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In the six+ months since I bought my last rear 880 has the cost of tires gone up $100 or have I been hosed by my dealer again? Last time it was to the tune of $150 with me pulling the wheel myself. This time $250 without even a Thank You.. Pass me the KY please.....

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Have the White House pass the KY...
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Maybe we should consider running Car tires.. hahahaha..

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Maybe we should consider running Car tires.. hahahaha..
Must be made in America to be affordable!
This guy is running car tires on his bike with success.
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Gilles.. I'm going to talk to Tony.. perhaps we can find a rear rim for exploration.. I would like to see if it would work on the LT.. don't know if it can swing the additional weight... or how that might be blamed for "Final Drive" fallout..

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Channing, I would be more concerned with the tire clearing the swing arm on the LT. Some folks were having issues with the Dunlop tires (I think it was David Shealey) and had to shim...

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Yup.. definitely gonna have to check all the facts out, pard..

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In the six+ months since I bought my last rear 880 has the cost of tires gone up $100 or have I been hosed by my dealer again? Last time it was to the tune of $150 with me pulling the wheel myself. This time $250 without even a Thank You.. Pass me the KY please.....
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Have the White House pass the KY...
The dollar is losing his strength big time and everything imported costs more now...
Also, don't forget the price of petroleum (and petroleum related products) of course. That makes EVERYTHING go up--speaking of lubing your bung hole.

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I just saw the 880 rear advertised in Rider for $199.95. From a dealer it will be more. And no, dealers seldom say thanks.
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In the six+ months since I bought my last rear 880 has the cost of tires gone up $100 or have I been hosed by my dealer again? Last time it was to the tune of $150 with me pulling the wheel myself. This time $250 without even a Thank You.. Pass me the KY please.....
Cyclegear.com still has the rear for $140 if anyone is interested. I posted it a couple of weeks ago.

Motorhelmets.com has the front for $90.

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Trying to have an open mind here.

Several things that he states about car tires are just no so. For instance: To get the grip you need on a bike you would have to go with a high performance car tire (VR or ZR rated) and based on the pictures he did. Those tires do not last 70,000 miles on any car. Maybe 30k if you are easy on them, in most cases more like 20,000. And high performance tire usually do not carry a mileage warranty.

Besides that, it sure would be nice to go to your local tire dealer and buy something at a good price that will last 20,000 miles + . Who is going to try it out and let us know???

PS: not me...


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This guy is running car tires on his bike with success.
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Trying to have an open mind here.

Several things that he states about car tires are just no so. For instance: To get the grip you need on a bike you would have to go with a high performance car tire (VR or ZR rated) and based on the pictures he did. Those tires do not last 70,000 miles on any car. Maybe 30k if you are easy on them, in most cases more like 20,000. And high performance tire usually do not carry a mileage warranty.

good points, but cars weigh more than bikes and dont have the lean capacity that bikes do. You dont get the scrubbing of the tire as you get on a car. I can see getting much higher mileage with them mounted on a bike than a car.
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Cyclegear.com still has the rear for $140 if anyone is interested. I posted it a couple of weeks ago.

Motorhelmets.com has the front for $90.
Thanks Neil,

They wouldn't list the final price "with shipping" until they get with UPS, but, it looks like a savings of about $10.00 compared to others.

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BT020s BIAS

I ordered this morning a set of BT020s from swmototires for $220.00 with free shipping.

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Cyclegear.com still has the rear for $140 if anyone is interested. I posted it a couple of weeks ago.

Motorhelmets.com has the front for $90.
Thanks! Paul Mitchell told me about this post since I need new tires. Motorhelmets doesn't stock the rear and wanted $20.00 to ship the front. Cyclegear had the rear at $141 and the front at $119, plus $16 for an oversize charge to ship. Tried to get Cyclegear to price match, but they said no. Ordered both from Cyclegear anyway. Little bottom line price difference and would rather order both from same vendor. Now all I have to do is find someone to mount them cheaply in the Cleveland Area.

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Well all good points.

Biggest point is if they can do it on car tires of any compound, ply, and on and on, why is a bike tire so much more expensive, and wear so quickly, and only about 1/3 rd of the size, using 2/3 rd less materials.

Hmmmm now that is suspicious

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Trying to have an open mind here.

Several things that he states about car tires are just no so. For instance: To get the grip you need on a bike you would have to go with a high performance car tire (VR or ZR rated) and based on the pictures he did. Those tires do not last 70,000 miles on any car. Maybe 30k if you are easy on them, in most cases more like 20,000. And high performance tire usually do not carry a mileage warranty.

Besides that, it sure would be nice to go to your local tire dealer and buy something at a good price that will last 20,000 miles + . Who is going to try it out and let us know???

PS: not me...

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Well all good points.

Biggest point is if they can do it on car tires of any compound, ply, and on and on, why is a bike tire so much more expensive, and wear so quickly, and only about 1/3 rd of the size, using 2/3 rd less materials.

Hmmmm now that is suspicious

Sorry for the thread drift
Numbers - all in the manufacturing volume/numbers - small by comparison. Locally, the shops around here are blaming the oil situation (wonder where they got that info??) for the increase in tire pricing. The conversation stops once you ask for specifics; such as "why didn't car tire prices increase then?" Etc, etc.
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My dad ran bias ply tires on an Indian Chief back in the 40's and 50's. He worked for the county back then, in a building right next to the sherriff's garage. They ran car tires on their Harleys too. The failure rate on their tires was pretty high, and they didn't run the speeds that we run now or the distances either for that matter. The reason that they ran car tires was not to save money, it was a necessity. Motorcycle tires were hard to come by back then, they just weren't producing many for aftermarket replacements.
I realize that tires have improved greatly since then and comparing those old tires to modern ones is like comparing apples to oranges, but I think I'll still spend the extra money for Metzelers, I just feel safer having a motorcycle tire on my motorcycle.

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Then and now

I buy my tires from SWMOTOTIRES.com.

Then: 01/16/06, 880 front 90.95, rear 111.95 ($202.90 pair)

Now: 11/04/07, 880 front 113.95, rear 184.95 ($298.90 pair)

But shipping is free for two, and they come in about 5 days or less.

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Thanks for the "heads up" Neil,
this thread got my attention as my front tire is getting "thin" I did some surfing and although Motorhelmets had the best price on the front tire I didn't like the disclaimer of absolutely no returns or exchanges etc.

It doesn't happen often but I didn't want to get "stuck" with the wrong tire.

I took a ride down to Cycle Gear and ordered a front and rear 880 for $283 out the door,
since they're shipping it to the store where I'll pick em up shipping was $2. a tire.

The catalouge they were ordering from listed the front for $134 and the rear for $241.....whoa..

I convinced them to sell them to me for the price listed on their website, $119 and $141 respectively.

Hope this information can save somebody else a couple of bucks.


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cyclegear treated me right. I bought two rears because I figured the price would go up soon. Also ordered a crampbuster and a balaclava that works great. I think I paid 8 dollars shipping each tire so I still was well below anyplace else I could find. And then there is tax if you buy locally. I received everything in 4 days.

I didn't buy from motorhelmets, decided to hold off on my front tire as they haven't moved a whole lot.

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I ordered this morning a set of BT020s from swmototires for $220.00 with free shipping.
Wow that was fast!!!
My tires showed up around 11:00 am this morning via UPS.

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