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MotoGirl Got Rear-ended by a Harley Guy...

...but he didn't go down. (settle down fellas)

Gail was on her way to work yesterday, followed (too) closely by a kid on a motorcycle. Typical Orlando traffic, there's a light change, cars start stacking up and Gail realizes the guy behind isn't giving himself enough room. She yanks it to the left, but the Hardly Abletostopidson still glances off the right rear corner, finally geting it stopped somewhere up around her passenger side door. Gail gets out to check on the guy and his legs are shaking so bad he can barely hold the bike up. If she hadn't been aware of his position, this would have turned out much worse for him, and he knew it.

Hopefully this guy learns a) don't tailgate, b) to always give himself an out, and c) not to ride in the middle of the damn lane.

Bent the exhaust system and did a little damage to the bumper and quarter panel on her car. He had a bent highway peg, possibly bent ape hangers, but the rest of his damage would probably wash out.




Looking at the size of that crease in the quarter panel, I can't believe he didn't dump it.

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We are taught overhere, to ride in the centre of a lane (command your lane)?

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We are taught overhere, to ride in the centre of a lane (command your lane)?

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Thats what I was taught, and it works! Always ride in a way that leaves lots of room around you. But a kid on a Harley might not spend a lot of time thinking about safe riding practices. Just look at what most of them wear...

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I was taught the slickest part of a lane approaching a stoplight is the middle, and that anything in the tire tracks will either be knocked out of the way, or flat by the time you get there.

Another story...
Gail and I were coming through Nashville a few years ago; it's 5 in the afternoon. Traffic is heavy (but moving pretty good) and there is a lost shovel laying length wise in the left lane. I saw it as it came out from under the truck I was following, and instantly validated what I was taught. It was in the middle of the lane, I was in the right hand tire track.

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I was taught the slickest part of a lane approaching a stoplight is the middle, and that anything in the tire tracks will either be knocked out of the way, or flat by the time you get there.

Another story...
Gail and I were coming through Nashville a few years ago; it's 5 in the afternoon. Traffic is heavy (but moving pretty good) and there is a lost shovel laying length wise in the left lane. I saw it as it came out from under the truck I was following, and instantly validated what I was taught. It was in the middle of the lane, I was in the right hand tire track.
I was also taught not to ride in the center as it's the slickest part of the lane. This can be especially important in areas like Southern CA, where it doesn't rain for 9 months and the oil just builds. You don't want to get caught in the first good rain of the winter.

Glad Gail wasn't hurt, and that she was aware enough of the biker to make up for much of his failings. We all make mistakes, and when someone helps you not pay for them (at least not in full), I know I appreciate it.

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Dumb a$$, did you guys to a police report??????? And if you did, did the guy get a ticket?????

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I'll let Gail answer that one...

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Dumb a$$, did you guys to a police report??????? And if you did, did the guy get a ticket?????
No John I did not. When I pulled over and got out of my truck, and saw this boy (maybe 18), I saw both his legs shaking and my only concern was that he was O.K. Traffic in Orlando can be a bitch, especially around the mall where I work. I felt this kid had enough drama for one day. I hear another lecture coming!

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Just look at what most of them wear...
I was surprised to find he was wearing gloves, jacket and a full faced helmet.
Must have been his dad's bike. He will have some splainin' to do.

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No John I did not. When I pulled over and got out of my truck, and saw this boy (maybe 18), I saw both his legs shaking and my only concern was that he was O.K. Traffic in Orlando can be a bitch, especially around the mall where I work. I felt this kid had enough drama for one day. I hear another lecture coming!
Lessons really can be learned without lining the state's coffers. You did him a favor Gail, and I'm sure he appreciates it. I think it shows you're a better person, but I'm not a statist.

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You're my new hero,Moto Girl.I'm sure that kid will remember the lesson he learned in a positive way because of your actions.

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Re: MotoGirl Got Rear-ended by a Harley Guy...

I was always told to ride a 1/3 off the double yellow line. I was told this for two reasons.

First is you are visible to the car in front in the side view and rear view mirror.

And second you are then in the best place as far as road debris and exhaust contaminates.

Off course at 51 I learned to drive in a different era as a lot of the folks here. We did yield, we did move over for merging traffic, we could leave safe following distance without some idiot in the next lane thinking that gap was for him to use, we looked ahead not at the guys bumper in front of us, truckers were our friends.

I think you did the kid a great kindness that if he continues to ride will impact him more than any other, short of going down completely. If you are correct and he snook Dad's bike out, he will suffer dearly there also.

I think you made an impact on a young rider that will make him a great older driver.

I do hope you at least exchanged information though to satisfy your insurance. I would think Dad will pay your bill out of pocket, and out of his son's hide.

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I ride where it works. Sometimes it's right next to the line for visibility, other times it's all the way over to the edge of the road, sometimes it's in the middle. A fluid situation depending on circumstances.

Gail, you're a doll. You should have just kicked his ass. If he's anythang like my kid's, once he shook off the shock and had a few beers, he'll be bragging to his friends how he got over on this beyotch.



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We are taught over here, to ride in the centre of a lane (command your lane)?

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First off glad to see the Kid got away with only an costly lesson and nothing worse. Never want to see anyone get hurt no matter what they ride or wear.

I was taught to ride in the left of the lane then the right then the middle as last resort. In UK guess it would be the same because the steering wheel is on the wrong side

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Cagers are used to looking for people/drivers in the left lane, more specifically their heads/faces and are more likely to see yours.

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Thanks guys I felt it was the right thing to do. Dave would of been happier if I would gotten his info, but the important thing is he didn't get hurt. No matter what he says to his buddies, he knows the truth.

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Gail,
I don't know you, but short of getting his info, you show you have a heart and you must be a mighty fine young lady. 3 cheers for you..

As for the opinions as to where to ride in a lane, I suggest we all take the safety course and then make the decision of where to ride ourselves. But don't tell others where they should ride. ALL situations are different.

I'm still in favor of a bike dealer giving each buyer at least a phone # for the course or some info about it. I didn't learn about the course until after I bought my first bike. I just happened to ask some people the right questions one day just visiting.

I know for me , taking the course was the best money I've spent in a good many years. It even made a better car/van driver out of me. Keeping one's COOL, is sure important. Gail should be a good example for all of us.


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No John I did not. When I pulled over and got out of my truck, and saw this boy (maybe 18), I saw both his legs shaking and my only concern was that he was O.K. Traffic in Orlando can be a bitch, especially around the mall where I work. I felt this kid had enough drama for one day. I hear another lecture coming!
Not a lecture, maybe a little one. I guess I deal with shit head all day and for some reason I have worked a crash, one or two in the last 20 years. I have worked them were, I was told, not a problem "we" worked it between ourselves, only to be called and the stories had changed.

I am one that will "always" get a police report. Just me and I have seen people's story change, and then you have to defend "why" you did not call police, are you hiding something??????????? etc................

Hopefully this did learn his lesson, but he could also learn his lesson with a police report and a ticket for him to remember..............

What I have done in the passed as a LEO working a wreck, but did not want to write a ticket is give the the two vehicles involved a driver exchange and tell the driver at fault that he needs to fix the other vehicle, and if he does not, I will then do a police report and a must issue a ticket. Never hear another thing.

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Gail,

Good deal. Hopefully, he not only learned his riding lesson, but hopefully he also will learn a lesson on being a class act and maybe someday he will "pay it forward" and be nice to some one else who makes a mistake.

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No John I did not. When I pulled over and got out of my truck, and saw this boy (maybe 18), I saw both his legs shaking and my only concern was that he was O.K. Traffic in Orlando can be a bitch, especially around the mall where I work. I felt this kid had enough drama for one day. I hear another lecture coming!
NEVER, NEVER leave the scene of an accident WITHOUT a police report being filed!

You are not doing anyone any favors by "letting" him go.

He will probably not learn his lesson and he will continue to be a nuisance to society.

Glad he was ok and you were ok.

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Sorry to hear about the mishap, but glad everyone came out pretty much unscathed, expect for the vehicles, I guess. I appreciate the good will towards the guy, but I would have gotten a police report, if for no other reason than to document who did what and who was at fault. Yes, it a PITA and makes his life more painful, but it also protects you from him coming back later saying you backed into him and need to pay for all of his bike damage, and injuries, and mental anguish from almost being flattened by this crazed chick in a cage who hates bikers. This kind of crap happens all too frequently and you end up going round and round with it if it does.

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I got that same lecture from my Dave.

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It's all water over the damn at this point. It's not what I would've done, but so what. If we're going to start questioning Gail's decisions at this point . . .
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I got that same lecture from my Dave.
Damn, next thing you know you'll tell me we both like riding bikes and the same kind of beer.

Oh crap...

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NEVER, NEVER leave the scene of an accident WITHOUT a police report being filed!....
In many jurisdictions, ocifers DO NOT take reports for non-injury T/C's.

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