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post #1 of 22 Old Aug 5th, 2007, 6:48 am Thread Starter
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Coach I'm staying in the game.

Last month my employer put a lot of pressure on me to sell my bike;
A:because they were worried about me riding and didn't want to lose me.
B:the cost of insurance due to risky behavior activities and accidents and we are a self insured company and just recently had 2 motorcycle accidents in the company. (the owners don't ride so they don't have any passion for the sport, however great people who care about their people. Gotta love that.
So I gave into the pressure and sold all of my gear (much thankful to those on this site who supported that sale; much of which is still in transit via US SLOW Mail. I tried to sell the bike at the local BMW dealer for a couple of weeks on consignment; thank goodness no luck.
So after 3 weeks of this nonsense I came back to my senses and realized that I wasn't giving up just a motorcycle but I was giving up a way of life. I was walking away from the only real stress relief I have and believe me I have a lot of stress in business management and sales.
Friday I went back to the BMW dealer picked up my bike spent $1200 on new gear and drove home with the biggest grin on my face.
The wife is pissed, since I sold all of my old gear including her stuff and I walk in the house with new gear. She knew the importance of the bike for my sanity and didn't want me to sell it in the first place. But to cut this story down, all is well and I'm back in the game coach.
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post #2 of 22 Old Aug 5th, 2007, 7:01 am
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I am glad for 'ya and I hope you never cost your employer one cent because of an accident. I understand your employers concern... however in this case, I am thinking his concern is more for his pocket than for you. Look at the bright side, you now have shiny new gear to wear.
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I have to admit I do like the new gear, but boy was the wife upset selling everything at good prices then having to buy new. Life is too short to give that much worry. On with the rides.
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I hope you find a new and better job soon. If my employer told me I couldnt ride a motorcycle, I would kindly suggest that the employer would have a better chance of anti-gravity urination involving a heavily braided rope.



But since I am my own employer, chances of that happening are very slim.

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Thanks for..

The reminder... When I didn't have the bike, my lovely bride kept asking me.... why don't you go buy a bike...

Now she tells me... "you need to go for a ride"....

Yeah.. It took a while, but I think after 41 years of riding I've figured it out...

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post #8 of 22 Old Aug 5th, 2007, 12:04 pm Thread Starter
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Deacon,
My wife says the same thing; God love her, she understands the stress relief that riding provides.
Believe me it had been a agonizing past 3 weeks; but my spirits are sure high now.
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It seems that more and more employers think they own those who work for them and can tell them how to run their lives. Unless they are the military, they are sadly mistaken. I just went through this discussion with my employer a couple weeks ago. Told them to show me where in the "corporate policy" it said they could do what they were trying to get away with...that one stumped them.
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Glad your back in the game!

Fortunately, my wife has always back me in this "sport" - to the point of saying she didn't care how many bikes I had.

My employer on the other hand has released a policy stating that no motorcycles will be used company business, meaning that I'm not supposed to ride to any classes or from location to location. To which I answer - Hide and watch! When they start paying ALL my insurance like they do the Union, then maybe I'll pay attention.


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Man that's a new way to get new Gear may have to tell my wife that my boss wants me to sell my bike and all my gear. then wait 3 weeks and get new gear. OH wait I'm self-employed Don;t think that will fly

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Glad your back in the game!

Fortunately, my wife has always back me in this "sport" - to the point of saying she didn't care how many bikes I had.

My employer on the other hand has released a policy stating that no motorcycles will be used company business, meaning that I'm not supposed to ride to any classes or from location to location. To which I answer - Hide and watch! When they start paying ALL my insurance like they do the Union, then maybe I'll pay attention.

I had a simular experience -My new employer,long story short, tried to tell me that I was not allowed to ride to work....my response -"are you kidding?????"
He proceeded to tell me a long insurance story that started with NO less than three wheels are covered...I still ride when I want to

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Way to go

Welcome back to the living !!!!


I started a new job last May and I applied for additional life insurance above what my new employer pays for and they turned me down (still trying to verify the reason and I have often wondered if it is because I own a two wheel mode of transportation).

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Okay, some of that is hard to believe. Can an employer actually tell you how you can get to and from work? And can they really blame it on insurance? I am aware that some insurance companies discriminate against motorcyclists with higher rates and such, but never heard about it really. We probably have about 20% of our employees that ride, including the owner, so motorcycles are not taboo here. Of course, that's only about 8 people. From sport bikes to harleys to custom choppers to my LT.

That's unreal to imagine being told that I can't ride my bike. The owner has been very supportive of me teaching and understanding when I need to leave early to go to class, etc. I guess I'd be looking for a new job if that happened.

Sorry to hear of you guys' experiences.

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Remember , we work to live not the otherway around. Glad you are back in the saddle.

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If there payin' me NFL wages or somethin, maybe..

Otherwise, I hand 'em my TFFL (Take a Flyin F'in Leap) card and tell 'em to have a nice day

cheez...next thing they'll be tellin us how much hair we are allowed to have on our arse's....what a minute, I think that was already covered in another thread
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Last month my employer put a lot of pressure on me to sell my bike;
A:because they were worried about me riding and didn't want to lose me.
B:the cost of insurance due to risky behavior activities and accidents and we are a self insured company and just recently had 2 motorcycle accidents in the company....So I gave into the pressure and sold all of my gear....So after 3 weeks of this nonsense I came back to my senses and realized that I wasn't giving up just a motorcycle but I was giving up a way of life. I was walking away from the only real stress relief I have and believe me I have a lot of stress in business management and sales....Friday I went back to the BMW dealer picked up my bike spent $1200 on new gear and drove home with the biggest grin on my face....The wife is pissed, since I sold all of my old gear including her stuff and I walk in the house with new gear....
What an awesome story: man temporarily looses sanity. Man regains sanity in nick of time. Man buys $1200 worth of new gear AND pisses off old lady at THE SAME TIME! All in three weeks!! Congrat's. You just found you.
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....If my employer told me I couldnt ride a motorcycle, I would kindly suggest that the employer would have a better chance of anti-gravity urination involving a heavily braided rope....
So, if the village idiot is understanding this correctly, are you saying that an ice cube would stand a better chance in hell than you giving up your bike?!

BTW, your employer ALSO discourages/prohibits smoking, drinking, small cars, SUV's, fatty foods, being overweight, etc. etc, right?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Being self employed after over 20 years working for large corporations in the IT industry, it just amazes me to see as time goes by what employers feel they can get away with under threat of "your job" be it spoken or implied.

Next time you begin to feel that "people at work care about you", especially management, don't fall for it... That is a load of crap. If they don't like the fact that you ride, they need to take a look at the Bill of Rights. There is no exception for employers that find it inconvenient for their insurance terms.

I say, "fxxk them".. Find another job. I wouldn't let them bully you into telling you whether you can ride or not. My suggestions is that you contact the Equal Opportunities Council in your state and consult them as to whether a formal complaint is in order here.

I have worked for a number of idiots in my day, hence why I have my own company, but this one takes the cake.

Congratulations though, I am glad to hear that you have seen the light !!!!!

Happy riding...
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....Next time you begin to feel that "people at work care about you", especially management, don't fall for it....That is a load of crap. If they don't like the fact that you ride, they need to take a look at the Bill of Rights....
Or the next time you feel that "big government" cares about you, also.

Now, one thing I didn't get: this "bill of rights." What are those? In today's Amerika, aren't all "rights" void where prohibited by law?!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Now, one thing I didn't get: this "bill of rights." What are those? In today's Amerika, aren't all "rights" void where prohibited by law?!
Hi, Jay. No, just enough people to implicitly agree to ignore them, or the disregard of same, or better yet, to agree that the language means something else entirely.

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Hi, Jay. No, just enough people to implicitly agree to ignore them, or the disregard of same, or better yet, to agree that the language means something else entirely.
Ah yes, Karl. I've been told to stop interpreting things so literally! In my next life....

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My company doesn't question how I get to and from work or ask what my hobbies are on any insurance applications. What they do state is that an employee may not ride a motorcycle or take a non-scheduled flight (pilot your own or fly on a private plane) on company business. I can live with that, I couldn't live with them governing my personal time. But, then again, I have 3 months to retirement so my view is a little different now than it was 25 years ago.

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