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Would any of you buy one of these?

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Not sure I would ... but after reading the article on "Gears and Grace" in this months ON, I wonder if this might have helped? Not a great deal of detail in the article, but assume there was some neck / spine trauma from Meredith's injuries????

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Here's one from a different manufacturer.

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Nope. Wife said one dummy in the house is enough.

Oh, you're talking about the Neck Brace System, not the model!

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post #5 of 16 Old Jun 17th, 2007, 3:29 pm
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Leatt neck brace

The BMW brace is actually a Leatt brace, I was part of a team that investigated a fatal off-road m/c collision due to neck injury, asked pathologist to check out the specs on the Leatt website, he advised it wouldn't have helped in thiat specific case but could assist in certain collisions. I would say it is more off-road oriented. I can't picture too many street riders wearing it.
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The BMW brace is actually a Leatt brace, I was part of a team that investigated a fatal off-road m/c collision due to neck injury, asked pathologist to check out the specs on the Leatt website, he advised it wouldn't have helped in thiat specific case but could assist in certain collisions. I would say it is more off-road oriented. I can't picture too many street riders wearing it.
Looks like the BMW version is twice as high when you look at the European prices for the two. If my memory serves me, the Leatt brace is named after a Dr. that developed the brace and he was the first one to develop a product to minimize the possibility of neck injuries. I also think they were all custom made for the rider when Leatt first started, but they evidently don't do that anymore.
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I watched several days of the Dakar race on TV and it looked like several of the bike riders used this device or similar to this. When I drove a sprint car I wore a strap that hooked half way up the side of my helmet and went under my arm pit to hold my head in position in case of a crash and I would be knocked out and not able to hold my head from flopping around, also wore a thick neck collar consisting a thick firm foam encased in nomex material. Wearing a full face helmet adds weight and if you could see your head flop around in an accident you would be shocked at how far it moves. My head was several inches away from the roll cage but I had roll cage marks in the paint of my helmet after a flip, after that I added padding to the roll cage in the head area. when just sitting in the car with all seat belts, shoulder straps and crotch belt hooked up there was no way I could move my head far enough to hit the roll cage but in a crash I sure did.
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Maybe. Need more info and would like to try it on first.

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Re: Would any of you buy one of these?

Yesterday I visited a friend that had an m/c accident and is now in the hospital. He was wearing a helmet, landed on his head "stretching" his spine. The accident caused extreme forward and lateral motion of his neck. He is now paralyzed with limited motion in some extremities. This device MAY have helped limit his injuries.

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Re: Would any of you buy one of these?

This has been the subject of a lot of debate in the off-road community about whether or not it helps or simply moves the point of injury. For example, when you restrict the movement of each vertabrae and concentrate the movement to the one just below the brace, that vertabrae is going to move more than it should, causing a more severe injury to the spine and spinal cord.

The few guys I have seen crash in the dirt while wearing the Leatt have all ended up with broken collar bones. Not to say that I wouldn't take a broken collarbone over a spine/neck injury, but the crashes didn't seem to be anything that one would break a collarbone or have a neck injury from.

I bought the Adventure Brace for dirt riding, but it wouldn't fit with my pressure suit, so I returned it. I'll keep looking for one that will fit with my current gear, or when I replace it, go with the Alpinestars pressure suit and neck brace combo.

I know Leatt makes a brace for street use but I have yet to see anyone wearing one here in So Cal.

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Re: Would any of you buy one of these?

My wife bought me one last year after I said that commuting to work each day on my bike was more dangerous than my tour in Helmand.

Anyway I use it everyday for my 55 mile commute, and I think it would work if called to. However it does limit the head movements so "life savers" etc need a bit more effort but I think is it much like a crash helmet - It works but has a price to be paid in terms of freedom of movement. I do not intend to test it but you never know!!
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Personally I'd rather take the 300 bucks and invest in a really good ultra lightweight helmet. I think that would be money better spent.

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Re: Would any of you buy one of these?

If it limits my ability to look around to see "what's happening" then it appears to be a contributing factor in one's having an accident. Therefore, IMHO, it's a "wash" and I say, "No thanks!"

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Re: Would any of you buy one of these?

There really isn't anything new about these things,
the riders in some of the asian countries have been using them for years.
here's proof.
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Re: Would any of you buy one of these?

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There really isn't anything new about these things,
the riders in some of the asian countries have been using them for years.
here's proof.
WTF, Hans?! I was gonna say that race car drivers FINALLY got a similar neck-restraint system--which ALLEGEDLY--has greatly reduced serious injuries and deaths. But after seeing your girl--never mind--dying ain't so bad!

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Re: Would any of you buy one of these?

LEATT Brace Review:

My friend loaned me his LEATT for a 250 mile ride. I found it NOT to restrict my movement when taking a second look prior to changing lanes. But I've had a previous neck injury and the neck doesn't turn like it used to anyway. So I'll reserve judgement until I can ride a 600-700 day. So it's all about your comfort and safety level.

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