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negotiating a final deal on new LT ---Ideas?

Very close(!) to purchasing a new LT, how much of a price break off the SRP is considered a good deal?
Should I ask for some goodies "thrown in" to sweeten the deal? They agreed to 10% off almost any accessory when I agree to buy the bike..

First time buyer of a new bike off the dealer floor here, I don't want to appear like I am asking for too much, yet, I want to get a "GOOD" deal too!

What is the first thing I should do to "improve" my new 2008?

That empty GPS holder is ugly- but, geeze, $1300.00 is alot of money to spend, just to put "something there"!

This is my first touring bike... I will be riding with my wife...

Thanks in advance for the suggestions and ideas!!

Only 8 degrees in Michigan this morning!!!!!!!!
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First off welcome to the group, lot's of good info here. Now for your question of a good deal or not, this depends on what you are getting on the bike right now ei. comm. system etc. also ask if the dealer ( I assume it's BMW of Grand Rapids) can cut you a deal on an extended warranty and anything else you might want.

Now for things to improve your LT that the dealer can't provide and there are many but most are personal preference, but the one I would add right away is an HID low beam. There is still a group buy going on in the "lighting forum" $75 delivered. As for anything else, you will figure that out as you go. My add-on's look like this.
  1. HID low beam
  2. headlight modulator
  3. top rack tail light flasher ( TailBlaser)
  4. wings of gold
  5. Bakup backrest
  6. aux. lights under tipover wings
I'm sure others will chime in with more.

By the why are you guys having a heat wave or what ? 8 degrees not bad .... it was -10 when I got up this morning.
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I never buy new.
I hate the sale people. I hate the payment. I hate being the first person to to drop a new bike.

I would ask for everything and see what they counter offer with.

Just remember whatever you pay for your new bike, in a couple of years someone like me will be paying half of that amount.

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First, whatever deal you get I am sure is a good one. Second the goodies I like are the intercom system, that way you can talk with the passenger, CB radio, talk with other bikes and GPS. You probably can get a GPS on the internet for1/2 price. Have fun on the 08. If I could afford the payment I have a new LT also.

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thanks taking the time to reply with your comments and suggestions.
Tomorrow I will be calling to confirm the offer they made to me. They gave me an out-the-door price which is lower than the SRP, and also includes delivery. My (closest) dealer is over 2 hours away, so delivery is a great convenience for me! The next couple months I will surely be drooling over the bike in my garage! Thinking about all that I am getting, maybe I should just ask for a bike cover- assuming that they have one in stock.
Spent a lot of time on this site checkin out the previous posts- sooooooooo much to read and learn- I have so many questions- to numerous to list!
God i hate being the newbie!
thanks again guys for welcoming me and the ideas presented- I am considering and weighing each one.

Hope to one day be a contributing member!

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I hope I'm not too late, but...
One of the easiest and best things to get thrown into the deal is SERVICE! The first service is at 600 miles. Get that thrown in for sure. The next is at 6K. If they won't include the whole enchilada, at least make them pay for the labor portion ... you cover the parts. Heck, I'd even try for the 12K service, what the heck? You might also consider trying to lengthen the warranty period. That never hurts.

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not too late! lol Since I live so far away we're doing this deal over the phone, which is a disadvantage somewhat... Then, again maybe not- will def. try to get a deal on the service- great idea! thanks!

got up extra early to read more about this bike! but gotta get ready for work now- if any of you retired folks remember what thats like! lol

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Assuming that the dealership you're working with is BMWMCGR, you're getting a great dealership with the deal. As long as both parties are satisfied with the outcome, you'll have a super relationship. Those guys are great with customer support. They've gone to bat for me with BMWNA on a couple of the 3 bikes I've bought from them. Don't discount the fact that they will deliver the bike to you. That alone is worth a couple hundred bucks and saves you from a major PITA at this time of the year. Plus they'll do it with a smile. If you think it's a good deal then it's a good deal.

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Now a proud owner of a blue LT

Closed the deal today! Very satisfied.
Thanks to everyone for who guided me. I didn't get much more than a free bike cover and BMW shirt, but I do feel like I got a good deal overall from the dealer.
I forgot to mention that the salesman even came in and opened up the dealership for my wife and I after hours on Saturday- since we couldn'tmake it during normal business hours!

Thanks to Matt too for his testimonial about these guys... cements my feelings even more.

Hope to meet some of you Michigan riders from this site this season, or heck who knows what state I might see this year!

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Thanks to Matt too for his testimonial about these guys... cements my feelings even more.
FWIW, that's the dealership where my GT came from. He and my dealer made a bike trade. My dealer had good things to say about that owner.

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Hope to meet some of you Michigan riders from this site this season, or heck who knows what state I might see this year!
Now that's what we like to hear. I was out on the westcoast with my GT last year ... and I'm going back at the beginning of May just to chat with good friends over a weekend. When people ask me if I'll be riding "all the way there", I just grin and say, "If you see my GT on a trailer, it's either stolen or broken!".

Buckle up! You're in for the ride of your life! Even though I now ride a GT, there's just something special about the BMW K1200LT. Prepare yourself to answer a lot of questions at gas stops and what-not. Amonst a sea of Harleys, Harley wannabees, and Gold Wings ... the LT just stands out like no other. And for all the right reasons.
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having owned (and still own!) a couple Triumphs, a 1999 Adventurer 900, and a '04 Black Bonne, I am used to being approached! lol Mostly with, "wow- i used to have a Triumph back in the day....yada yada". I love it!
Just wish it wasn't mid Feb. in MICHIGAN here! I can't wait to try my heated grips and seat! ...AND all the other gadgets and options!
Havent bought new in a long time and hope I have the patience and discipline for the "break-in" period.

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I got the 600 mile service,cylinder head guards, and $400 off a service contract that takes me to 6 years unlimited miles. They want to sell the bike. They have half of what they are asking for the service contract in it. Everything above that is profit. Give them $100 or $150 above half. They have to make SOME money. Regardless of the nit picking you'll love the new bike. I love my new RT, go for it.
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Greetings and welcome to our little web site.

The most important part of the deal is the part after the sale. I always patronize the dealer(s) that stands behind the sale with customer service excellence. The dealer that demonstrates that they want your business--as opposed to not giving a shit (like most dealers).

Of course, such attention to detail often costs more but is well worth it.

I would add additional lighting as my first modification.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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...."If you see my GT on a trailer, it's either stolen or broken!". ....
Joe, if some low life would dare steal YOUR GT, I'll make sure he gets what's a comin' too him!

Hope to catch you here on the (extreme) Left coast in May.

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Very close(!) to purchasing a new LT, how much of a price break off the SRP is considered a good deal?
Should I ask for some goodies "thrown in" to sweeten the deal? They agreed to 10% off almost any accessory when I agree to buy the bike..!

planning on keeping it a 100-200k miles? or longer than 3yrs/36k miles (whichever comes first)?

then have them throw in say a 5 yr extended service policy, service policies have always been VERY high profit for the dealer and is far easier to negotiate a sale with.

make sure it is low or no deductible and it covers the ABS as well as oils leaks trans and final drive replacements, if it covers exhaust that is a plus as well as it covering your radio components

one name is interstate for an extended

154k miles on my 2002

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The BMW Navigator is not your only option for the "ugly" GPS Holder. I use a 2730 on mine... all you need is the bracket you can get from cyclegadgets. The four buttons on the left don't work with the 2730, but I can live with that. The lower price and the built-in XM radio more than make up for it.

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Very close(!) to purchasing a new LT, how much of a price break off the SRP is considered a good deal?
Should I ask for some goodies "thrown in" to sweeten the deal? They agreed to 10% off almost any accessory when I agree to buy the bike..

First time buyer of a new bike off the dealer floor here, I don't want to appear like I am asking for too much, yet, I want to get a "GOOD" deal too!

What is the first thing I should do to "improve" my new 2008?

That empty GPS holder is ugly- but, geeze, $1300.00 is alot of money to spend, just to put "something there"!

This is my first touring bike... I will be riding with my wife...

Thanks in advance for the suggestions and ideas!!

Only 8 degrees in Michigan this morning!!!!!!!!
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when I said "ugly GPS holder", the point I was trying to make was that I felt it was very presumptious for BMW to place a mounting bracket for just "their unit" with all the wire connectors exposed on a new motorcycle. The new owner must immediately purchase the unit at time of sale- or put-up with the constant questions from friends and admirers asking "what goes there????" and "well, where is it???
I do, now understand that a substitute unit is readily available on ebay and other places for less money.
If I do get a different unit altogether, as suggested- through cyclegagets, does it ultilize the same location and wiring? god! so much I don't understand yet!

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Re: negotiating a final deal on new LT ---Ideas?

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having owned (and still own!) a couple Triumphs, a 1999 Adventurer 900, and a '04 Black Bonne, I am used to being approached! lol Mostly with, "wow- i used to have a Triumph back in the day....yada yada". I love it!
Just wish it wasn't mid Feb. in MICHIGAN here! I can't wait to try my heated grips and seat! ...AND all the other gadgets and options!
Havent bought new in a long time and hope I have the patience and discipline for the "break-in" period.
Where'd you get your Triumphs from?

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Where'd you get your Triumphs from?
Actually I bought both bikes on ebay! The 900 came from Indiana and the Bonnie was almost local, in a small town just north of me... I got lucky!
Both are serviced by the harley/triumph dealer in Traverse City, MI

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