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Concours 14 thread on advrider.com

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Had a few interesting events with the bike.

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I guess haveing the rear brake eat itself and dump brake fluid all over the rear tire is MUCH better than having a rear drive failure.

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I guess haveing the rear brake eat itself and dump brake fluid all over the rear tire is MUCH better than having a rear drive failure.
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Well I'll sure the F**K say something, then: Chicken shit tickets! WEAK! 10 over?! Crossing the double yellow in the middle of BFE with no traffic??!! WEAK!! I'd be embarrassed to write some piece of crap ticket like that!

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Goes to show you that even the rice burners can experience serious problems out of the gate.... First model year.. I don't think so..
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Goes to show you that even the rice burners can experience serious problems out of the gate.... First model year.. I don't think so..
Of course the difference is that with the japanese, the problems will actually be addressed, and not ignored as with a certain Bavarian brand.

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Of course the difference is that with the japanese, the problems will actually be addressed, and not ignored as with a certain Bavarian brand.
Warranty 3 years.....unlimited miles.
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Warranty 3 years.....unlimited miles.
And he made it home.
A guy from the Salt Lake area had his brand new Conny at the Paonia Rally last weekend. Included in the $13.8K price he got a three year extended warranty for a total of 6 years, unlimited mileage.

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And he made it home.
The warranty argument didn't seem to hold much water when I brought that up regarding my BMW's failure. Hhmmn...
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Of course the difference is that with the japanese, the problems will actually be addressed, and not ignored as with a certain Bavarian brand.

When I had them, my warranty items were addressed by my local dealer. Actually, both of my local dealers. Sounds like someone has been using the wrong dealer.
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The warranty argument didn't seem to hold much water when I brought that up regarding my BMW's failure. Hhmmn...

It would have if it had been relevant to the context of the discussion...

Recall...you ripped FJRs for breaking down.
It was then brought up that your GT had a major breakdown leaving you on the side of the road awaiting a tow.

Your juvenile-like response, in defense of your position (my GT breakdown does not make my bike a POS...while a FJR breakdown makes them all POSs) was (in the voice of a 5-yr old) --- yea but the tow truck was quick to arrive and it's under warranty---.

What the heck kind of logic is that???
Go back and check the thread to remind yourself of the facts.

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When I had them, my warranty items were addressed by my local dealer. Actually, both of my local dealers. Sounds like someone has been using the wrong dealer.
You got a choice?

Better yet, you got a dealer?!??!!

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The warranty argument didn't seem to hold much water when I brought that up regarding my BMW's failure. Hhmmn...
Right....that's because any failure on our kraut cycles is from FAILURE TO ANTICIPATE. In other words--it YOUR fault!
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.l...you ripped FJRs for breaking down.
It was then brought up that your GT had a major breakdown leaving you on the side of the road awaiting a tow.

Your juvenile-like response, in defense of your position (my GT breakdown does not make my bike a POS...while a FJR breakdown makes them all POS) was (in the voice of a 5-yr old) --- yea but the tow truck was quick to arrive and it's under warranty---.

What the heck kind of logic is that???
Go back and check the thread to remind yourself of the facts....
But now Joe has matured. He realises now that is was all HIS FAULT. He won't let the rear end break down again.

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Not trying to be a jerk...just keeping things true!
Nope. You flew right passed "jerk" and hit JACKASS right on the nose. Good show!
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Of course the difference is that with the japanese, the problems will actually be addressed, and not ignored as with a certain Bavarian brand.
When I had them, my warranty items were addressed by my local dealer. Actually, both of my local dealers. Sounds like someone has been using the wrong dealer.
Er, Kevin can correct me if I'm wrong. But, I believe he meant "addressed" as in redesigned in subsequent model years, instead of stubbornly asserting "our engineers can do no wrong" then grudgingly handling warranty claims.

Warranties are nice, but the fact remains: since the introduction of the paralever shaft drive (1986?) failures have been commonplace in a previously unproblematic component. In Japanese hands, that design would have gone through considerably more iterations on the market to become much more reliable.

It has a lot to do with the quality improvement ethos that W.E. Deming introduced in post-war Japan which gave them the cost/quality advantage in the world markets. The Germans are more mindful of the old "design it right the first time" ethic which works best for things like bridges and dams, but not so much for mass produced widgets. Products like motorcycles, TVs, ball-point pens, etc. are best optimized by focusing on a quality feedback loop, which Deming emphasized when teaching the Japanese.

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Naw...I've said all I'm going to say in this thread. In the morning, I 'm headed to the beach.

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Nope. You flew right passed "jerk" and hit JACKASS right on the nose. Good show!

When the truth returns to bite you...sink lower and resort to name calling.
Most would have defended themselves. I guess you could've tried to dispute my logic...but that would have been in vain.

As we say "that's just Joe".

...and all I'm doing is using YOUR words, and YOUR logic, to make my points.


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Er, Kevin can correct me if I'm wrong. But, I believe he meant "addressed" as in redesigned in subsequent model years, instead of stubbornly asserting "our engineers can do no wrong" then grudgingly handling warranty claims.
You got it!
You said it better than I could. I'm really interested in the new C14, but since I just bought the HD, I'll need to hold off for a little while... but not THAT long if the LT acts up again.

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Interesting read. He's not very good at sport touring IMO. Not eating or drinking for 11 hours and then later consuming a candy bar and mountain dew? what's up with that? Wrapping bicycle bar tape around the grips... that doesn't sound safe and a little cheesy on a brand new motorcycle. Get some gel grips... I used them on all my sportbikes so my hands wouldn't go numb.

I used to think the way he does a little. If I make another mod here and there I can get my sportbike to travel long distances. I've had overloaded racks, buzzy bars riding a 4 cylinder at 6000RPM at 80mph. Tolerating cold by layering up wiht 3 sweater and 2 pairs of gloves.


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I wish I had this bike 6 years ago when I started riding. All those 100+ mile weekend on a sportbike... what a torture rack!
I think you got a typo there - but if not, it'll soon by 1,000+ mile weekends

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Of course the difference is that with the japanese, the problems will actually be addressed, and not ignored as with a certain Bavarian brand.
yup

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When I had them, my warranty items were addressed by my local dealer. Actually, both of my local dealers. Sounds like someone has been using the wrong dealer.
I think he was getting to the point that the UJM is more likely to come out with a cure at the manufacuring level
than BMW.

Look at the final drive failures, they are still going on with 2007 model bikes, that is actually pretty darn sad.
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When the truth returns to bite you...sink lower and resort to name calling. Most would have defended themselves. I guess you could've tried to dispute my logic...but that would have been in vain. As we say "that's just Joe". All I'm doing is using YOUR words, and YOUR logic, to make my points.
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IMHO, his ride report is an excellent case study on how NOT to do a multiday ride. Poor guy could not even enjoy riding a new bike through some of the most beautiful scenery on some of the best riding roads in the country. Inadequate planning, unsafe packing, no pre-flight checks (he might have caught that rear brake heat problem before it became a total wipe out), poor nutrition practices (a couple of candy bars and a large dinner are an invitation for hypoglycemic episodes), incredibly poor hydration practices (a can of Mountain Dew after 11 hours, primarily for the caffeine; doubly crazy, as he already was dehydrated and now he's drinking a diuretic), etc., etc. I'm surprised that he did not have a serious heat related illness. I think I'll print out his report and re-read it as a reminder of what not to do before I go out on longer rides.

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He prolly missed the fubared rear brake because HE WAS in a daze from improper hydration/nutrition. I think I'd up and die if I rode like that. Of course, he may be young. I used to live on Lone Star beer and Jack Daniels for days when I was a pup.



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He prolly missed the fubared rear brake because HE WAS in a daze from improper hydration/nutrition. I think I'd up and die if I rode like that. Of course, he may be young. I used to live on Lone Star beer and Jack Daniels for days when I was a pup.
okok I understand living on Jack Daniels for days on ends

BUT LONE STAR BEER? how did you live this long?
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IMHO, his ride report is an excellent case study on how NOT to do a multiday ride. Poor guy could not even enjoy riding a new bike through some of the most beautiful scenery on some of the best riding roads in the country....
I don't think the purpose of his ride was to enjoy himself on some of the most scenic roads in the country. I think the purpose of his ride was to set records. He pulled it off! SO, his packing could not of been that bad--either could his nutrition habits. Now, I probably would of nutted up after about four hours following his drinking/eating habits. BUT, obviously, this guy has powers and abilities far beyond pee-ons like me!

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I was watching some Tour De France coverage this morning and noticed that the camera crews are using the new Concours. I thought it was a FJR until I saw the red on white Kawasaki name plasted on the windscreen. Normally they use 12RT's... and 11RT's before that. For camera crews it's the most confortable biek that can still negotiate the tight turns to keep up wiht the bicycles and still have good low speed handling characteristics. It looks bigger on TV than I thought. Very wide fairing.

With a good aftermarket windscreen, it might not be too bad on long trips. The pegs are still too high for my preference on a sport touring bike, now that I've ridden my RT. Funny how your tastes can change. 2 years ago when the ZX14 first came out, I thought I wanted one. But when I saw it in person, I was dissapointed. The fit and finish and appearance close up wasn't what I expected. I hope the Concours is better.

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I don't think the purpose of his ride was to enjoy himself on some of the most scenic roads in the country. I think the purpose of his ride was to set records. He pulled it off! SO, his packing could not of been that bad--either could his nutrition habits. Now, I probably would of nutted up after about four hours following his drinking/eating habits. BUT, obviously, this guy has powers and abilities far beyond pee-ons like me!
Hi, Jay. I think you might be mixing up this guy (goes by the name "scooter-scum" on the ADV forum, reported on a ride of 3100 miles in 5 days) with Warchild (reported on 7 consecutive 24 hour periods of 1500 miles or more). There is nothing that I would criticize with Warchild, simply because what he is doing is outside my ability, experience, and understanding. IMHO, his feat is the equivalent of climbing Everest without supplimental oxygen. It would be very interesting to hear about how he handled nutition, packing, hydration, etc.

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Interesting read. He's not very good at sport touring IMO.
I'm with you and Bill on this one. As I read along, I just kept seeing all the things he did wrong.

"I think 925 miles on a bike hurt no matter what your are riding."

Well yes, if you're hunched over, fighting the wind, hungry, dehydrated, and that far out if it, it's gonna hurt. But then again we were all young once, and each of us has made our own mistakes and lived through them. I remember wearing 4 shirts and 3 pairs of pants on the bike in an effort to stay warm . . .

Oh well, it was an interesting read.

And yes, Warchild's report is a textbook example of how to do it right, if you're crazy enough to attempt something so far outside the box.

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Hi, Jay. I think you might be mixing up this guy (goes by the name "scooter-scum" on the ADV forum, reported on a ride of 3100 miles in 5 days) with Warchild (reported on 7 consecutive 24 hour periods of 1500 miles or more). There is nothing that I would criticize with Warchild, simply because what he is doing is outside my ability, experience, and understanding. IMHO, his feat is the equivalent of climbing Everest without supplimental oxygen. It would be very interesting to hear about how he handled nutition, packing, hydration, etc.
Hey Bill! I was trying to respond to negative comments about Warchild's unorthodox nutrition and hydration routines. Obviously, they worked for him! That's really all that matters. When the chatter boxes match his feat, then I will listen to their nutrition and hydration routines! But, if I screwed it up, then I was merely maintaining form! LOL.

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It would have if it had been relevant to the context of the discussion...

Recall...you ripped FJRs for breaking down.
It was then brought up that your GT had a major breakdown leaving you on the side of the road awaiting a tow.

Your juvenile-like response, in defense of your position (my GT breakdown does not make my bike a POS...while a FJR breakdown makes them all POSs) was (in the voice of a 5-yr old) --- yea but the tow truck was quick to arrive and it's under warranty---.

What the heck kind of logic is that???
Go back and check the thread to remind yourself of the facts.

Not trying to be a jerk...just keeping things true!

Lemme Try Again....

Apparently you do not like it when the BMW takes care of their own????
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When the truth returns to bite you...sink lower and resort to name calling.
Most would have defended themselves. I guess you could've tried to dispute my logic...but that would have been in vain.

As we say "that's just Joe".

...and all I'm doing is using YOUR words, and YOUR logic, to make my points.

The more I read of yours the sadder you become.


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Lemme Try Again....

Apparently you do not like it when the BMW takes care of their own????
Especially if the benefactor has a 13 in his name.....for this you are a donkey.


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Thank you for:

1) Ignoring the facts.
2) Obviously NOT going back to read the thread referred to.
3) Practicing use of horrible reasoning and logic.
4) Jumping right down in the mud w/ Joe by resorting to name calling...actually I'd rather be an elephant.

...And all this I get for merely reminding people what was really said...THAT IS what is SAD!

Let me get this straight...
You conclude I don't want BMW taking care of me (or Joe for that matter) if I breakdown..because I called your friend on his twisted logic that stated his GT doesn't suck like FJRs that break down (as he claimed) because he gotta a quick tow. What the heck!?!?!?! Of course I'm all for BMW taking care of their own...what an ignorant line of reasoning.

I understanding coming to your friend's defense...I applaud that. But go back and see if anything I've written has been anything but the record as stated here in posts. Plus I've never once been mean-spirited or vindictive. And I've not once stooped to personal attacks or name calling. I don't think your Joe needs any defending.

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Thank you for:

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2) Obviously NOT going back to read the thread referred to.
3) Practicing use of horrible reasoning and logic.
4) Jumping right down in the mud w/ Joe by resorting to name calling...actually I'd rather be an elephant.

...And all this I get for merely reminding people what was really said...THAT IS what is SAD!

Let me get this straight...
You conclude I don't want BMW taking care of me (or Joe for that matter) if I breakdown..because I called your friend on his twisted logic that stated his GT doesn't suck like FJRs that break down (as he claimed) because he gotta a quick tow. What the heck!?!?!?! Of course I'm all for BMW taking care of their own...what an ignorant line of reasoning.

I understanding coming to your friend's defense...I applaud that. But go back and see if anything I've written has been anything but the record as stated here in posts. Plus I've never once been mean-spirited or vindictive. And I've not once stooped to personal attacks or name calling. I don't think your Joe needs any defending.

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Heck Jay...I think I'll join ya.

The funny thing is, I can't help but wonder how many people would actually miss TBird if he went away for a month. I'm guessin . . . umm . . . ZERO. And the longer I read his stuff, the more I'm thinking he actually is one of my biggest fans. In fact, I think he has a man-crush on me. And for this, I am truly flattered. And who could blame him?! After all, I am a hunk of burnin' love.

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Heck Jay...I think I'll join ya.

The funny thing is, I can't help but wonder how many people would actually miss TBird if he went away for a month. I'm guessin . . . umm . . . ZERO. And the longer I read his stuff, the more I'm thinking he actually is one of my biggest fans. In fact, I think he has a man-crush on me. And for this, I am truly flattered. And who could blame him?! After all, I am a hunk of burnin' love.

Hug and Kisses Tommy. Sorry I didn't swing on in and see ya when I was in NM. We coulda had a blast!
Does one little man crush make you gay?!

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I just can't wait to read all the funny replies that are going to pour forth here when the inevitable love fest from the moto journalists begins and they name the C14 bike of the year and it wins all kinds of shoot outs with the GT and FJR.

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Heck Jay...I think I'll join ya.

The funny thing is, I can't help but wonder how many people would actually miss TBird if he went away for a month. I'm guessin . . . umm . . . ZERO. And the longer I read his stuff, the more I'm thinking he actually is one of my biggest fans. In fact, I think he has a man-crush on me. And for this, I am truly flattered. And who could blame him?! After all, I am a hunk of burnin' love.

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Going to be a hoot!
I suspect the C14 will win the shootout, followed by the FJR, then the GT. The big gig on the GT has always been the price.


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Thank you for:

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3) Practicing use of horrible reasoning and logic.
4) Jumping right down in the mud w/ Joe by resorting to name calling...actually I'd rather be an elephant.

...And all this I get for merely reminding people what was really said...THAT IS what is SAD!

Let me get this straight...
You conclude I don't want BMW taking care of me (or Joe for that matter) if I breakdown..because I called your friend on his twisted logic that stated his GT doesn't suck like FJRs that break down (as he claimed) because he gotta a quick tow. What the heck!?!?!?! Of course I'm all for BMW taking care of their own...what an ignorant line of reasoning.

I understanding coming to your friend's defense...I applaud that. But go back and see if anything I've written has been anything but the record as stated here in posts. Plus I've never once been mean-spirited or vindictive. And I've not once stooped to personal attacks or name calling. I don't think your Joe needs any defending.

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It seems you have now..don't it make ya feel better??

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I suspect the C14 will win the shootout, followed by the FJR, then the GT.
Of course it'll win. It's the latest, greatest, fastest, etc., and the moto mags know where their advertising dollars come from.

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WTF?! I was wondering why the Grifmiester kept getting cuter?....
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Popcorn makes me gay???? Then pass the Brokeback Joe (he IS a hunka' hunka' burnin love!!!)......
Well that settles it: kisses all the way around!

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Heck Jay...I think I'll join ya.

The funny thing is, I can't help but wonder how many people would actually miss TBird if he went away for a month. I'm guessin . . . umm . . . ZERO. And the longer I read his stuff, the more I'm thinking he actually is one of my biggest fans. In fact, I think he has a man-crush on me. And for this, I am truly flattered. And who could blame him?! After all, I am a hunk of burnin' love.

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