone.
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Yes! I knew the EVIL "W" was responsible for ALL woes, both foreign and domestic, BUT I had not held him responsible for the graffitti in my hood. I now see the light!
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I see the broken record is still skipping. What does your political "told you so" have to do with "Life on the Road?"
Hey Bob, I heard recently that voting for McCain would be like electing "W" to a third term. Well, just to see Ken nut up tighter than a rusty old drum, I might just vote for a liberal Democrat like McCain!

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Don't fell sorry for the RV crowd. There will be some shake out and a new crop will appear. I owned a motorhome in the late 70s and early 80s. I was standing in the motorhome line buying there was no one else in the line... but I bought the brand new RV for a song when the dealers were throwing in the towel left and right. Almost lost the RV because the dealer took my cash from my loan and didn't have the title so I couldn't register it or get my money back.. A few heart to hearts with the dealer, MV dept, a lawyer and I eventually got the title and made I my payments. When I bought it, I planned on fuel prices doubling while I owned it. In my case it never materialized but, IMHO, you needed to make that calculation. If you didn't it was a poor decision to buy the RV.

I made numerous trips around the country with my family and then sold it 5 years later 30 % more than I paid for it originally.

So there are some winners and losers in every game but the game will be played. Anyone that can afford a $500,000 RV or any RV that has a purchase price near a stick home can't be worried about $5.00 a gallon fuel. If they are they, should not have made that investment. JM2CW

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I]Averaged 69.1 mph & 41.9 mpg[/color][/font].

Wish I had the time to go on the road for 3 weeks!
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