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post #1 of 19 Old Aug 4th, 2007, 8:38 pm Thread Starter
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Rode The New Concours14 Today

I was fortunate enough to get to ride a new concours today and all I can say is WHOA!! Awesome ride. Headed down to get one Tuesday.
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More please..

Care to elaborate a bit?

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Gene, I sell Harleys in North Alabama. One of the other salesman's customer was looking at a sportster and mentioned that he just bought the first concours 14 in Alabama and that he had been waiting for the last 8 months. I asked him if he had it with him and he said yes. I walked out to look at it and I mentioned that I had been waiting to see one up close and would love to ride one so he pitches me the fob to the security system. This is blowing my mind as I had never even met the guy before. Rode it for about 4 or 5 miles and was really impressed at the smoothness and the handling. You could tell the power was there also but I did'nt really get on it since he had less than 100 miles on it. It had dual discs up front with floating rotors and a single in the back, absolutely no driveline lash. The windshield was too short for the kind of protection I like but there is supposed to be a taller version soon. The bags were easy to remove and it looked good with them off. It was the non ABS model. I called a nearby dealership and they have an ABS model coming around the middle of the month which runs around $13,800 plus tax. I found a non ABS unit in a neighboring state for $12,400 but if I get one it will be ABS. I'm having a hard time deciding between it, the R1200RT or the K1200GT. I have ridden the RT and loved it and I can have cruise and better weather protection plus heated grips with it. I have not had the chance to ride the GT though. Don't know if I want to pay the price difference for the Beemers. I am riding a Buell Ulysses now and it is a heck of a lot of fun but I like to ride year round and the weather protection is just not there. Had an LT before but I never liked the top heaviness at slow speeds. Other than that I loved it. Hope I did not ramble too much and this helps.
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Same boat sorta, Lookin at the bmw's to find a replacement for my Fz1. Lt not sure on, Rt=nah, GT have not tried, Concours?
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You gotta at least test ride the GT. It does everything you said the Concours14 does, plus everything the RT does. Sure it costs more, but it delivers more. At least give one a whirl before putting any money down on anything.

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Running out and buying the new Connie without giving the GT a testride would be silly, IMO. But then again, I've done some silly things too. Who knows? I may just end up with one next year. But I'll need to find one to test ride first. I'm just not too sure that I can live without the ESA option, or the cruise control that my GT has. Sure, there's aftermarket alternatives. But I really love and appreciate the way these two options are integrated into the GT.
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Thanks for the good advice. I think you are right. I am seriously looking at ricrobs 06. Wheels are turning in my head even as I type. It has everything that I would have added.
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I had a deposit down on a C14 for about 6 months, then decide to go the GT route. I wanted all the stuff the GT offered and looked into the used GT market. Do some shopping and you can find a good deal on a used GT for about $2K more than a C14. Well worth it in my opinion.

There's no doubt the C14 is a great bike. It all depends on what you want in a bike and what you plan on doing with it.


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The GT has a whole lot more. In '06, it has the servo assisted brakes. I would much prefer that then just standard ABS. Add the servo assisted brakes to the telelever (anti-dive) and you have a great combo. In my opinion, hands down, the GT used is the way to go....

Me, i'll stick with the LT. 500 miles on Saturday in the mountains with plenty of rain clinched it for me. Protection, smoothness, etc...
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Running out and buying the new Connie without giving the GT a testride would be silly, IMO. But then again, I've done some silly things too. Who knows? I may just end up with one next year. But I'll need to find one to test ride first. I'm just not too sure that I can live without the ESA option, or the cruise control that my GT has. Sure, there's aftermarket alternatives. But I really love and appreciate the way these two options are integrated into the GT.
Cmon, Joe...I aint buyin that youre gettin a Connie after riding your GT for 2 seasons. Thatd be like staying at the Ritz for a few weeks then aching to stay at Motel6.... Youre already at the top of the pile, why step down?

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Cmon, Joe...I aint buyin that youre gettin a Connie after riding your GT for 2 seasons. Thatd be like staying at the Ritz for a few weeks then aching to stay at Motel6.... Youre already at the top of the pile, why step down?

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Running out and buying the new Connie without giving the GT a testride would be silly, IMO. But then again, I've done some silly things too. Who knows? I may just end up with one next year. But I'll need to find one to test ride first. I'm just not too sure that I can live without the ESA option, or the cruise control that my GT has. Sure, there's aftermarket alternatives. But I really love and appreciate the way these two options are integrated into the GT.
Joe, couple questions on the GT:
How many miles do you have on it now?

What problems/warranty items have you had with it, besides the rear drive failure?

How many miles do you honestly think the suspension is going to go before needing a rebuild/replace?

Do you have an idea on the cost of the ESA rebuild/replace?

What are your maintainence costs running? I've heard some outlandish dollar amounts for valve adjustments.

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Thanks!

Thanks for the elaboration, (I think that's a word, LOL). I will be looking to possibly replace the LT next year, and if a new LT model is not out I will certainly be looking around and the Connie is one I would consider.

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I have decided to get an 06 GT. I liked the connie a lot but I really wanted the cruise and the heated grips. Just happened to look at the classifieds and saw the 06 with everything I would have put on it anyway, motolites,remus exhaust, Mayer seat, and I get to go out to the west coast to get it and ride it home on top of that. I appreciate all the good feedback on here that helped me make the decision.
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Cmon, Joe...I aint buyin that youre gettin a Connie after riding your GT for 2 seasons. Thatd be like staying at the Ritz for a few weeks then aching to stay at Motel6.... Youre already at the top of the pile, why step down?
As hard as it may be to believe (especially in a BMW forum) other manufacturers make really good products. And being an ex-Ninja owner, I really became a huge Kaw fan. That '98 ZX-11 was fast, smooth, relatively trouble-free, and georgeous. I have to believe that the C14 has some of that stuff in there.

But to tell the whole story...
I sat on and inspected the C14 while at MotoGP. I was pretty letdown with it's fit & finish. Now I know these demo models take a lot of abuse from uncaring tire-kickers, but JEEZ! ... There were parts that wanted to fall off! I was very disapponted with that.

For now, I'll stay with the GT. You know...the cream of the crop of sport-touring.

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Joe, couple questions on the GT:
How many miles do you have on it now?
Almost 24K.

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What problems/warranty items have you had with it, besides the rear drive failure?
  • My dealer replaced my front seat...just because I made a comment. The new one is a LOT better. It was off an '07, before BMW redesigned the seats for the later '07s.
  • My centerstand stops/brackets were replaced at 6K. And then, a redesigned centerstand, brackets & stops were replaced at Sierra BMW during the final drive episode at just under 19K.
  • Cruise control button was acting a little goofy, so my dealer replaced it early on.
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How many miles do you honestly think the suspension is going to go before needing a rebuild/replace?
At 24K, it still feels really REALLY good. I'm thinking at least 36K before servicing, if not 48K.

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Do you have an idea on the cost of the ESA rebuild/replace?
No idea what-so-ever. But I don't think it's going to be as expensive as buying, installing, and maintaining a set of Ohlins on an LT costs the average rider.

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What are your maintainence costs running? I've heard some outlandish dollar amounts for valve adjustments.
So far, maintenance costs have been really cheap, compared to the LT. But soon I will be getting the 24K service done, and will be getting the Full Meal Deal. I will report back then what the cost was.
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Running out and buying the new Connie without giving the GT a testride would be silly....But then again, I've done some silly things too....
+1, except: NEVER did anything silly! OK, maintaining straight face....

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Same boat sorta, Lookin at the bmw's to find a replacement for my Fz1. Lt not sure on, Rt=nah, GT have not tried, Concours?

Rode the GT yesterday, Wow, what a machine. I think this is the route I may have to go. More power than I would ever need, but I am sure the Concours is the same in that department. I am not good about having the restraint needed when I have that much power on tap.
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So far, maintenance costs have been really cheap, compared to the LT. But soon I will be getting the 24K service done, and will be getting the Full Meal Deal. I will report back then what the cost was.
Joe, thanks for the rundown. That's really not a bad list at all, especially since the GT is so new. As you get some more experience with the suspension and maintenance costs, I'll be keeping an eye out. I'm really interested in the GT, but not sure I want to dump the LT right now.

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