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Got a fever

Don't know who I caught it from or where I was when it hit me but, I seem to have caught the Jap Sport Tourer Fever. My computer keeps taking me to the Kawasaki Concourse, Yamaha FJR1300, & the Honda ST1300. Don't know anything about any of them, just know I want one. Anyone here have any opinion on any of them?

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post #2 of 18 Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 8:24 am
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Elton, I don't think you could go wrong with any of these bikes.

I noticed the absence of the K1200GT... Was that on purpose? Tired of Beemers perhaps?

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Don't know who I caught it from or where I was when it hit me but, I seem to have caught the Jap Sport Tourer Fever. My computer keeps taking me to the Kawasaki Concourse, Yamaha FJR1300, & the Honda ST1300. Don't know anything about any of them, just know I want one. Anyone here have any opinion on any of them?

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Opinion on one... yes I have an opinion and just like other anatomical features found on (most) humans we all do... but I digress.

You said sport touring. If that implies SPORT Touring I think the FJR is a likely target. If you mean Sport TOURING, that implies R1200RT.

Just my opinion. Not a fan of the Kaw. Still think the K1200GT should be considered, even the earlier incarnation, before the transvers mounted motot. A wonderful bike with scary power and smoothness, but if you are ready to get out of BMW... well like I said, FJR.

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Don't know who I caught it from or where I was when it hit me but, I seem to have caught the Jap Sport Tourer Fever. My computer keeps taking me to the Kawasaki Concourse, Yamaha FJR1300, & the Honda ST1300. Don't know anything about any of them, just know I want one. Anyone here have any opinion on any of them?
Everytime I feel this FLU coming on I go ride one(of the big 3) and it seems to PREVENT me from actually catching anything

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Take 2 asparins and if you don't feel better tomorrow....go ride a RT or GT!!
That will make you feel better!

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Don't know who I caught it from or where I was when it hit me but, I seem to have caught the Jap Sport Tourer Fever. My computer keeps taking me to the Kawasaki Concourse, Yamaha FJR1300, & the Honda ST1300. Don't know anything about any of them, just know I want one. Anyone here have any opinion on any of them?
I have never rode the Kawa, or the ST1300 fr that matter, but I have rode the JFR many miles and it is a fine bike and will put a smile on your face.
But I do prefer the RT1200, just not as fast.

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Big E...

I felt the same fever...only mine was brought on by my closest BMW dealer closing and leaving 240 miles / 4 hrs away from the next nearest one.

I had been closely looking at jumping to the GT...but the above scratched that option. Thus I looked at all the bikes you mentioned (GWs aren't me at all).

Honda ST1300...the most toury of the three you mentioned...and least sporty. It is the hottest of the three. They are still trying to figure out the heat management for the rider. Being in El Paso TX...I passed mainly on that. Plus I thought the style of the ST was too blah...didn't speak to me.
I didn't even ride it.

Kawi C14...Most sporty...least toury of the three. Most aggressive seating position and most like a rice burner. I like the looks O.K...but not the ribs on the side cases. I'm 6'4" and felt too cramped to tour. I took a quick ride and then I passed.

Yama FJR1300...The middle ground of these three bikes. Good blend of tour and sport. Still more toward the sport end of the spectrum for sure. 145 hr and quite quick. If you're coming off an LT like I did...it will feel small and light, but it's actually a big bike. I ended up with this one and I am very happy to have it. I am aftermarket-ing it with seats/shield/lowered peg/heated grips to get it closer to the missed LT comfort...but all there would require the same.

You can find left over NEW 07' FJRs all over the country on the web for well under MSRP which is 13,790 for the manual clutch model (A). Dealers are selling them for at or under 11K. My dealer told me last week he as about 8 still in the crate.

Honestly, I'd rather still be riding BMW...but I'm happy with my new Jap bike.


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I'm not ruling out BMW, I love my LT. The RT talks to me every time I'm in there. I figure I could sell my LT & buy a new FJR or ST or sell my LT & buy a used RT. The bad thing is I leave tomorrow morning for work & will be gone till Jan. 4th. & won't be able to go check any of them out. The good thing is that will keep me from doing something to quick & the fever might go away.

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For SPORT touring, why not the K1200S? That is how it is billed...as a SPORT touring machine. If the power doesn't scare the bejebus out of you it should be lots of fun.
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What about an older VFR 1998-2001 before the V-tec crap?

They are affordable, handle great and the seating position is comparable to a beemer once Heli-bars are added.

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Don't know who I caught it from or where I was when it hit me but, I seem to have caught the Jap Sport Tourer Fever. My computer keeps taking me to the Kawasaki Concourse, Yamaha FJR1300, & the Honda ST1300. Don't know anything about any of them, just know I want one. Anyone here have any opinion on any of them?
I've ridden the FJR1300 and Councours 14, so I have opinions on those. I haven't ridden the ST1300, but have an opinion on that, too.

FJR1300 - Great bike, lots of power with smooth delivery, handles great, stops great, comfortable ergos while being the most aggressive of the group (and they aren't that aggressive compared outside of the sport touring realm). Big saddlebags to carry lots of stuff. Lots of aftermarket options, great online forums and support, and a proven design.

Councours 14 - The ride I took on this convinced me it's not a bike I would buy, mainly due to some wonky handling characteristics (didn';t want to turn in and tended to stand up out of corners on steady throttle). It could have been a suspension setup issue couple with tire pressures being wrong (front had 5psi more than rear) but Kawi people said that was normal (and I think they're stupid because I'm sure it's not). Lots of power and great brakes, comfortable ergos (probably between the K-GT and the R-RT), really big saddlebags. The mirrors aren't position well as I never could get the saddlebags out of the rear view and they blocked a significant portion of the view directly behind the bike, which is a big problem. Also, there is some "cheapness" in some parts. The glove box on the tank, for example, is poorly made, not stable, and the lid feels like it's about ready to break off the first time you open it. The opening was too small for my Treo smartphone in its case, and when I took it out and put it in it bounced and rattled around terribly, meaning it would get the snot beat out if it. And I don't think it seals well either, so anything in there would get wet in a rainstorm.

ST1300 - From all accounts a very sane and sensible bike that will go forever with few problems. But it's just not for me; not enough soul or personality for my tastes. And the ones I've sat on I never felt comfortable with the ergos; just something about where the bars are and the relation of the pegs to the seat felt weird to me. but that's a very personal thing.

If I was to buy Japanese it would be the FJR1300 (if that's not obvious at this point). i'm seriously considering a K1200GT right now, and I still think it beats the rest of these hands down.

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I test rode an ST and own an FJR. I did own a Concours long before its remake and was very satisfied with it so I really can't say anything bad about Kawi.
That said, from what I have read, of those three I would get the FJR all over again.
I also agree with the VFR as a bike worth looking at. I just bought one!

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Don't know who I caught it from or where I was when it hit me but, I seem to have caught the Jap Sport Tourer Fever. My computer keeps taking me to the Kawasaki Concourse, Yamaha FJR1300, & the Honda ST1300. Don't know anything about any of them, just know I want one. Anyone here have any opinion on any of them?
Big E balla'! Allow me to take it a lil different direction? I rode a Sprint ST a couple weeks back. Fun fun fun! That puppy was light and maneuverable. Very impressive. It felt a lot like my GT at HALF the PRICE! Of course, it doesn't have any of the GT's "toys."

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Well I hit all the bike shops I could on the way to the airport this morning & almost missed my flight. Couldn't find a St1300 to sit on but, did get to sit on a Connie & a FJR. Couldn't ride any, just sit. The Connie & FJR sat about the same with the bars a little higher on the Connie& sitting a little more upright than the FJR. I'm still a little more attracted to the FJR cause I loved my Venture & my Yamaha outboards so much. Well now I have a month to think about it & won't even see a motorcycle till I get back to the world.

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Don't know who I caught it from or where I was when it hit me but, I seem to have caught the Jap Sport Tourer Fever. My computer keeps taking me to the Kawasaki Concourse, Yamaha FJR1300, & the Honda ST1300. Don't know anything about any of them, just know I want one. Anyone here have any opinion on any of them?
They all give off too much heat. It is unbearable especially in Arizona summers. You are better off with LT, GT or RT.

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The fever will prolly go away & I'll keep my LT. Got another hour & a half wait in Houston for my flight, any bike shops close by?

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I traded in a ST for a GT because of the heat problems. I really liked the bike - it was pretty much bullet proof. But the heat managment was terrible. I think you'll be miserable in LA during all but the winter months.
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