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post #1 of 15 Old Jan 2nd, 2008, 6:06 pm Thread Starter
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Howdy - I usually lurk, but now have a question that maybe someone has the answer to. Recently got word that our State is converting to Oxygenated fuel (10% alcohol) by September 08. Our area is one of the "pilot" areas and is converting as I write this tome. Just curious how the gasohol is going to affect my 07 GT fuel system? I have heard of older fuel lines failing due to the new alcohol enriched fuel as well as plugged filter due to the debris scoured by the alcohol. I do know that performance and mileage are affected. Just wondering if anyone has experience with the new and "improved" ecologically enhancing fuel. Or should I just not worry, shut up and ride?
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No problems here.

As far as I was aware, here in Michigan they have been using 10% alcohol for years now. Some places advertise that they don't ("We have 100% gasoline!") but I've run the 90-10 in my '99LT for many thousands of miles. Never had an issue.

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That makes me feel more confident. Maybe the best thing is just go ride. Appreciate the help.
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Seeing as oil just hit 100 a barrel, we will be running more and more alcohol in our fuels.

It also means I think of saving money by riding the bike, and it is taking on even more of a major transportation factor in my lifestyle.

44 to 26 in the car, it is starting to make a huge difference.

Cold or not I have been riding, I will ride tomorrow and it will be low to mid teens when I leave, 30ish when I then leave work.

It is not looking pretty, and I heat by oil, it was 3.59 last month.

God only knows where it is going to stop.

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+1 on Dave's comments.

We've had "gasahol" here in NE Ohio ever since I can remember. No issues on either of my scoots.

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We have had gasahol here in NY for more than a year. I don't see any difference. Maybe if we get to a higher percentage, then there may be a difference. My cars and 06 KGT run just fine!

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44 to 26 in the car, it is starting to make a huge difference.

Cold or not I have been riding, I will ride tomorrow and it will be low to mid teens when I leave, 30ish when I then leave work.
I'm right with you on that one. Only in my case it's 44 on the bike or 15 in my truck. At current gas prices it won't take long for an investment in heated gear to pay off.

Now if I could only find a good way to ride when it snows.

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They serve the stuff up at the JRB in Ft. Worth... LT/GMC both run fine... although, there did seem to be a bit more exhaust residue...

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You should be just fine, that stuff is used a lot of places with no issues.

So, since you're a resident can you get me a deal on some good cheese? I've been through Tillamook a few times on rides; always stop at the factory for a tour and snacks.

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I'm right with you on that one. Only in my case it's 44 on the bike or 15 in my truck. At current gas prices it won't take long for an investment in heated gear to pay off.

Now if I could only find a good way to ride when it snows.
Here is your snow solution....Ural
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I'm with you on the cheese. I lived near there for about six years (some great riding in that area too) than moved to Texas. Imagine how happy I was one day about two years ago when I walked into my local grocery store and found Tillamook Cheese in the Deli. Best cheese going (sorry Wisconson folks, but it's the truth). I loved touring their factory and tasting all their different cheeses too.

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I am gratified that our cheese has made it all the way to Texas. For the rest of you cheese lovers, it's a great excuse to take a great ride and travel through Tillamook. Anyone coming this way - give me a yell and I can give you some tips on some great scenic rides.
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Hi pointman. I'm thinking about a ride up that way in March.

My wife is a CPA, that's the worst of the tax season for her. My son, 15, has spring break in mid-March. I thought, weather allowing my son and I would ride up that way for a couple days.

I want him to see the Spruce Goose and the cheese factory. Also Powell's Books. Any other tips would be helpful.

I really enjoy Oregon. This will be my first chance to ride there.

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Got fuel today and this thread popped into my head. On the inside of my fuel lid it says Minimal 87 AKI.

So that translates to what US grade?

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Fuel Question

Is it oxygenated or reformulated gas that Oregon is switching to?

Reformulated gas uses Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether (MTBE) to meet the oxygen requirements of the Clean Air Act.

http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/gas.htm

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question347.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTBE

Its a carcinogen that is water soluable. Kind of pointless to make gasoline water soluable, isn't it?

The other effects that I have found is that the California reformulated gas doesn't evaporate and your efficiecy is reduced (read MPG) by 25-30%. It will burn "cleaner", but when you now use more fuel to do the same work, how much "cleaner" is it?

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