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post #1 of 45 Old Jan 29th, 2008, 10:32 pm Thread Starter
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How have you reacted to dumb drivers?

I'm sure I'm not alone in my frustration at drivers who left their brains/compassion behind. Also obviously, anyone without seatbelts/airbags/steel walls need to be circumspect before trying to exact any revenge on these people. But we also often leave our brains behind. So just wondering, what are some of the less wise things you've done to confront those who irritate you?

People who turn right on a young red after a phantom stop bug me. They assume that the "car" with the young green will need some time to accelerate through the intersection and can therefore bust out in front. It's hard (and sometimes impossible) to resist leaning on the horn and skimming past their door panel. Dumb, I know.

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.... unfortunately, proving I was more stupid... usually.

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I'm sure I'm not alone in my frustration at drivers who left their brains/compassion behind. Also obviously, anyone without seatbelts/airbags/steel walls need to be circumspect before trying to exact any revenge on these people. But we also often leave our brains behind. So just wondering, what are some of the less wise things you've done to confront those who irritate you?

People who turn right on a young red after a phantom stop bug me. They assume that the "car" with the young green will need some time to accelerate through the intersection and can therefore bust out in front. It's hard (and sometimes impossible) to resist leaning on the horn and skimming past their door panel. Dumb, I know.
I do my very best to NOT ALLOW these guys to push my one big button. You never know how far these nuts will take it. You're think you're just giving dumbass a little taste of his own medicine and next thing you know your explaining to dudes in dark suites why you recreated the OK Corral in the middle of the downtown school zone!

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+1 to Jays response. I try to have the attitude that life is to short so why compound errors.

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Can't fix STUPID !

Most of the time I try to anticipate what will happen and leave a margin of room around me. It happens just about every ride, every day around here. Occasionally I'll lay on the horn (if I can find it and I'm just in the mood) to maybe wake them up, but I know that means that they are in control. Most of the time i just ignore it and try to stay calm.....

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45+ years ago I would probably have followed the maxim "Do unto others...", but today I generally let them go because I know I'm riding a powerful machine and when/if I feel like it I can leave them standing anyway. A bike is far too exposed to take risks, although I did once see a biker remove the door mirror off a car that tried to stop him passing - with his foot!

I do remember as a child my mother arriving home very late one evening, much to my father's worry because she was out in a brand new car. Her reason - "someone cut me up and I had to chase them for almost 30 miles before I could get my own back"!!!!

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Since you asked, and I don't really get too upset that often, I practically never use my horn or gesture at other drivers, but some things just get me going. Here are 2 of the craziest.

Short versions -

Some kids threw a beer can out the window at me and my buddy. I pulled along side and kicked the passenger side mirror off the car and a huge chase ensued - and that's all I'm saying about that one. 19 at the time.

More recently - 7 years ago, a pet peeve of mine is dump trucks traveling untarped with chunks flying out. Pulled around one motioning about crap flying out the back. The driver apparently got upset and pulled up too close behind me. I slowed, and he inched even closer. I slowed further, having already decided I was pressing charges if his vehicle touched mine. Keep in mind, I'm on a bike. Cavalcade at the time. With only a foot or so separating us, and a huge grill filling my mirror, I tapped the rear brake while maintaining speed. I think he finally realized he was dealing with a certifiable and backed off, and I waved and went on to work.

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.... unfortunately, proving I was more stupid... usually.
Man I know that one all too well.

Somehow, (believe me when I say I must have had help) I survived my youth
and grew up into a wiser and not very much more mature individual,
I eventually realized (like Dano said) "you can't fix stupid"
and nothing I say or do is going to change that/them.

When I was still a Harley rider (20 years ago) I lived by:
"If you want to see @sshole, ..........I'll show you @sshole!!!
And I was good at it.

I've thrown my fists through open windows, kicked mirrors of cars, broken more than a few antenna's and even punched the glass out of a car mirror once, I rode away somewhat satisfied and bleeding.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me now but I was a different person back then.

There was an incident that still makes me smile whenever I think about it.

Sunday morning 11am going up US 19 toward a Toy run an hour north of here,
three lanes of moderate traffic and two turn lanes.
I'm watching a small truck weaving through traffic behind me cutting people of and being rude to every one around him, eventually he passes me, cuts me off only to end up next to me at the next stoplight.

I call out to him: HEY... are you always an @sshole or just when you drive?
The light goes green and traffic starts to move as he yells his response
F.... you, I'll blow you away.....
He's glaring at me so intensely that he doesn't notice vehicles in front of him have stopped
as he smashes into the rear of them.
I'm laughing out loud as I ride away.

But...wait... here he comes, driving like a maniac weaving in and out and gaining on me,
oh sh*t, he's been humiliated and maybe he does have a gun.

I do a quick evasive maneuver, cut in front of a van and duck into the turn lane
as he passes the same van, he's gone.....

He wasn't after me, he's just doing a hit and run.....
The chase is on ..now.... I get his tag number and return to the accident scene with it.

It's still funny, but looking back I wonder: which one of us was the biggest @sshole?


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In this day and age when life has little to no meaning to some of these idiots, just get out of the way and don't antagonize them.

I have a carry permit so contrary to what non gun owners think I go out of my way to get away from a situation. Just not worth it to me.

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When I was still a Harley rider (20 years ago) I lived by:
"If you want to see @sshole, ..........I'll show you @sshole!!!
And I was good at it.

I've thrown my fists through open windows, kicked mirrors of cars, broken more than a few antenna's and even punched the glass out of a car mirror once, I rode away somewhat satisfied and bleeding.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me now but I was a different person back then.
Yup, sounds like me. I learned that you never tried to take revenge while still moving - cage will always win, and being in the car gives people that sense of power and invincibility. However, when stopped in traffic, pulling up next to them and stating my case would usually give them time to think about the error in their driving techniques, and usually resulted in an apology from the driver. The one time it didn't and the driver threatened to "take me out as soon as we start moving", he never got the chance. (Open window and lack of seatbelt = instant extraction from vehicle by angry tattooed man.)

The anger management courses (court-ordered) I took really have helped since then.......

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As a newbie to bikes I'm about finished reading David Hough's Proficient Motorcycling where he discusses this very topic. Walk away to enjoy another day is his motto and one that I now embrace.

Twenty years ago when I mistakenly took the big red "S" on my chest seriously, I would have approached the situation differently. Back then I felt it was my duty to educate these benighted souls. As Lee said above, given today's day & age you never know what or who you'll be dealing with. Hopefully in my mid-forties I've learned something...

Now if I can only get my little wife to settle down when she goes out in her cage. I've never seen anyone so diminutive possess no fear about getting up in people's faces! From clueless soccer moms on cell phones to big bodybuilder types, she'll approach them all.

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I've only been riding 2 1/2 years so I haven't had near the number of incidents that most of you have. A few weeks ago a moron on a cell phone changed lanes right into me on a U.S. highway. I evaded the near-hit. As luck would have it we stopped side by side at the next traffic light. I looked over at him, he looked back at me, I motioned that he should be paying better attention, he gave me the finger. We both drove off.

I've used the horn a few times to tell idiots that they are idiots. Happened 2 weeks ago to someone I work with. I asked her about it; she said she never saw me AND never heard my horn. I need to install that Steibel sitting in the basement.

I've been advised (Meese, I think) to let it go and live to ride another day. Good advice...

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I find that I don't get the road rage as bad on the bike. I half expect the unexpected and when it happens i'm never disappointed in the bone-head moves I get to witness. It's a video game, you can't touch me and i can't touch you!
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Bulletproof? I dunno, you may. But stupidity proof? I don't think so.
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Get out of the way . . .

Hope this does not get too heavy . . .

As a daily rider in and around highway traffic on occasion I get cut off . . . however I prepare myself ahead of time mentally for these situations. Simply put when this occurs anger is my second emotion / thought . . . executing skills / maneuvers both conscious and unconscious is my first priority (survival). Immediately after executing the maneuver I am rewarding myself for what I was able to survive / avoid - I mean I go out of my way to congratulate myself for recognizing what was happening and being in the zone and having the ability to be prepared to accept the unknown!! I fight / try to suppress my anger and replace it with acknowledgement that I demonstrated an avoidance skill. Now when these situations arise anger does not linger after the incident only my reward that I performed well. Thus when I get to work and people ask how was the ride I am usually talking about my skills and not about other peoples lack of it!!

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Still young enough (or too full of spit and vinegar) to seriously struggle with this.

I tend to be the "Stop and lecture them" type. I attempt to be polite...but at 6'4" and 210lbs I am quite intimidating in boots, gear, and helmet. I use the "do you want to kill my wife's husband today and have me not ever come back home to her". I tell them the cell phone...etc...probably isn't worth a lifetime of guilt over killing someone. This approach catches them off guard and usually they understand my irritation with them and apologize. But I'll bet it lasts all of 10 minutes before they go back to as they were.

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I always wanted to put a window washer pump and spray on the back of the bike around the license plate area. Fill the tank with Dot 3.
Really "James Bond" there.

25 years ago it was reach in the pocket and toss up some marbles.

Now my "better living through chemistry" pills make that seem ridiculous.

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My Current Pet Peeve: Drivers Who Attack the Rider's Space

It is hard not to respond to the stupid things I see every day, but I do my best. Difinazzo's idea about congratulating oneself for reacting properly is a good one.

My current pet peeve is drivers who seem like they are going to attack my space. They approach at high speed from the right or left, when I have a green light or the right-of-way at an intersection, or when I am on the main road in a parking lot. Their actions force me to brake to avoid a potential collision, because I cannot depend on what they will do next. The drivers brake at the last minute, often after crossing waaaaay past their limit line. Sometimes, after seeing that they have forced me to slow down to the point where I have created a safe margin, they actually take the turn and cut me off, forcing me to brake again, which really pisses me off.

This behavior differs from the sudden-turn-and-cut-you-off trick, because the drivers intend to stop. Unfortunately, there is no way for me to know that they intend to stop. The number of drivers who do this has been growing a lot over the last year or so.

The bottom line is that I am forced to play chicken, and I don't like it.
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I've been advised (Meese, I think) to let it go and live to ride another day. Good advice...
Live and let live. What a novel concept. Imagine if we all lived that way.

I've had my share of smacked mirrors, kicked doors, and roadside screaming matches. All it does is escalate the situation, my blood pressure, and the chance for retaliation from someone who may well be crazier than you. I can get pissed too, but it never seems to change anything and I'll likely never even see these folks again so why bother?

If it's a simple "I didn't see you when I moved into your lane" I'll sometimes tap two fingers at my eyes then point at the offending driver in a "Look where you're going" motion. Usually I get a "sorry" wave or acknowledgement. Sometimes I get the finger. Either way, they did respond so I'll just let it go and be on my way. There are just to many clueless morons out there to carry them all with you.

I've ridden/driven in some pretty intense traffic in various countries throughout Europe, North America, and Asia. But even though I've been in much faster traffic, and much denser traffic, and even much more aggressive traffic, the US takes the prize for insulated, unaware, distracted, and just plain clueless drivers. When you're totally self-absorbed in the minutiae of your own life and happen to be driving the biggest car, then why should you care what goes on outside your windows?

It's actually one reason I like to ride at night. The highways are much more pleasant with only a tenth of the normal traffic.

My wife sometimes laughs as I carry on a running commentary on other traffic. "That guy's gonna run the light. She's coming into our lane. He's gonna cut off that truck. Idiot in the fast lane on cell phone doing 10 under." I can usually nail them pretty well, which gives me an extra edge in planning my responses before the stupidity occurs. And if by chance the stay in their lane and don't do something stupid then nothing is lost.

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Guess I am a slow learner, or just too damn stupid

Commuting to work in my truck see more STUPID acts per daily commute than I have fingers & toes. Those village idiots that drag race along side you and damn near hit the bumper of cars along side and in front of you before cutting you off ... PISS's ME OFF !!
If I see them coming I will accelerate and further close the hole they preceve is there. In 5 years have been witness to TWO rear enders and LOTS of skidding tires that were due to this practice. ( Did I cause them ? ... I think not )

On the LT however, I move to the oppisate edge of lane and let the ASSHOLES go .... Then apply a liberal amount of visible middle finger.

If frontier justice was legal our roadways would be so much safer .... The knuckle heads would very quickly get weeded out.

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2 rounds from a 9MM in the left front fender should get their attention.

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How Have You Reacted..

My favourite used to be to wait till they were in traffic and approach the lefthand (opposite side to driver) rear door and open it. Tell them what I thought of their driving and then leave. Leaving them to shut the door.

Another good one is to knock on the drivers window and ask very politely "Do you want to sell your indicators/mirrors" They will respond with confusion. You repeat the question again adding as the lights change ".... it's just you don't seem to use them at all"

Driving a bus in Central London I would regularly get called various names. At first it got me frustrated, till I found a way of reducing the stress. If someone called me a A$$h%le, the window would open and I would yell "No I'm not! I'm a B&sta*d. He told me" pointing up the road behind me to a random car.

I did get stopped once (many years ago) for removing a mirror from a car that kept swerving into my path as I tried to pass. (To Self " I must not attack unmarked police vehicles") I explained that I assumed he was drunk and the seven police cars used to stop me vanished as quickly as they appeared.


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2 rounds from a 9MM in the left front fender should get their attention.
Let us know how that works out for you . . .

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Let us know how that works out for you . . .
I bet it works really well. All you have to do is find a safe place to pull over, take off your gloves, unzip the tank bag ( or open the side cases) get the gun out, place it in your lap, catch up with the car that cut you off by zipping and weaving through the traffic, pull up along side of the guy with the cell phone, grab the gun really fast and point-N-click.
Then the next day the local newspaper will tell the story about the crazed biker that cut off all the people on the road and shot at the innocent car driver that was just minding their own business.

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Because we are a lot more vulnerable than the idiots in cars, it is always best to leave extra margin, anticipate the worst and arrive safely at your destination.
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....If frontier justice was legal our roadways would be so much safer....The knuckle heads would very quickly get weeded out.
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I bet it works really well. All you have to do is find a safe place to pull over, take off your gloves, unzip the tank bag ( or open the side cases) get the gun out, place it in your lap, catch up with the car that cut you off by zipping and weaving through the traffic, pull up along side of the guy with the cell phone, grab the gun really fast and point-N-click.
Then the next day the local newspaper will tell the story about the crazed biker that cut off all the people on the road and shot at the innocent car driver that was just minding their own business.
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Ahhhh WTF, since we're trading in our pure as the wind driven snow images, I say just bust that cap right in the guys ass! Oh, and make sure your really bad tat's are showing while your doing it!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Because we are a lot more vulnerable than the idiots in cars, it is always best to leave extra margin, anticipate the worst and arrive safely at your destination.

+1

For a WI man, this is an unusual example of the voice of reason. Usually, they are selling processed meat and cheese, trying to kill us. This WI citizen provides good advice.

A lady on her cell driving her Jaguar tried to mow SO and I down. She was blending into a two lane from her on ramp, then she started drifting into our lane. Naturally, she did not use a turn indicator. I was watching her drift toward our space. I powered ahead of her and gave her a friendly jesture (really, not the bird) and she was visually startled to see us shooting past her "Ford." One skill they try to teach us at every race school I attended is vision both ahead and behind. I believe most road rage events are someone not having vision. They instead have poor planning. Then the "this is your fault rationalization" skills kick in and the game is on. Most humans forget that 60 MPH is 88 feet per second. When they glance down at their BLACKBERRY/NAV/CELL/IPOD to text/whatever for "just a minute" heaven knows where their CAGE will be when they finally get back to the task of DRIVING.

Don't worry about getting even for the mistakes of others. However, if an accident or crash happens, get their electronic toys involved for time stamp purposes. A recent case in UK resulted in a man being sent to jail for killing a person with his SUV. His PDA proved he was texting his daughter at the exact moment of the impact. He was not DRIVING. He was KILLING.

Be careful friends. Avoid the IDIOTS.

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Yep, just call me "buzz kill".

I had a "buddy" that used to carry a pow-pow in his saddlebags and once I saw him get cut off and sure enough, he pulled over to get the gun and tried to catch the guy. We just waited under the shade tree and had a cold one until he came back without ever firing a round or even seeing which way the car went.

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I like to shoot first and ask questions later......just kidding, but on many occassions I've thought that might have been a justifiable end to the confrontation. There is no valid excuse for most, if not all, of the daydreaming and distracted auto drivers colliding with bikers. I just love the comment from the auto driver "I didn't see you so it's not my fault...you just weren't there when I looked!"

Gee, I guess that heap of metal in the road isn't really my bike because it just isn't really right there where I'm looking right now, and I'm not really on the way to the emergency room because I wasn't there when you didn't hit me and ..............
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....I just love the comment from the auto driver "I didn't see you so it's not my fault...you just weren't there when I looked!"
Well Dakota, not that it will make you feel any better, BUT I drive a rather distinctively marked and painted vehicle for my "day job." It even has a funny looking 4 color light bar on top of it! I always figured I WAS visible about a mile out. Apparently, I am about as visible as you are on your bike. Don't ask me how I know this.

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Well Dakota, not that it will make you feel any better, BUT I drive a rather distinctively marked and painted vehicle for my "day job." It even has a funny looking 4 color light bar on top of it! I always figured I WAS visible about a mile out. Apparently, I am about as visible as you are on your bike. Don't ask me how I know this.

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Gotta say I really like the phonetic identifier you've chosen! I''m sure that during your "day job" activities you experience some of the most mind-boggling blunders known to mankind. Whenever I see any of your "day-job" counterparts in my area, I instantly become a model citizen but, then again, I avoid the "cell phone plastered to my head" syndrome that afflicts so many of the wheeled-missile operators on our roadways. These people seem so oblivious to their surroundings it's just plain downright scary - I give them a wide berth.
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Pee-On,
Gotta say I really like the phonetic identifier you've chosen! I''m sure that during your "day job" activities you experience some of the most mind-boggling blunders known to mankind. Whenever I see any of your "day-job" counterparts in my area, I instantly become a model citizen but, then again, I avoid the "cell phone plastered to my head" syndrome that afflicts so many of the wheeled-missile operators on our roadways. These people seem so oblivious to their surroundings it's just plain downright scary - I give them a wide berth.
Yup!(filler)

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Might not be very good for filtering but you could make your own gap ;-)))

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Oh my! (filler)

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Might not be very good for filtering but you could make your own gap ;-)))

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I am particularly fond of the rocket/grenade launcher shown on the "desert" model..........think you would finally get the attention of idiot drivers with that baby pointed at their gas tank?
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