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post #1 of 21 Old Mar 14th, 2008, 7:38 pm Thread Starter
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07 RT to 08 LT

Thinking about moving up to an LT from my RT. I've done some home work on the LT's, know it's a great touring machine based on what I've read...I'm thinking about doing more two up riding and longer distances. Just curious, as I'm certain that many of you have made similar transitions. Would appreciate your comments regarding handling, comfort and anything else you can think of e.g. maintenance costs. Look forward to your comments.
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Re: 07 RT to 08 LT

I've only owned the LT... but as a 2up machine, I luv my LT...

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BTDT, and love my LT. I love the radio, larger bags, intergated GPS with the CB. For me the weight is not problem, but I must tell myself I am a different kind of rider. I know that you get all the above on a RT, but I know that you can not get the same in the weather protection. I enjoy the winglets under the mirrors, which help direct the wind on or off of you. They are both great bikes and for 2 up a plus. My wife does not ride as must, since the kids, and I still enjoy the LT by myself.

I did not see any cost difference in owning a LT or RT. I get my serviced by the dealer.

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As Concise as possibly;

Nothing will prepare you for the LT. It is without a doubt a compelling MC.

Heavy, complicated and sophisticated, a 747 on 2 wheels initially then after
you get into it was wonderfully large sportbike that belies its weight.

The power will BLOW YOUR RT out of the water. I have been an owner of all manner of Harleys and Goldwing touring bikes and the LT is the King of Fast Touring in Comfort.
My initial ownership ride on my own 05 LT was a 746 mile jaunt thru early March snow,rain,cold,windy, damp and black of night back up to the east PNW.

I changed to an Adventure touring bike since I now live on a long gravel driveway and want to also explore offroad sites as I am an avid MC camper and feel the Adventure touring bike is more my core inner biker.

I had an RT and while it is fine, It is a Chevy to the LT as a fine Mercedes sedan for high speed traveling....

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As Concise as possibly;

Nothing will prepare you for the LT. It is without a doubt a compelling MC.

Heavy, complicated and sophisticated, a 747 on 2 wheels initially then after
you get into it was wonderfully large sportbike that belies its weight.

The power will BLOW YOUR RT out of the water. I have been an owner of all manner of Harleys and Goldwing touring bikes and the LT is the King of Fast Touring in Comfort.
My initial ownership ride on my own 05 LT was a 746 mile jaunt thru early March snow,rain,cold,windy, damp and black of night back up to the east PNW.

I changed to an Adventure touring bike since I now live on a long gravel driveway and want to also explore offroad sites as I am an avid MC camper and feel the Adventure touring bike is more my core inner biker.

I had an RT and while it is fine, It is a Chevy to the LT as a fine Mercedes sedan for high speed traveling....
"The power will BLOW YOUR RT out of the water. I have been an owner of all manner of Harleys and Goldwing touring bikes and the LT is the King of Fast Touring in Comfort."

Excuse me - but the LT won't hold a match to the power of the GL 1800!
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Nothing will prepare you for the LT. It is without a doubt a compelling MC.
Interesting observation, "The power will BLOW YOUR RT out of the water." You weren't referring to the R1200RT, were you?
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I have owned both Goldwings and RT's.

I have ridden the 1200 RT and was not impressed as the power feels very "Soft" compared to the inline 4. Even compared to the V-Strom it feels not as quick or powerful or even handle as well. It was pretty but did not float my boat when I was in the market last year to buy. I took a new 1200RT out for a demo run.

I have owned previous Goldwings and swapped my LT for an 1800 ride a few times with my buddy who wanted to test ride an LT. I stand by my observation that the total package is not nearly as complete as the LT or handle nearly as well. Now Japanese reliability is a different story.
I wish the BMW marque had the stats the GW has. I never had one problem or even a warranty gripe on my Goldwings. * The shaft drive on my 05 Yamaha FJR1300 required attention for a leak but the total bill on installing all new seals + labor was small. About what you might spend on a 6K RT minor service.

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Having owned both the RT and LT I can not agree with your assessment of the LT over the RT. Maybe true for the Harley and Goldwing, but the RT is probably the best bike in its class.

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OKU,
Thats OK, thats why they are called opinions....

I moved from OC to Washington state for quality of life.
you might not agree with that either !!

This country is about choices..

I've actually never owned a bike I did not like....

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I ride with a friend who has a 06' GW 1800 and yes they have tons of get up and go off the line. When we are rolling and the LT is above 3K, like getting on the freeway in first gear, thats a different story. I have never had a problem keeping up with him but he has with me. If you look at the MCN stats for the 05' LT and the 05' GW you can see what i am saying. The GW is faster to 60 but from 60 to 100 the LT is faster. Two up now that is a different story, but what do you expect from a bike with a car motor!.

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Re: 07 RT to 08 LT

I appreciate all of the responses, they were very helpful. I hope to pick up my new LT this week. I'm sure I'll have more questions after I get some miles under my belt...
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You won't be disappointed with the LT performance and handling !!

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Re: 07 RT to 08 LT

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As Concise as possibly;

Nothing will prepare you for the LT. It is without a doubt a compelling MC.

Heavy, complicated and sophisticated, a 747 on 2 wheels initially then after
you get into it was wonderfully large sportbike that belies its weight.

The power will BLOW YOUR RT out of the water.
Apparently, you have not ridden an R1200RT. The power to weight ratio is in the RT's favor...

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The rt is really a fun bike to ride, but for 2 up touring you can't beat the LT.
LT is smooooth (not enough Os in smooooth).
LT means more comfort for the SO.
The L in LT is for Luxury after all.

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I've had my 06 LT for 1.5 years and it is a great handling bike. It does take time to get used to the weight while riding SLOWLY two up. THe cost of dealer service is very HIGH. You can do some work yourself but if not mechanically inclined be prepared for a kick in the wallet every time you take it in.

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I went from a 00 r1100rt to a 99 k1200lt, I think what you have to consider is what the bikes were designed for as both do their job better than the other choices out there (my opinion). The LT is heavier and you do feel the weight initially, but as others have pointed out, the handling and comfort make that disappear rather quickly. What your going to notice first is the lack of low end power that your now getting with you RT. These big machines dont come alive unitl the RPM's are north of 3.5k, once there the bike is in its element. It rides on rails in the twisities, and planted and smooth on the straights. Obviously I am very happy with my choice. Maintenance wise the nimble handling seems to come at the cost of more frequent tire changes. I also go through rear brake pads pretty quick, but Im a motor officer and ride a bit differently than most others.

FWIW my co worker has a GL1800 and we swapped bikes for our 30 mile ride home. As others have said the GL1800 is a stump puller off the line, but after our ride, he offered me $2, 000 and his bike for the LT.
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**Sounds like my buddy on his GL1800 !!! His wife won't let him as he is still buried in payments and does not know what to wear without his oldwing propaganda, all friends are in the OLDwing club...

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Why not have an LT and an RT?

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Why not have an LT and an RT?
I presently do have an 06 LT and an 07 RT.
I have to agree with the one's above that stated that the LT will blow the RT away.
It flat will, but I still prefer the RT.
Lighter, more nimble, and I don't race every day.

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i have both a 06 Lt and a 06 Rt and the LT cant keep up with the RT. Same horsepower and 300 lbs less is too much for the big LT too handle.

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I haven't ridden the LT, only sat on them, but the passenger accomidation looked more comfortable and overall it's a larger machine, great for long distances, but less sporty and involving it seems.

Suprisingly, the RT has a larger total rider and luggage weight capacity and a larger fuel tank. The LT are known to get slightly better mileage and pull a little smoother off the bottom end (long stroke vs. short stroke motors).

Both are unique machines. One is a Luxury Tourer, the other just a R touring bike.

Ultimately, my wife thought the LT wasn't eouhg of a motorcycle, as stepped a little to close to being a 2 wheel car. Now sportbike guys including myself at one time would say the same thing about the RT.

Another way to put it... the LT is compared most closely to the Goldwing. The RT to the ST1300.

Another comparison... the LT needs a reverse gear. The RT doesn't. Although when loaded to the max with camping gear pushing almost 1100lbs is hardly lightweight, but better than 1300lbs.

Some days I would like an LT, it probably matches my riding habits better, but I still like the R1200 motor.

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